Female Tactic I Had Never Seen Before

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Did you read my post where I said she made the first move on me? I had read her as disinterested up to that point based on behavioral and body language cues (I’m a 47 year old man and have had sex with hundreds of women so I kinda know what I’m doing, as much as any normal man can) but then she suddenly kissed me,, put her arms around my neck, hopped up onto me with her legs around my back and said “let’s go to bed”.

Does that sound to you like she was interested?

The issue was that she would do this then halt things before we got to actual sex based on a variety of excuses including being six or on her period, and one time even passing out completely. By that time it was obvious that she wasn’t interested in a sexual relationship with me but rather was leading me on so that I would continue to treat her well and do nice things for her.

I’m not confused about what happened or why, I was surprised by the lengths that she went to in order to maintain some sort of intimate non-sexual relationship with me., that’s all.

Now, I never asked for advice in the first place, but would you like to explain to me how I failed to compliance test her and maintain frame control by not pushing for sex I knew wasn’t going to happen or raping her when she passed out? Or are you prepared to accept that I am a competent man simply relating a bit of data acquired in the field that might be of interest to other guys… i.e. The amount of work a female is willing to do to attempt to extract resources from a man is increasing inversely proportionately to the number of men who are willing to give up those resources in exchange for a growing and cheapening supply of pussy.

That was my point from the beginning, but thank you for your beginner insights on how to get laid. Perhaps someone else here will find them useful.

[DrexelScottParticipant 30]

It’s not a dick-measuring contest, and the number of women you’ve been with is irrelevant. The point is, your behavior put you squarely into a Provider role and is the reason you didn’t get laid. Especially with a woman in her mid-twenties, all of whom are poisoned by feminism and will either f~~~ you immediately or use you endlessly–and again, the fact that you took a broken woman on 3 expensive dates without sleeping her is completely your fault. If she wasn’t putting out by the end of date 1, there should have been no date 2. If you keep that in mind when pursuing young women, you will save yourself tons of money and time and effort.

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[HitmanParticipant]

hey doc , don’t sweat it brother , the guys mean well , i think some of us have been where you were and others haven’t ..i guess i’m trying to say , take it all with a grain of salt ..i get similar s~~~ sometimes , people may speak like you are an amateur when you know your’e not.. i seen alot but nobody can really see it ALL ..that’s just impossible..i like your story though..because mgtow doesn’t have to mean not getting laid anymore ! i consider women to be like radioactive isotopes ..if dealt with correctly ,you don’t get burned ..i minimize the exposure to lower the risks ,.but see, i hope you don’t take my words as preaching to you,because i’m not trying to do that ! just sharing ..not judging bro ..

[MrBurnsParticipant 83]

I was deeply involved in PUA for years, this sounds like last minute resistance which is as common as it is solvable.

The correct thing to do is resist first (i.e. play hard to get). Master the art of timing and calibration to keep her chasing.

Think about it, when was she showing disinterest? When you chased her.
When did she pounce on you? That’s right.

Seduction is a dance of pushing and pulling. Women do a lot of sick s~~~, but this isn’t one of those times, it’s just part of the game and you weren’t playing along.

Having said that, I recommend walking away from all women. sex is just not worth the risks.

[bachelor4goodParticipant 170]

I´m impressed, Doc! Very sophisticated acting on this girls behavior.

IDGAF

[tripvanParticipant 193]

Stargazer wrote:

The amount of work a female is willing to do to attempt to extract resources from a man is increasing inversely proportionately to the number of men who are willing to give up those resources in exchange for a growing and cheapening supply of pussy.
That was my point from the beginning, but thank you for your beginner insights on how to get laid. Perhaps someone else here will find them useful.

And a very astute observation at that! I thank you for your story, And yeah, don´t worry about other people´s responses too much. I think it´s a problem in every field of human expertise on the equal playing ground of the net. No matter what kind of personal epiphany you have reached, there are people who feel they can chime in and preach what you should have done. But don´t be discouraged, there are still plenty of us who read your words and understood your message.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

DrexelScott wrote:

It’s not a dick-measuring contest, and the number of women you’ve been with is irrelevant. The point is, your behavior put you squarely into a Provider role and is the reason you didn’t get laid. Especially with a woman in her mid-twenties, all of whom are poisoned by feminism and will either f~~~ you immediately or use you endlessly–and again, the fact that you took a broken woman on 3 expensive dates without sleeping her is completely your fault. If she wasn’t putting out by the end of date 1, there should have been no date 2. If you keep that in mind when pursuing young women, you will save yourself tons of money and time and effort.

