The real reason for feminism

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

That which is asserted without evidence may be dismissed without evidence.

xdccr wrote:

After lurking for a while, I felt compelled to make a thread (first post too) on something I’ve noticed in this movement. First I should say that I’m a MGHOW in regards to women due to how past relationships have gone. Much insight into the reason behind their behaviour these days is found here. What I haven’t found here is the history behind feminism (how major players in the 50s-70s were CIA agents pushing a movement to conquer the family unit and were just the first part of a plan for the destruction of it). From previous research I’ve done, I know this to be the truth. Why haven’t I seen this discussed here? Is it to appeal to people who might think that too conspiratorial in nature? I get the whole dropping out and going your own way thing, but there’s a war on both men and women designed to weaken the entire population to make them more easily managed by the powers that rule us. Feminists don’t control the universities. Feminism is something pushed by the universities as part of a larger agenda set by the establishment. Thoughts?

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Soul Man wrote:

What else would explain the insanity of all this politically correct bulls~~~ and oppressive legislation in the “Land of the Free”.

Short sighted greed and stupidity.  You don’t need the CIA behind things when a whole bunch of greedy women all shouting “GIMME GIMME GIMME” has the same end result.  Now I’m not saying there aren’t groups benefiting from this.  I’m just saying they likely didn’t plan it.  Mostly because they didn’t need to.

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

AFT wrote:

I find that MGTOW is the best way for me to unplug while I get my s~~~ together, reassess the environment, and formulate a plan to move forward. Forget about overthrowing the pharaoh, humanity has always been enslaved, its about making the most of the situation. Adapting, sort of like recreating yourself to evolve in order to take advantage of the environment. If not feminism, then communism, or another f~~~enism, we need to adapt constantly.

I think I could adapt to “f~~~enism” pretty easily as long as I’m not the f~~~ee!  LULZ!

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

sidecar wrote:

Soul Man wrote:

What else would explain the insanity of all this politically correct bulls~~~ and oppressive legislation in the “Land of the Free”.

Short sighted greed and stupidity. You don’t need the CIA behind things when a whole bunch of greedy women all shouting “GIMME GIMME GIMME” has the same end result. Now I’m not saying there aren’t groups benefiting from this. I’m just saying they likely didn’t plan it. Mostly because they didn’t need to.

True…I don’t know that it would take the CIA to push this type of agenda.  IF…and that’s a big IF…if they had any type of role in this s~~~ then they were just paid foot soldiers in this shenanigan.  As an aside, the CIA does have a rather “interesting” and murky history since it was established in 1947.

Despite feminism’s big push for “equality”, ultimately it is still MEN with GREAT BIG ENORMOUS bank accounts at the top of the heap that call the shots and make the policies, both foreign and domestic.  That’s laughable in the face of these stupid feminists.

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

If wo-men were tricked to feminism then their stupid ….. I want nothing to do with them.

If they invented it all by themselves then they’re evil …. I want nothing to do with them.

If they can see what’s going on and do nothing they’re complicit …. I want nothing to do with them.

So I guess …. well …. I’m out of this madness and I just don’t care what happens.

At the end of it all, men will survive because when nature does ‘his’ thing …… best you girls get your pussy ready as a pleading tool.

Without us wo-men are truly f~~~ed.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

@ xdccr

Is it possible that in the middle of the feminist revolution, one hundred years after the official start of organized feminism at Seneca Falls (ever heard of it, the CIA? I will not provide a link as you did not. Look it up.

You won’t, too busy rehashing anti-feminist topes from the 1970’s so here it is:

The Seneca Falls Convention was the first women’s rights convention.[1] It advertised itself as “a convention to discuss the social, civil, and religious condition and rights of woman”.[2] Held in Seneca Falls, New York, it spanned two days over July 19–20, 1848. Attracting widespread attention, it was soon followed by other women’s rights conventions, including one in Rochester, New York two weeks later. In 1850 the first in a series of annual National Women’s Rights Conventions met in Worcester, Massachusetts.

