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It is like this. Let’s say the girl did not take the pill behind your back. There are actually many feminists that believe that it is their body and they can do whatever they want with it without even her boyfriend’s or even husbands consent. There are two sorts of thoughts, pro choice and pro life. A lot of females choose the pro choice, meaning that they can choose if they wish to have an abortion or not, even when it is the guy’s sperm. A lot of conservatives that have more guys than girls are pro life, meaning that they wish to not have an abortion at all. Now my question is, why is it the girl that is suppose to have 100% choice in choosing if she could even have an abortion or not since she thinks that it is her body and she could do whatever she want with it. The guy should also have some say since there are a lot of guys who have to have the responsibility in actually financing the child. What do you guys think?
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"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
The guy should also have some say since there are a lot of guys who have to have the responsibility in actually financing the child.
That is precisely one of the paradoxes which is at the heart of MGTOW. Men have no say over the fate of their offspring, either before or after birth. However they have the responsibility to pay for those offspring.
I don’t want to get into a pro life or pro choice debate; far too much religion in that one. I would say though that all people have sovereignty over their own body.
The question is whether the fetus a woman carries is part of her own body or not? Clearly it is not a part of her own body in the same way as her liver or lungs or heart ( assuming she has one of those ) But is the fetus another human? Does it even matter?
I would argue that a fetus, no matter at what stage of development, is never actually a part of the woman who is carrying it and is therefore not covered by a woman sovereignty over her own body.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
The law must get changed that if she wants it and the dad doesn’t, she forgoes any child support. She doesn’t and the dad does, she hands it to the dad straight after birth.
Vasectomy is a must for single guys who don’t want kids.
I say
Either have safe sex or no sex at all.
That includes protection from your side.
As harsh as it seems I stand in my point firmly."We are free to follow our own path. There are those who will take that freedom from us, and too many of you gladly give it. But it is our ability to choose – whatever you think is true – that makes us human. There is no book or teacher to give you the answers, to show you the path. Choose your own way! Do not follow me, or anyone else."
Vasectomy is a must for single guys who don’t want kids.
Vasectomy is a good one, its not 100% effective though. 1 in 2000 men with a vasectomy will go on to get a woman pregnant in his lifetime. They also do f~~~ all to prevent STDs, so best stick to a condom even if you know you are shooting blanks.
“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”
A lot of people have given this a lot of thought and paper abortion seems to be the solution to this problem. As stated above, if the man doesn’t want the child he can sign a contract that says that he is not involved with paying to support for the child and in which he gives up all parental rights to the child.
If a woman doesn’t want the child for any reason, such as she can’t pay for it, as the law is now, she is free to do with her body and her child what she wants to do. It’s her body her choice.
As a man who raised a child as a single guy from 9 months old I can say from experience don’t have children. Children belong to women in our society. One of the biggest things that our females are concerned about about Sharia is something they never talk about. In Sharia law by age 7 male children are sole custody of their fathers.
Women hate Sharia mainly because they lose traction on their custody scam.
btw: I had my vasectomy and I wear condoms.
Some STD’s are like relationship commitments used to be, for life.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
The law must get changed that if she wants it and the dad doesn’t, she forgoes any child support
The problem is that women dont know what they want. Lets just say most of them do want the child they feeelz they want,10/10 they will not be able to afford the kid and the next thing you know you have commercials with single moms with starving kids with flies on their eyes playing piano music asking to donate 1 dollar a day to help her/*this* this poooor child. Men have to run society at all cost!
Never lose sight of what brought you here.
Instead of some poor schlub paying for her decision to have a child she may go on welfare.
If she goes on welfare her “child support” comes from the public coffers. Now that women work they can share the burden of taking care of these breeding parasites. Maybe then women would be talking to their kind about keeping their legs closed or getting a job before you get your welfare.
btw: We will never have starvation in the streets. We grow more food than other countries and actually throw away a lot of good food. We don’t eat it unless is looks perfect. A lot of the most poor are the most obese.
So, with public assistance and housing assistance no one, especially not a welfare mom, need work at all.
As long as women have to share paying for breeding deadbeats we may see a change in these deadbeats behavior.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Anonymous42Feminists can do whatever they want! So can I! Like avoiding their misery trap and enjoying my MGTOW life!
No ropes, chains, or otherwise governmental overreach controlling me like a drone! We’re nothing but disposable drones at the behest of a woman wanting to return to the c~~~ carousel, and with a man’s children in tow, and handing the man the f~~~ing bill! NO THANKS! F~~~ THAT!
They can do whatever they want! My only suggestion to them; ladies <VOMIT> you’re free to f~~~ off and die….I think there is no good answer to the issues of birth/abortion, financial responsibility, and custody after conception. It’s best to answer those questions before conception.
Give men and women the ability to officially state their stance on these issues, and have it be legally binding. For example, a man could state he wants no financial responsibility or custody of children. Mom can’t then force him to take responsibility. Don’t like that? Don’t f~~~ him. The same man can not get custody after conception without the woman’s consent. A woman could state she will get an abortion. Don’t like that? Don’t f~~~ her. That same woman could not then decide she wants to keep the child after conception without the Dad’s consent. There would be lots of combinations, but a man could not claim ‘no financial responsibility’ and ‘custody rights’ for example. Alternatively a woman could not claim ‘no abortion’ and ‘no financial responsibility or custody’.