This is spot on gentlemen. Be weary of the sex games. The female buyer’s remorse can quickly turn into a rape accusation. The sad part, the law will side with them even if everyone knows regret isn’t rape. There are a few things we as men need to realize. Females, are sex addicts. Their addictions get worse with age. They will do just about anything to satisfy it. Anyone want to challenge this? I submit the following. What do men have in a sex store that enhances sexual pleasure then compare it to the items available to women. Then look at their anatomy. The clitoris, has one purpose only. That is sexual pleasure, nothing else. It doesn’t help reproduction, or extract waste. We as men do not have a body part solely for sexual pleasure.

This brings me to my next point. Reject/disqualify women as much as you can. First sign of foolishness, reject them. If every man did this the bad behaviors would be curbed. Second, stop whining and dining them. You are not their fathers nor should you want a grown daughter. In the words of Mark Rudov, “There would be no gold diggers if there were no gold givers.”

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

When in doubt, kick her out.

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[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

Stargazer wrote:

Or are you prepared to accept that I am a competent man simply relating a bit of data acquired in the field that might be of interest to other guys… i.e. The amount of work a female is willing to do to attempt to extract resources from a man is increasing inversely proportionately to the number of men who are willing to give up those resources in exchange for a growing and cheapening supply of pussy.

Well said Doc. At the end of the day expanding your own knowledge while saving us all some of the grief is a fine agenda indeed. Some of the more experienced gents here understand that this game that is played, it’s Chess, not Checkers. Failing to understand, read, and respond to the way the field of play is set could indeed cost you more than you bargained for. False rape allegations, future earnings forfeited to victims for “pain and suffering”, general loss of wages due to playing a prolonged game of douchebauchery in which you constantly expend energy and resources, and yet never collect your due. Make no mistake about it, your adding to the collective knowledge here is appreciated.

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

If she’s that into the game of teasing then pushing you away, she’s just plain mean as well as manipulative. Yes, she may have had some bad experiences, but that’s not an excuse to blame it on you. Some women who are too f~~~ed up to enjoy normal relations still love to have guys panting for them, more than they could ever like the actual sex. It feeds their ego, which is much hungrier than their libido. And deep down inside they hate men.
She knows what she is doing. There’s always a subplot, always a scheme.

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[Old RottweilerParticipant 1520]

I’ve been dating a long time. A blind date/ internet date solution is meet them for coffee, then show up 5-10 minutes late. They will have bought their own coffee.

If you like what you see say hi and buy your own coffee. You get to know them a bit for only the price of YOUR cup of coffee. I used to buy them lunch, the bitches cured me of that.

Happy hunting.

[Mister Man SmithParticipant 285]

Honestly this to me looks like SOP moves, you mention she actually got physical, I’m guessing hugging, maybe she played with your hair and ear?

You also mention she’s in her mid 20’s and that’s considerably younger than you, well, let me tell you first hand. I’m 30 years old and I’ve had women going down on me stone cold just for the off chance of getting a free dinner. If they smell money, they wanna get it and like the other guys here mentioned, the “pussy value” is pretty low these days, really low.

Reminds me of a meme I saw not long ago where the guy found out his contact number on a woman’s phone was “free food” I think that was basically what she was doing with you, if you can call her saying you wanna take her to dinner, and when she says yes tell her you wanna spill the bill since it’s this new thing people for equal rights are doing, see if she turns up…

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[Ricardo (Shadow)Participant 12]

To me it seems like she put you into a ltr frame once she has done this she will act like she’s the price by making you wait your pretty f~~~ed there dude I will never put myself in that position unless I wanted to make the girl fall in love with me and use all the Bulls~~~ woman use on guys on her give her a little taste of her own medic I use to be a proffesional pick up artist untill I stated to see the patters of two different frames and I got tired of the lies and the manipulation of woman so I decided to seak the true path of how s~~~ really is and I found you guys I hope this s~~~ helps

[Greg SilveradoParticipant 172]

Talk is cheap but dating is pretty expensive. So I get it totally. It only cost me a couple of thousand dollars but I finally get it. So if you’re going to date do it for free. I just started telling women to come over to my house get high and f~~~. If they don’t like it then they don’t have to come. I don’t want to have a relationship with any of these bitches anyways they’re annoying enough. Will prostitute for a good meal

Always expect the unexpected and gird your loins appropriately. It's a no-fault jungle out there.