Female Quakers local to the area organized the meeting along with Elizabeth Cady Stanton, who was not a Quaker. They planned the event during a visit to the area by Philadelphia-based Lucretia Mott. Mott, a Quaker, was famous for her oratorical ability, which was rare during an era which women were often not allowed to speak in public

The convention was seen by some of its contemporaries, including featured speaker Mott, as one important step among many others in the continuing effort by women to gain for themselves a greater proportion of social, civil and moral rights,[3] while it was viewed by others as a revolutionary beginning to the struggle by women for complete equality with men. Stanton considered the Seneca Falls Convention to be the beginning of the women’s rights movement, an opinion that was echoed in the History of Woman Suffrage, which Stanton co-wrote.[3]

The convention’s Declaration of Sentiments became “the single most important factor in spreading news of the women’s rights movement around the country in 1848 and into the future”, according to Judith Wellman, a historian of the convention.[4] By the time of the National Women’s Rights Convention of 1851, the issue of women’s right to vote had become a central tenet of the United States women’s rights movement.[5] These conventions became annual events until the outbreak of the American Civil War in 1861.

And that’s from the staunch pro-feminist wikipedia. But it required a few minutes of work before I could begin posting actual facts.

The CIA wasn’t invented until the 1940’s in response to the WW I and WW II:

HomeKids’ Zone6-12th GradeOperation HistoryHistory of the CIA

History of the CIA

In 1941…Foreign intelligence has been important to the United States since the days of George Washington, but it’s only been since World War II that such efforts have been coordinated on a government-wide level. Even before Pearl Harbor, President Franklin D. Roosevelt was concerned about America’s deficient intelligence efforts. He was particularly concerned about the need for the State Department and War Department to cooperate better and adopt a more strategic view of operations. With that goal in mind, Roosevelt asked New York attorney and World War I hero William J. Donovan to draft a plan for a new intelligence service.

Maybe it was the OSS, wait that wasn’t invented until

Prior to the formation of the OSS, American intelligence had been conducted on an ad-hoc basis by the various departments of the executive branch, including the State, Treasury, Navy, and War Departments. It had no overall direction, coordination, or control. The US Army and US Navy had separate code-breaking departments: Signals Intelligence Service and OP-20-G. (A previous code-breaking operation of the State Department, MI-8, run by Herbert Yardley, had been shut down in 1929 by Secretary of State Henry Stimson, deeming it an inappropriate function for the diplomatic arm, because “gentlemen don’t read each other’s mail”.[4]) The FBI was responsible for domestic security and anti-espionage operations.

But we don’t need no stinkin facts. We are like feminists, it’s all due to the CIA. Women rejecting men because men can’t or won’t give them money anymore is not the reason for the 40% single mother rate. You know, an actual thing that is a big problem…and something I also don’t care about because I can’t change things and it doesn’t matter how we got here. We will never know the whole story.

But the facts are clear. Women want feminism. CIA or not. It benefits them and that’s why they want it. They didn’t need the CIA, DEA, MVD, or U.N. to spread this hate. That’s how all democratic politics work. They call it “tyranny of the majority”.

Women are the majority and vote as a bloc in the last few elections (notably after feminists gained PC control of campus and introduced majority rules classes also know as “women’s studies”. Is it any wonder they will not even allow men to speak any more? They vote in the sheriff, the prosecutor, the judge.

Is this a conspiracy? No, it’s just a fact. A fact not lost on the women in Seneca Falls if you read some history.

The phrase “tyranny of the majority” (or “tyranny of the masses”), used in discussing systems of democracy and majority rule, involves the scenario in which decisions made by a majority place its interests above those of an individual or minority group, constituting active oppression comparable to that of tyrants and despots.[1] In many cases a disliked ethnic, religious or racial group is deliberately penalized by the majority element acting through the democratic process.[citation needed]

So what can I do about it? Nothing. Not a damn thing. So, I’m MGTOW.

Is my answer more understandable to you now?

It was kinda deep and as with most thought worth thinking is very brief and simple.

Here’s your long form answer. Now please address my “brief” post element by element so I can see your “reading” my post.

I’m ready.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Your right, I didn’t read your brief 2 paragraph post…sure.

My point is that it doesn’t matter how we got here.

But I’m ready for some serious discussion about how the CIA, invented in 1941, infiltrated feminism at inauguration of modern feminism at Seneca Falls 168 years ago. All of the tenents of feminism we deal with today was already the cause of most women in the US 168 years ago.

