Fallout games

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Tiga K wrote:

I’ve preorded fallout 4. I don’t usually buy games at full price, but if this going to be like skyrim was to oblivion, then it is more then worth the $90 bucks I put out for it. In case my full price comment doesn’t make sense, I’m a steam user and am used to buying games once they go on sale for at least 75%,off.

I also got Fallout 4 on Steam. Finished downloading the data yesterday, waiting for Tuesday when I come back from work.

I checked Fallout 4 CPU list meets system requirements, to see if the i7 4700HQ on my laptop met the requirement – as I thought it might not be up to par – and began to panic. It’s just above the threshold, so hopefully I can run the game….

Just two more days, thumbs up.

And it’s Fallout Week

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

@skeptisk

My laptop is about the same. I won’t be running it on high settings, but who knows, maybe that will improve when they optimize the game. I’ve had a friend who bought tomb raider (2013) when it first came out and he couldn’t run it well on low. Now he can almost max the settings. Also, Bethesda might just be overshooting the requirements since that would be better than undershooting them. Imagine how p~~~ed people would be if their system couldn’t handle the game despite meeting the requirements. My laptop can handle BioShock infinite on high settings so I’ll have faith it can handle this game low at least.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Tiga K wrote:

@skeptisk

My laptop is about the same. I won’t be running it on high settings, but who knows, maybe that will improve when they optimize the game. I’ve had a friend who bought tomb raider (2013) when it first came out and he couldn’t run it well on low. Now he can almost max the settings. Also, Bethesda might just be overshooting the requirements since that would be better than undershooting them. Imagine how p~~~ed people would be if their system couldn’t handle the game despite meeting the requirements. My laptop can handle BioShock infinite on high settings so I’ll have faith it can handle this game low at least.

The graphics card can handle the game. It’s the handling of the world, the NPC’s and everything else that will trigger the processor to speed up a bit. So, the trick is to make sure the graphics card can handle all the stuff and not swap it to the CPU. And I do hope they’ve overshot the requirements.

Last, make sure you avoid spoilers on Youtube!

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Holy cow, it’s only one day (or less) for the release of this anticipated game!!

I wonder how the GDP-index will drop this week due to FO4. Many many sick leaves for some. For me, I’ll really ramping up on Thursday when free week starts after workweek is done. Maybe I’ll start building up the face and so on and see how it looks tomorrow, I’m so tempted.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Skeptisk wrote:

Holy cow, it’s only one day (or less) for the release of this anticipated game!!

I wonder how the GDP-index will drop this week due to FO4. Many many sick leaves for some. For me, I’ll really ramping up on Thursday when free week starts after workweek is done. Maybe I’ll start building up the face and so on and see how it looks tomorrow, I’m so tempted.

Yep. If you’re going to be awake, you can download it 12:01 AM (for each time zone as I understand it). I still have a month of school, so I won’t be able to gorge on game hours (yet), but I still plan on playing it at least a little bit Tuesday. I’ve never had the chance to play a game from it’s release and watch how the developers alter it along the way due to my tendency to only purchase discount games, so I’m looking forward to it. In a few days I’m sure I’ll post my thoughts on the game in this thread.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

I preloaded it on Sunday, and I began playing it today. It runs fine on my computer, no hangups or anything. 5 1/2 hours without incidences.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

The textures aren’t too good, but I’m having a lot of fun being a melee berserker with my Grognak the barbarian outfit and a power fist 😀

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Well, I’ve been doing stuff now, and it’s just the beginning.

As for textures, they’re better than FO3, but not as good as some other games.

The weather is dynamic, and changes naturally. Nice port from one of the reality-mods out there.

And the textures on the npcs are a lot brighter than expected. I wonder if they have amped the settings to high…

The settlements are the new thing now, and as I haven’t developed them yet, I think I see where this is going. It’s a nice change from FO3.

Joined the Minutemen and the Brotherhood of Steel, doing quests for them as I speak. Upgraded the power-armor to Winterized textures and type B (T-45B, with the exception of the chest, which I upgraded to ‘Piezonucleic’ in a sidequest at Polytec)…

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"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Well, I’ve been doing stuff now, and it’s just the beginning.

As for textures, they’re better than FO3, but not as good as some other games.

The weather is dynamic, and changes naturally. Nice port from one of the reality-mods out there.

