Father Wins Custody in Texas (my advice on how to do the same)

[narwhalParticipant]

@TFW Yea, didn’t mean to bust it for you. But it was a lesson learned. It makes me wonder about the women who told me that their husband cheated on them. Makes me wonder if it was actually true or if they figured it was a white lie, because the truth just wouldn’t give the impression that they wanted to give.

And 100% agree regarding female lawyers. Mine was also female and she was pretty aggressive and did a good job. Women are more then happy to tear up another when paid to do so.

I took a brief look at the C&C website and it looks like they actually have more female lawyers on staff then men. A little surprised by that as I expect it to be a sausage fest, but it only supports what you stated regarding women lawyers.

Ok. Then do it.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

TexasFatherWins wrote:

Okay, enough whining.

Yeah, this was not whining, this post was epic. Damn good read man and jeez.. holy s~~~ I feel bad for you.

[TexasFatherWinsParticipant 37]

Big Boss wrote:

TexasFatherWins wrote:

Okay, enough whining.

Yeah, this was not whining, this post was epic. Damn good read man and jeez.. holy s~~~ I feel bad for you.

DO NOT FEEL BAD FOR ME!!!!! I am the happiest I have been since 2004 when I met the creature. Seriously, I refuse your sympathy while appreciating the gesture.

Feel sorry for the millions of men who are still trapped in abusive relations~~~s because of a system that gives biased treatment to their abusers.

Oh, and thanks!

narwhal wrote:

It makes me wonder about the women who told me that their husband cheated on them. Makes me wonder if it was actually true or if they figured it was a white lie, because the truth just wouldn’t give the impression that they wanted to give.

I suspect that many of those stories were exaggerated or fabricated to get sympathy from you as a chivalrous male.

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chiv·al·rous
adjective
(of a man or his behavior) courteous and gallant, especially toward women.
synonyms:gallant, gentlemanly, honorable, respectful, considerate

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I had scratches and bruses and had my mother there as a witness that time.The other thing was i was on the phone with 911 while she was hitting and scratching me.This was more than 17 years ago.I just got lucky.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[TexasFatherWinsParticipant 37]

MgtowWave wrote:

I had scratches and bruses and had my mother there as a witness that time.The other thing was i was on the phone with 911 while she was hitting and scratching me.This was more than 17 years ago.I just got lucky.

I have to ask, did you ever think you’d be saying you are lucky because your ex was an abusive horrible bitch? I came damn close to saying the same thing when I was doing my original post. I was lucky because my ex was so bad that was I able to use video evidence.

Also, under the newer domestic violence laws, even if a guy is bruised, scratched, etc, and the woman has no marks, if she claims that the damage to the man was done in self-defense, it’s entirely plausible that the police will arrest a man because he’s the presumed guilty party.

Again, this is why you need video evidence.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

I was just lucky that it didnt happen under laws like that where the man is always guilty.
I was lucky my mother was there.I was lucky the police listenend to my side.I was lucky the police didnt just give her one of their business cards and take me down the road and beat my ass before taking me to jail.I was lucky that it happened to happen one time where i had a witness.I was lucky for a lot of things.

I was stupid for bailing her out of jail.I was stupid for not filing for divorce then and there.I was stupid for not testifyeing against her in court along with a few other witnesses.I was stupid for not telling a judge that she was putting me and our son through hell on a reguliar basis.I was stupid for believing she would return to being “normal”.I was stupid for having stayed married to her as long as i had.I was stupid for a lot of things.

Guys dont be stupid.Not in womens nature to give a f~~~ about you.

It is in their nature to lie about it.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[BeeParticipant 700]

Thank you for this post and topic. I only have one or two videos now. A spy camera is in my future.

It is not ok to call a child names, pull hair, kick her, punch her, or try to get her to lick a pile of salt off the floor as punishment. If you want to go, you can. I’ll take care of our child.

[AttonParticipant]

Repeated Video documentation is always a good way of bringing out the truth. Smart one sir smart one indeed.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Binary LogicParticipant 2351]

TexasFatherWins wrote:

I just finished a nasty . . . marriage (I was going to say divorce but the marriage was bad to begin with). I became trapped in my marriage when my son was born. I faced the usual problem, I knew I would lose custody, get to pay for her to live for the next 12 years, etc. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, she was also had a physically and mentally abusive. So . . . I was trapped in hell for seven years.

Okay, enough whining.

The important thing is I used evidence of the real monster to get custody and I wanted to let other men know it can work if you play your cards right. That’s right, if you are in a similar situation, YOU COULD WIN CUSTODY, EVEN IN TEXAS.

The secret to my success was that I manned up and . . . bought a hidden camera. Well, the primary requirement is that the woman initiates violence and that the guy is chivalrous enough to have never hit back.

This innocent looking clock with a hidden camera on Amazon is what I used.
http://amzn.com/B00IX2HC6C

I tell you, now that the trauma of the divorce is over and I have won custody, the best memory I have from my marriage is her face when we surprised her at the custody hearing with the first video which showed her her forcing the door of my bedroom while I was asleep and attacking me. The second and third videos were even worse. Her male attorney who had demonized me the day before was speechless. I had spent the previous day listening to her spin a version of her story which made me sound like the worst rapist-abuser husband ever to grace the Lifetime Movie Network. He had no clue how to recover. When her lawyer was cross examining me, the judge told him to GIVE UP and move on.

This is not why I am posting this story. Anyone who isn’t in the situation I was in is probably thinking “DUH, MORON. OF COURSE YOU VIDEO IT.” It is not that simple when you are living it.

