Female Friends: Yes or No?

[AitsuParticipant 2]

How many of you maintain platonic relationships with women and how does this affect your MGTOW lifestyle positively or negatively?
Do some of you specifically NOT maintain female friends because of your approach to MGTOW?  If so what benefits do you see?

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

Personally, once I realise I am in the friends zone I cut all contact with the woman.  If you are a friend of a woman it means she sees you as a Beta orbiter to use at a later date when her car breaks down, the tap leaks or she needs to moan about what an asshole her boyfriend is.

There are no benefits to being platonic friends with a woman, you will get nothing out of the relationship.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[EdogParticipant 254]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

Personally, once I realise I am in the friends zone I cut all contact with the woman.

Bingo!

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

There are no benefits to being platonic friends with a woman, you will get nothing out of the relationship.

And Yahtzee!

There is virtually no reward to maintaining a platonic relationship with a female, and a whole lot of needless emotion and drama. Personally, I find it toxic. You’re either having sex, or you need to be out of there.

There are ways out of the friend zone, but I don’t think any of it would possibly be worth the effort because the reward is still a female you had to play games with and or conform to in order to win her over, which really means you didn’t win s~~~ because you sold yourself out to get it.

[Anon AnoningtonParticipant 62]

Yes I have female friends. It’s nice for getting first-hand red pill experiences. Sometimes I wonder if everything on the internet is a lie and then I remember all the personal experiences that back things up. Like I know multiple professionals (engineers, lawyers) who slut around and it’s nice to know that all the women of ill repute aren’t just lower class Maury Povich tier slags; women are whores in all walks of life. It’s better to learn this from women you aren’t romantically interested in than to get hurt by a dream unicorn.

It takes some maturity to be friends with people you despise on some level. Or maybe it takes cognitive dissonance. Anyway, if you can manage, it’s nice to be able to appreciate someone for their good qualities while turning a blind eye to the bad. At least that’s true when it comes to friends. Wouldn’t say the same for marriage.

[Anonymous 3]

I’ve never had women initiate or even keep a friendship going. I’ve known a couple of (married) women that I used to talk to, but eventually I’d call them on their insanely stupid s~~~, they’d try to do the typical female shaming and condescension, I’d refuse to play that game and just call them on that too, and then that would be that, I’d never hear from them again.

I decided a long time ago I am not going to waste my time giving in a “friendship.” Friendships to me are mutual, a give and take, both parties making efforts to nurture and maintain the friendship.

Very few men even meet this requirement. The vast majority of people only deal with relationships when they can gain something from the other person. They do not think of what they can give or what the other side gains from it. But women? They have nothing to contribute and think their vaginas mean everyone needs to bend over backwards to be in their presence and get their attention.

No thanks. If you ever do find a woman that even temporarily just puts in effort, it’s probably because she wants sex from you. I know plenty of guys are desperate and so they’ll jump all over that, but I’m not one of them so I just play those cool, and let them try to actually make a sexual move. To this day I have never see a woman be able to do that either. MGTOW is easy, the annoying part is just dealing with all the “why aren’t you married?” questions, but even those stop after you get old enough.

[rorickParticipant 682]

I never had a single female friend through out my life and i never ever regretted about it.,, I hated their nature right from when i was a kid … As far as a woman being friend with a guy either they use it for their personal gain like lifting their bags, driving them to college or home etc.. or to have a shoulder to cry on or a f~~~ing listener who listens to all their bull s~~~s.. or as a backup plan or for male attention .. I don’t get it when my friends say they have female friends,. i mean whats the purpose shes not gonna help you out in the middle of the night when you are in need..

[GrotesqueRogueParticipant 116]

Well, I keep some of them close to me in case they can provide something useful, be it job contacts, other interesting people, some help with smth I might not understand or be updated on this topic (like dentistry or getting new South Korean movies or drawing smth).

I have no intention of f~~~ing them because I try to view them as “friendzzzz”, and this term is genderless to me. Can’t bang smth genderless.

At the same time, I give them no sympathy. They know what I think about many things and they know that I might go away the moment they start to criticize my views. I don’t need their emotional garbage about NAWALTs and that those girls are different – f~~~ no, the female nature is all the same, so don’t you try to bulls~~~ me.

I liked the advise given me here that I should view them as tigers – you can be friends with a tiger, but you always have a gun with you.

[RoyDalParticipant]

It happens I have female friends. I never, ever, let things progress anywhere near romance. Humor and business, yes. Sweet sentiments, no — leave that to the simps.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Oh dear … I feel a backlash a comin ☺

I have three … yes three female friends that I know ‘have my back’ ….. well my daughters back.

I chose them … many years ago when I became a single dad. I sought them out. Deliberately went on a date with them and over time told them my true reasons.

One is a surgeon, one is head of a child service department and the other is a high level business owner.

I told them I was looking for role models and confidantes for my daughter and NOT a relationship for myself.

Not one of them refused …. quite the opposite. They fully invested in ‘us’.

They are some of my closest friends and I trust them. They know who and what I am.

However, these are old world women age 50 – 65. I think that’s why this works.

I did have a fling with one but we soon realised that we weren’t going to hook up.

Anyway … yes you can have female friends …. but from this modern age … I’m not so sure. My gut says no …. but who am I to judge.

[AitsuParticipant 2]

Huh, interesting.  Thanks for the replies so far guys.  Seems like a fairly strong majority of you are leaning towards not keeping any of them close noting little to no benefit.