And the textures on the npcs are a lot brighter than expected. I wonder if they have amped the settings to high…

The settlements are the new thing now, and as I haven’t developed them yet, I think I see where this is going. It’s a nice change from FO3.

Joined the Minutemen and the Brotherhood of Steel, doing quests for them as I speak. Upgraded the power-armor to Winterized textures and type B (T-45B, with the exception of the chest, which I upgraded to ‘Piezonucleic’ in a sidequest at Polytec)…

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"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

I’m general of the minutemen and recently joined the brotherhood of steel. Retrieving tech for that scribe is a good excuse to explore (sorry Shuan). It feels weird helping the brotherhood since I used to hunt them down and destroy them in new Vegas, I will always remember them as the basterd that wrapped explosives around my neck and told me to kill a ranger. Good thing for me the ranger was able to remove the collar. For the brotherhood, not so good.

[Anonymous 3]

This game is brutally boring to me. Bad writing, bad dialogue, boring fetch quests.

I don’t think I can take forcing myself to play this anymore. I’m glad I didn’t pay for this crappy game, if I had paid $60 for this I’d be REALLY p~~~ed. But a friend linked me to a place to get it, and I figured “let me at least try before I buy this” and now I’m glad I did.

I loved Skyrim, NV and FO3. Literally put in HUNDREDS of hours on EACH game. I don’t have an exact figure but I guarantee I’m at over 1000 total hours player for all 3 games.

And I can’t stand FO4. Got into the hype for it, but didn’t like the Steam DRM so I chose to wait a bit.

I hope you guys are enjoying the game. If you can get the same joy out of this game that I got out of the other games I am very happy for you. I just know I can’t get it out of this game, about to uninstall and erase it as I can’t take yet another BOS fetch quest. I think I finished the main storyline already, it seems to have just moved into the faction questlines only now. Wish I could find out for sure, but nobody has any faq or walkthrough available.

For Fallout The Vault wikia is probably the best thing to have. For Skyrim it has a wikia of its own as well. But The Vault hasn’t been updated yet either.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

@ phoenix

I’m loving it so far, but I’m not surprised you don’t. One of the things that I love about Bethesda is that they are constantly changing their games rather than stickingg very closely to what worked in the past. The only downside to it is risking having fans unhappy with the changes. I personally didn’t care for FO3 and found it very anti-climatic. In the elder scrolls series I don’t like morrowind very much, it is extraordinarily overrated by its pretentious fans.

[Anonymous 3]

Seems like people that liked the previous ones don’t like this one, and people that didn’t do like it. Although I don’t quite understand why people that didn’t like the previous ones would play this, as it seems a bit counter-intuitive to me to play a series that a person doesn’t like with the expectation that it changes to their liking.

Shrug. Obvious design change, and likely going forward it will be this way too. I’d say the main thing is they went from PC RPG to console shooter with some RPG elements. An inferior version of Borderlands imo (if you like FO4 I would strongly suggest Borderlands, it does the shooter gameplay better and is a better entry into that style of game, seems to be what Bethesda was trying to emulate with FO4 but didn’t quite achieve).

I think shooters are generally more popular, easier and cheaper to develop, and sell better. But if they’re going to go the shooter route, they’re going to need to up their graphics and tighten up their performance issues. RPG fans are a lot more forgiving in those areas.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

@phoenix

Really? I thought the “true RPG” camp and the “streamlining” camp have been pretty even.

Also, I highly suggest staying away from the borderlands series. The first game was great and the second was enjoyable to me for a long time, but the series is now PC as can be. Too many strong female characters with a tendency to be lesbian or bi and the male characters are stupid. Pre-Sequel was like an sjw wet dream and I regret giving gearbox my money. The main writer has been fired so maybe things will improve, but I’m going to be catious from now on.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Bethesda have tightened up things from FO3, obviously, and in many ways this game gives me the vibe of what the first Fallout game would look like (NCR, BoS etc.) if it was made as a FPS/3’rd PS RPG.

They’ve made the bare bones system were all the other stuff can get hooked onto, including the console-players.

The modding community hasn’t even began with it yet, and in many ways FO4 is the result of many mods that was made for FO3/FO:NV would be incorporated and going live from the get go. One I used was the Project Reality Mod, which we can see the result of with rain, radiation-storm, etc.