[ZambaParticipant 54]

Seems like a lot of nonsense in this thread, even though I haven’t read exactly everything. My rules for “dating” are simple. First “date” is coffee at some average place for 15 minutes, no more. Second date is sex at my or her place. If the second date is not what it should be, she isn’t worth my time, I’d rather do anything else.

0 marriages + 0 children -> 4 life

[RedPillBonerParticipant 541]

This reminds me of a gold digger I met last year. She was, like in your case much younger than me. She was 25 and I was 35 at the time. As soon as she hit me up on POF I should have known because she was pretty f~~~ing fine. I don’t think I am ugly by any means but I was definitely not used to a fine girl like that making the first contact. Anyway I was full blown blue pill then so we had a couple expensive dates where I got a kiss at the end of the night (of course she didn’t lift a finger when the check arrived). She then invited my friend to hang with her and her girls. Of course my friend who gets laid way less than I do was all for it. We met up at a nice bar and moved to the couches and had drinks. She was so annoying with her friends and I just sat there. This went on for a couple hours as I listened to them gossip about their friends and everyone else in the bar. This is where it gets interesting, so it’s time to leave and the check comes. My buddy and I take a look and it’s pretty expensive. Those bitches put all of their drinks and even the drinks they were having prior to us arriving on our tab. Apparently they are in with all the staff. Right as our faces turn in to “WTF?” She leans over and whispers in my ear “I’m going home with you tonight”. So of course not to make a scene and thinking well maybe I’ll f~~~ her we pay the check and she gets in my car and we head back to the house. She then proceeds to get naked and crawl into bed and I follow suit with my BluePillBoner. I eat her pussy and get her off rather quickly then move up to insert and she says na ha ha and roles over and falls asleep! What in the flying f~~~?! I don’t sleep at all that night and take her to her car the next morning. When I ask what was that all about last night she rudely tells me to delete her number. That was a s~~~ty lesson but the beginning of my red pill transformation. I should have known..

[Greg SilveradoParticipant 172]

I suppose you would catch a bit of criticism for spending money on a woman but on the other hand it’s so much more Poetic Justice to be able to lay some s~~~ on a little hottie who thinks she’s all that and a bag of chips.

I am working up to that level but I don’t know if I really want to date women anymore anyway because I’m 57 and at 57 unless you have a lot of money there aren’t a lot of options. Working on the money part. My own enjoyment these days is just deleting women from my phone after giving them a text saying I won’t be a cuckold and that the little boys who are orbiting her aren’t worth the time of day. I always close the text with good luck old lady. I am pretty sure that can ruin a woman’s day and I’m all for that s~~~ they ruined enough of mine.

Congratulations on a story well told, Doc
MBR

Always expect the unexpected and gird your loins appropriately. It's a no-fault jungle out there.

[hdvrodParticipant 1109]

Deus Ex Machina wrote:

They’ve fine tuned the art of manipulation before their senior year of high school, and have had more ass then a toilet.

With men you say they’ve had more ass than a toilet seat.

With women you say they’ve seen more ceilings than Michelangelo. 🙂

Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I once got that “I really wanted you to pin me down and f~~~ me…” message from a girl (masquerading as an adult). I knew it was just a bulls~~~ mind game on her part to try to get some blue pill behavior out of me.

My response: “What you really wanted is a felony in every state, so you won’t be getting it from me. But I passed your text, pic and address on to a couple of ex cons I know who are working as deckhands on a tug boat. They are shopping it around the dock now to see of there are any other takers…”.

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[KaidoParticipant 2395]

When women hit on you its obvious they want something. When a deal is too good to be true it usually is

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