I like going red pill on them and seeing how they react and what they say, I enjoy pointing them out on there bulls~~~ or giving them advice. They don’t know I’m red pill, they think I’m blue pill, figuratively speaking.

This is probably the closest answer I would align with as my best friend is actually female.  I know my audience and am going to shift my language and topics talking with her versus something like speaking with you all here.  Call it two-faced, hypocritical, whatever, but I genuinely enjoy her company and don’t feel like I’m misrepresenting myself at all.  She provides far more emotional support than any of my male friends and goes out of her way to make sure doing well.  Completely stable compared to my whiny ass.  Not romantically interested.  So for me it’s been more positives than negatives but I’ve certainly been in the situation where it’s more give than take though with other ones.

 

ILiveAgain wrote:

Oh dear … I feel a backlash a comin  

I probably took most of the heat off your post with my own.  Seems like you had a very sensible reason to establish those contacts so I doubt many would argue that.  Especially because it’s almost a strictly business relationship and you’ve posed it as being helpful for your family as opposed to solely yourself.

 

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

In this day and age its difficult to even find MALE friends who truly have your back. I have a few.

About female friends: Im going to be 100% transparent here. I have met several females that were/are amazing friends to me. I cant lie. There has always been two predominant factors though:

1. They are a bit older than me. That equates to the fact that they grew up in a different generation, and arent as skewed as the girls in their 20’s today.

 

2. If we were “dating” then these good female “friends” were always a step below what I could probably get. Translation: they were APPRECIATIVE. I know this might sound odd, but after the experiences Ive had, I would rather date an APPRECIATIVE 7, then a BITCH 10.

I do have a female friend whom I have never had any physical romance with. She is about ten years older than me. She is a SOLID, GOOD, FRIEND. Shes been there for me when I need it. I told her about MGTOW, and she literally said “women shouldn’t be able to hold political office”.

Shes smart. Funny. Loyal. And she “gets it”. Ya, I have female friends. Some of them are cool as s~~~. But usually they are of an older generation and are hard to find. Ive met males who are MUCH more superficial and ridiculous than the female friend Im describing. Your miles may vary. I judge people individually by their intentions.

Resident cynic.

[AitsuParticipant 2]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I have met several females that were/are amazing friends to me. I cant lie. There has always been two predominant factors though: 1. They are a bit older than me. That equates to the fact that they grew up in a different generation, and arent as skewed as the girls in their 20’s today. 2. If we were “dating” then these good female “friends” were always a step below what I could probably get. Translation: they were APPRECIATIVE. I know this might sound odd, but after the experiences Ive had, I would rather date an APPRECIATIVE 7, then a BITCH 10. I do have a female friend whom I have never had any physical romance with. She is about ten years older than me. She is a SOLID, GOOD, FRIEND. Shes been there for me when I need it.

Nice to hear I won’t be the only odd one out now.  Also I think you hit the nail on the head too with the age difference being one of the main reasons why you’ve actually had a fairly balanced and stable relationship with them.  That’s actually the same situation here and those few extra years on her have brought out that appreciation factor that you mentioned.  I’d be horribly embarrassed if I were to ever mention to her that she has seemed like a mother figure to me, but that’s the sort of comfy vibe I get sometimes versus the spoiled princess unappreciative attitude you’d maybe be more likely to find in the younger ones.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

No, female friends are worthless.

Only good thing that comes out of being friends with women is you become a stronger MGTOW.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Aitsu,

Ya I think, no, I KNOW the age factor plays into it. If you have a female “friend” who is cool as s~~~, then keep her as a friend. In keeping with the spirit of this forum, the interesting question becomes: if you f~~~ her or are romantically involved with her, does her attitude and the way in which she relate to you change? Quite possibly.

 

But, Ive definitely met some cool as f~~~ female friends, or even girls Ive been physical with but thought of them as friends.

The common denominator though has always been dating “down” (i.e. they explicitly said the guys they dated were of lower caliber). I say this NOT to toot my own horn, but rather to show that, THAT is the only way to get female reciprocity or appreciation, without having a boat load of money.

 

There is ONE female (the one I described before) that is strictly friendship. But again shes of a different generation.

 

Resident cynic.

[StandUpGuyParticipant 334]

No. I have enough friends. Do not fall for this trap.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

I find female companionship to be boring as hell, so for me it’s a no.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Anonymous 9]

What are you going to talk about?

Sports? Movies? Family?

There’s no point unless you’re gay, or you’re trying to score brownie points with intentions of moving in once she’s split up with the guy she’s been crying on your shoulders about.

 

[RebaneParticipant 215]

I had some female friends, but  there’s this thing i have noticed. Everything’s fine until we’re just chilling and not discussing any serious topics OR until the male meets some hardships in his life. Then you might hear her say things like “don’t bring me down” & “stop being so serious”. Do they really care about me or is this all about them, I asked myself.  A friendship should go both ways.

Now I think I don’t need them. But for you I’d recommend most definitely do not share any problems with females. Good chance they are not interested or they can manipulate your weaknesses afterwards.

[davParticipant 422]

Nope. Used to get teased for being a nerd by girls at school. Now they want me fix their computer.

 

Fix your own computer, bitch.

[Anonymous 12]

As some of the guys have said I think you can have platonic female friends but kept at a distance, the moment you start to let them into much and listen to their s~~~ or spend too much time with them, that’s when you will start to feel like they owe you something and then you start to feel resentful because you have just listened to all their s~~~ about the dickhead they are dating and yet she still won’t suck your c~~~.

I used to be the idiot who believed you could be friends with women and that is how I felt every time, it just happens it always leads back to sex one way or another.

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