Each person could have a legal doc of some sort that states their position, that they could present to potential partners. If the partner doesn’t have it or doesn’t show, screw at your own risk. If you screw someone you know isn’t a good fit for you, you have to live with the results.
Also, if it’s digitized in some way, the exchange of these legal statements could be legally considered consent, helping to prevent false rape allegations.
Ok. Then do it.
When I saw the topic, I thought that anyone can do whatever they want to their bodies, until I read the first post and it was on abortion. So my opinion changed. I feel that if a child is being planned or is coming due to an innocent mistake, and if the would-be parents don’t want the child anymore, they should consider an adoption agency. However, if a pregnancy is caused by either: forced, rape, incest, or if the pregnancy becomes a health hazard to the mother, then I do support a woman to do whatever she feels is best for her. If a woman is getting pregnant just for the sake of not working and living off the guy or the government, then that’s just plain wrong and the woman should have NO place in making a choice like that.
Look at the octomom in California. She had 8 kids at once (14 total) and she has to live off the government, but doesn’t even go to work to help ease the suffering. And last I heard, she wants even more kids.
Seriously, why would anyone want 14 kids, let alone 1, especially after dealing with other people’s kids in restaurants and stores; screaming up the place? Just like Tuesday when I had to go to the doctor’s office and there was this 2 year old girl screaming and crying up the lobby; I just wanted to hit that little brat, and the dad, all he did was handed her his $600 iPhone to shut her up. Funny thing is the baby made a call. Seriously, who gives their screaming baby an expensive iPhone to play with, when the baby probably would of thrown it down?
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@ResidentEvil, I think you are correct that if both parents agree that they do not want the child and do not want an abortion, then adoption is the way to go. It’s just that it’s going to be rare for those 3 conditions to be met. It’s the cases where parents don’t agree, then there will be problems.
Ok. Then do it.
That is precisely one of the paradoxes which is at the heart of MGTOW. Men have no say over the fate of their offspring, either before or after birth. However they have the responsibility to pay for those offspring.
That’s not a paradox. That just typical female selfish hypocrisy. They want all the rights and want men to have all the responsibilities. And they call that “equality”.
I say that if a woman can do whatever she wants with her body, then a man should be able to do whatever he wants with his money, and that includes NOT paying for any child he did not choose to create. And no, he did not make that choice when he had sex any more than she did. If she has the right to duck out of any responsibility for a child, then so should he. That’s the true meaning of equality.
Vasectomy is a good one, its not 100% effective though. 1 in 2000 men with a vasectomy will go on to get a woman pregnant in his lifetime.
That’s an issue with married men, where there’s a false presumption of paternity. For single men, the paperwork that comes with the vasectomy is more important than the vasectomy itself. When she tries to drop an: “Oops! I’m pregnant!” on you, you drop a stack of legally certified documents proving you’re sterile on her. Suddenly the burden of proof is on her to show she’s not a cheating slut, and there’s no way she’s going to do that, because now it’s not her word against yours but her word against that of multiple qualified and unimpeachable medical professionals.
They also do f~~~ all to prevent STDs, so best stick to a condom even if you know you are shooting blanks.
You should wear a condom anyways so she doesn’t even get the hint you’re fixed. If she knows there’s no chance of pulling an Oops! pregnancy on you to get at your assets, she’ll move on to more lucrative pastures. Let her find out after she tries to spring her trap. The look on her face will be worth it.
Also put a little hot sauce in the condom before putting it in the bathroom trash.
They want all the rights and want men to have all the responsibilities. And they call that “equality”.
Agree with sidecar.
It’s best to just keep your dick in your pants.
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Anonymous42They want all the rights and want men to have all the responsibilities. And they call that “equality”.
Agree with sidecar.
They “have” all the rights and men “are” stuck with “all” the responsibility, and “THAT” they call “EQUALITY”…
I don’t give a s~~~ what they do with all that fat .. guts .. and bones.
One day all those decisions will belong to the wall and cats.
Until then … my dick stays away unless I go pay.
We’ve discussed these things many times – it goes to the heart of MGTOW, as someone said – but this thread is great, it really nails a couple of things.
A woman can choose to abort, the man has no say.
A woman can choose to have a kid, the man has no say (but pays for 18 years)
A woman (in some jurisdictions) can choose not to put the father’s name on the birth certificate, then adopt or not adopt as she sees fit, and the man has no say.
In every case, the woman’s choice will have a life-long effect on the man, and he has no say in it.
Equality? Justice? Fairness? Don’t make me vomit.
Brother, the game is so rigged, best not to even play. The world is on women’s side. There’s all this
“My body! My Choice!”Okay, yeah. Then how about…
“My money! My choice!”
Because everyone seems to forget what happens after the child is born. They still need A LOT of money to pay for everything. She can decide if she wants it, that’s great. LET ME DECIDE IF I’M GOING TO PAY FOR IT!
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
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