Want to learn what started feminism, go back to that.

That the CIA is trying to destabilizing the nation when they can’t even protect us from low level terrorists is laughable.

Despite our mangina instincts it is woman and woman only that is to blame for feminism. I suppose we need to find a man to blame it on, even here.

IMO, the truth is that what we are seeing is tyranny of the majority.

Women are 51% of voters and voted as a bloc, 70% democratic.

The phrase “tyranny of the majority” (or “tyranny of the masses”), used in discussing systems of democracy and majority rule, involves the scenario in which decisions made by a majority place its interests above those of an individual or minority group, constituting active oppression comparable to that of tyrants and despots.[1] In many cases a disliked ethnic, religious or racial group is deliberately penalized by the majority element acting through the democratic process.[citation needed]

What can men do? Nothing, the other side has a militarized our police force and has increased the prison population by 800% since the 1980’s, almost all men.

So, I’m MGTOW because I can’t change what I can’t change and, at this point I don’t give a s~~~ how we got here. For my son, I care where we are going.

But I’m ready for more open minded discussion here.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

Oh s~~~, double post…I tried to edit it and couldn’t find it. Sorry guys.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

Let me get this right. You believe that a group of people that run the most powerful organization in the entire world are trying to destroy it. Because that’s what “social benefit” programs do. Considering 49% of the population is on some source of government assistance I would say it is not a very good plan. You believe the whole cause of this is to create more freeing parking spaces at the grocery store?

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[RoyDalParticipant]

KGB Agent Interview: Feminists Are Useful Idiots, And Doomed.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

In 1918, The Russian revolution was in its prime when Vladimir Lenin decided to boost his support by applying women’s rights (Feminism) in doing so the Soviet Union was the first country to legalize divorce, abortion and other “rights” for women, also in acted a slut society. This is how the story of feminism is the sister of communism. In 1940s, the nazis  used the feminists and help concur their agenda, with science, engineering, and military. This is how feminism became the well know term feminazis. In the 1960s, the C.I.A. rebooted feminism for two specific reasons:

First, to destabilize society. (They succeeded)

Second, to tax women (I wonder how they like the equality, now, lol.)

 

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

@roydal

Very Nice

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[AFTParticipant 2722]

This video is in MGTOW archives:

/video/feminism-was-created-to-destabilize-society/

The description on Youtube: Hollywood producer, filmmaker, activist and truth seeker Aaron Russo reveals some of the REAL reasons for feminism which was funded and pushed by the Rockefellers and the CIA for very nefarious reasons, which includes being part of their central banking worldwide takeover to help set up the New World Order.

It also has a link to another video at the end of the comments:

Gloria Steinem Discussing Her Time in the CIA.

I can’t prove any of this, but it fits well into the reality we see everyday. What would be the purpose of destabilizing society? Who stands to gain the most? F~~~ that red pill, its the most liberating but at the same time depressing and frustrating revelation I’ve experienced.

sidecar wrote:

@Soul Man: I tend to think that even if the conspiracy theories are true, MGTOW is an unintended consequence rather than an intended result. Otherwise there wouldn’t be all the shaming attempts coming from all sides.

MGTOW is a reaction to all this, was it foreseen? I’d guess that some kind of reaction was probably foreseen, what if analysis undertaken, and a MGTOW scenario possibly discussed.  But I’d highly doubt they’d go to any effort to promote MGTOW in order to try to control it, MGTOW really f~~~s with anyone’s plans to control and manipulate.  I can’t see any other way of living more free than simply GMOW.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[xdccrParticipant 19]

There are a lot of things to address here after being away for almost 24 hours, so answers to questions for me and points I’d like to bring up, and points that address other ideas proposed, are below. Part of the reason I’m not quoting individual replies is because the damn quote button isn’t doing its job, another is there would be double replies everywhere.

Is it really so ridiculous to propose that an agency with a huge (almost unlimited) black budget wouldn’t or couldn’t pay agents and promote them in the already controlled media to push feminism? The media has a much larger influence on the population than one might think. Basically, anyone who believes what they’re consuming is just entertainment or fair reporting of news is most susceptible to the manipulation. Sadly, that’s the majority. It’s no coincidence that fathers are almost without fail portrayed as idiots whether they be in commercials or programs.