There is a reason it took me six long years of hell before I could convince myself to do something as “underhanded” as video my 110 pound wife attacking me at 220 pounds. I think it was part of my chivalrous upbringing that told me secretly recording anything, let alone my wife, was wrong, regardless of the fact that she was lying to the world and telling them I was abusive (oh yes, the irony was only surpassed by the pain this accusation caused). In fact, I only bought the camera to defend myself if she ever lied to the police. It was only when she tried to accuse me of abuse and RAPE to get custody of our son and even stop me from having visitation that I handed the recordings to my attorney.

Do not let yourself be trapped in an abusive marriage because you are a good guy. Videoing an abusive woman is the ONLY WAY YOU WILL EVER PROVE SHE DID IT. I would have been totally f~~~ed if I had not had those videos.

If you do video, NEVER TELL HER YOU HAVE IT. NEVER NEVER TRY TO USE IT TO GET HER TO IMPROVE. SHE WILL NEVER IMPROVE. She is an abuser just like any wife beating asshole. She might kill you. She might destroy your house to destroy the videos. Just get the videos you need and use them.

Now, you have to make sure the camera in inconspicuous. You only get one shot. If she catches you, your dead.

The video needs to show her initiating violence without you fighting back. Do not restrain her. I had one video with my wife verbally abusing me and then attacking me (including hitting me in the face) while I was laying on my back in my bed which we could not use because I then pinned her down by her wrists to stop her and so I could make an escape. Yeah, stopping her fists was supposedly a bad thing. Self defense is not allowed for men. It sucks but accept it and move on. Anyhow, just block blows to the best of your ability for 5 or 10 minutes then hide until she stops trying to get at you. You will need to record multiple incidents just to make sure the court believes this was not a one off type of fight.

Next, get a GOOD divorce lawyer and get your kids. DO NOT WARN HER YOU ARE GOING TO A DIVORCE LAWYER. Using the videos, the lawyer can get you emergency temporary custody prior to the custody hearing. I failed here because I did not give my lawyer the videos until just before the custody hearing when it was almost too late.

The best advice I have on finding a good divorce lawyer is ask a “fixed fee” divorce lawyer who he would use if he were in your shoes. This is not a guarantee of quality but it is a lot better than going by web advertisements. I also recommend a woman attorney to avoid negative reactions from the court when your attorney questions your soon to be ex wife (ie a male attorney bashing her for her abuse could go badly for you).

Trust me, you will be the happiest man alive when you get custody from that abusive creature (anyone who is abusive, female or male, does not deserve to be called human). Do it for your kids. Trust me, you can be a better nurturer and parent than an abusive woman will ever be.

Men can get custody away from bad mothers. We just have to do the work for ourselves and not expect the justice system to give us equal treatment.

I may edit this later but I wanted to get this up as soon as possible.

Thank you to MGTOW for giving me access to the board so I could post this story.

The guy that wrote that piece… WINNING!

Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...

[CPilotParticipant 79]

Welcome brother! We are not victims, we are survivors. Nobody, man or woman, should live through the hell. DV is 50/50.

Thank you for sharing your story.

A man that stops caring is a big deal.

[Anonymous 5]

F~~~ing A man. That’s great to here on that note. I can relate in a little way. Funny to think if we all wore body cameras women would have no way out in many occasions.

[TexasFatherWinsParticipant 37]

After the last week, I thought I should add a little more encouragement for men “lucky” enough to have physically violent creatures which they are legally bound, where said creature is basing her future on the hope of stealing your children and draining you through the standard post-marital tax (child support and alimony).

Apparently, my enslaver was hoping that I would be giving her post-marital taxes in the amount of $5,000 per month. This was her primary reason for accusing me of physical and sexual abuse because Texas law does not allow alimony without conditions such as domestic violence because we are a community property state.

Given her expectation that the court would continue her enslavement of me post-divorce, when she transitioned from a neglectful, stay at home mother back to the workforce, she refused to consider full time employment. Instead, she applied for a part-time, reduced pay-per-hour position. This was about six months before we separated. In the past two years, she has refused to get a full-time, full-pay position.

Anyhow, she is now having to declare bankruptcy because her credit cards are all maxed out, the new car I bought and paid for is getting old and is starting to break down due in part to non-maintenance, she cannot pay her bills in the apartment she rented assuming I would be forever bound to fork over cash and, best of all, she is losing her looks which will hopefully prevent her from roping another sucker into supporting her.

Hell, as of this week, she can’t even afford to repair the car and is having to bum rides from people at her work or ride the bus or her bike to work.

Disturbingly, she likes to call me and tell me all about her woes. Though her pride prevents her from directly stating it, she is hoping that I will take her back and agree to let her spend my hard earned money on herself again.

It’s f~~~ing amazing to know that I would never take her back because I am worth more than that. Besides, why would I want someone back whose already tried to destroy me and then went out and contracted STDs (oh yeah, got to hear about that too, did I mention she is now gross). I am waiting for the appropriate time to say go to to hell.

Anyhow, to any man in the position I was in, GO FOR IT. GET THE BITCH ON FILM. Get out and get on with your life.

PS:
On a side note about money, I live the same lifestyle and buy just as many unnecessary consumer goods as I did during my marriage (probably more). BUT, strangely enough, my bank accounts now grow at a phenomenal rate. I cannot figure out where the money was going, but somehow, she was draining my paycheck to, well, nothing every month during our marriage. I can see the transaction logs. I have figured out it was just nickled and dimed away while she went from store to store while I was working. I just cannot believe the difference and how there is not a huge pile of accumulated treasure sitting around because almost everything she purchased was useless junk.

[TexasFatherWinsParticipant 37]

Funny Follow-Up
She just got another guy arrested. Long story, may tell it all later.

Key is, it sounds like she started a public fight and got the guy arrested.

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