Soul man, your post about the bigger agenda is along my lines of thinking.

“****”, it’s not a rumour the CIA are involved. Check the infowars link provided by AFT. Other info by can be found on Gloria Steinem. If that isn’t proof enough of social engineering I don’t know what is.

To the pictures of tinfoil hats etc. that’s just inflammatory and unnecessary.

We will never know all the details of who was behind how much of feminism, what happened naturally, how much of it was a natural response to manipulation, how each response was responded to by each entity involved (and for which desired results), but the outlets for the propaganda and laws which manipulate people with are known.

H.R. Pufnstuf, some of what you want me to address is above, some of what you said was arguing things I never said.

Yes, feminism existed before the CIA. That’s irrelevant in their role in it after being established. Also, my choosing CIA was just the most obvious influence most easily looked up and verified. It was not meant to be every party involved (think tanks, other intelligence agencies).

Yes, women want feminism because it benefits them. They did need the laws changed and perspectives of men changed for this climate which benefits them to come into existence. For reeducation and lawmaking (and lack of new laws), the government and intelligence agencies would certainly be involved.

It is very important to learn how we got here, it’s history. Don’t want to repeat it do we?

What you have to realise is that not all men are on the same ‘team’ and have the best interests of other men at heart. There are people who consider us peeons, and they’re in control (in the position to p~~~ on us). Posting some idiot with microchips glued to his head and a wacky antenna after saying you’re ready for open minded discussion really makes me believe you.

Durden, multiple fallacies in your short paragraph written with only the intention of p~~~ing me off.

I get that there isnt really a way to convince some people of a conspiracy, no matter how hard you try. The word conspiracy, and also conspiracy theorist were demonized in the past. Conspiracy theorist was chosen to be used as a blanket attack on anyone who questions authority or official stories to quash dissenting speech of those in power. Think about it, just for a minute if you havent before. Why is conspiracy theorist (akin to truth seeker) such a bad label…

[Anonymous 5]

Again, nobody here gives a f~~~ about the possibilities of the ins and outs of the feminist movement.
Seriously, what’s your point?
Do you want us to make placards and hold them up in front of some feminist headquarters?
Do you want us to join the organization that you’re from? (Some type of MRA)
Do you want us to stop being silly MGTOWs, find a nice girl, settle down and live happily ever after?

We’re MGTOW, we don’t have to negotiate, we’ve already won.

[xdccrParticipant 19]

**** You don’t speak for everyone, especially if they’re MGTOWs. I’m sure many people who’ve never heard or barely heard of the angle of CIA/government involvement who come across this thread may have a new angle to research, and appreciate stumbling across it. Or MGTOWs with this knowledge already may take comfort in knowing there are other like minded individuals also going MGTOW. I never suggested any of the 3 things you wrote. The war isn’t over, so don’t fool yourself into thinking you’ve won and that’s that.

 

edit: Also, I’m not a MRA

[Not a MG╠OWParticipant 17]

No offense but you sound like a woman.

[xdccrParticipant 19]

I’m not a woman. Maybe my last post sounded like I was a woman, the others certainly didn’t. Did you see the post I had to reply to? I haven’t name called or intentionally misrepresented any point made by anyone else. That’s usually the woman thing to do to in a disagreement, no?

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Not a MG╠OW wrote:

No offense but you sound like a woman.

“No offense”, I’d hate to see what you’d say if you tried to be offensive, but I get what you mean, anyway, blue / purple pill men can sound like women as they are unplugging, let’s hope he is a guy and he’s unplugging.

Manginas and white knites are even WORSE than women.

Point is XDCCR, what are you trying to achieve?  It’s fine to present the facts and let men come to their own conclusions, but you’re going beyond that, looking for something that I really don’t think you’re going to find here.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[xdccrParticipant 19]

I’m just going to drop out of this thread for now.

My entire point was that modern feminism was brought to you as a part of a larger plan to impose upon your life by organizations/people in power. Avoiding relationships with women, very smart these days. Thinking there ain’t more s~~~ coming down the pipe from different angles, everything’s great now that I don’t have a woman and kids to tie me down, shortsighted to put it gently

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