So, I wonder how the modding community will, once again, upgrade FO4. To me it would be tweaking of building setups of the settlements, weapons mods, armor mods, higher texture resolutions (some have complained about it). But I’m not going to prejudge them before they’ve started.

And the last thing from FO:NV, which I was unaware, was that some modders made a complete mission with voice acting. We might see missions added as well, with voice acting, using the generic responses from the main character.

As for how far I’ve come, I’d say about one quarter on the way, as I have multiple missions ongoing, and aren’t to keen to finish the main story just yet.

My pet peeve would be how the building of fences and crops are ‘floating’ off the ground when the ground is sloping. And how emancipated all the settlers look like, they all seem on the brink of starvation with a sameness-look on their faces. Maybe the random generator doesn’t influence their faces, just clothing and weapons? Not sure, but a mod will fix this, I feel a bit creeped out by the look from some of them. They look smug….

Edit. Ohhh, and they got the control of the power-armor pretty much right. It’s not just another set of clothing, it’s from power-up (fusion cells) to steering them, the HUD-display, voice filter during conversations etc. And the leg armor doesn’t look ridiculous were the upper part of the thigh-armor seems out of place when walking (for reference you should look how it was in FO3).

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Anonymous 3]

FO4 did take a lot of mods from FO3 and NV. The settlement building is a direct, and rather inferior, ripoff of Real Time Settler mod.

I’m not sure FO4 can be modded heavily though, part of the problem is the voiced main character.

Actually all 3 of those previous games, (NV is actually Obsidian not Bethesda though) have voiced quest mods.

Especially Skyrim! Skyrim has a ton of quest mods with full voice acting, new lands, full quests, even some new shouts and other stuff in them. There are also two great NPC mods that fill Skyrim up with a lot more people, who are fully scripted, voiced and some even have quests. You can talk to most of them as well. If you’re interested, the two NPC mods to get are I believe Inconsequential NPC and Interesting NPC mods. They’re both pretty big, what with the voice acting. In terms of quest mods/lands, there is Falskaar and a bunch others.

New Vegas had the New Vegas Bounties quest line/mod. FO3 had a few, one was called Project Heaven, another was Mothership Zeta Crew where you got command of your own faction which winds up setting up teleporters around the wasteland and really makes their presence felt.

But Skyrim really has more support and more work on it. I guess people just like it more. I think a lot of aspiring voice actors these days lend their talents to these mods, and a lot of dev hopefuls also use mods as a sort of job application. A few mod authors have been hired by gaming companies in large part due to their work. Not by Bethesda though, whom refuse to hire the mod authors, which is kind of funny. Bethesda instead just rips off the mods, which isn’t a real problem usually, but then seems to usually make an inferior version too haha.

As you can probably tell, I’ve been a gamer most of my life, well before these games came out, but they’ve been games I’ve truly enjoyed. lol you guys can probably understand a bit more why I dislike FO4 so much as a result. What a letdown for me! But like I wrote earlier, I’m glad some of you guys are really enjoying it, and I hope you get out of this title what I got out of those previous ones.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Since we’re on the topic of mods, I thought of a good question. Do you think Bethesda/steam will try to monetize mods again like they tried with skyrim? To me it seems like they won’t. In fact, stealing mods in order to make changes in future games seems like a good reason to keep it free and then taking all the cash instead of sharing it with a mod creator. The only reason I thought of it is because I heard someone claim they were planning on it. I’m not much of a mod guy myself, but it would annoy me a little bit if they tried that again.

[Anonymous 3]

Tiga K wrote:

Since we’re on the topic of mods, I thought of a good question. Do you think Bethesda/steam will try to monetize mods again like they tried with skyrim? To me it seems like they won’t. In fact, stealing mods in order to make changes in future games seems like a good reason to keep it free and then taking all the cash instead of sharing it with a mod creator. The only reason I thought of it is because I heard someone claim they were planning on it. I’m not much of a mod guy myself, but it would annoy me a little bit if they tried that again.

I’m certain they will. I don’t think Steam will be as interested, as it was a debacle for Valve allegedly.

Fallout 4, I should point out, isn’t moddable by default. Not a big deal but you do have to do some .ini editing.

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

With my power armor, and gatling laser-gun…… I’m good to go!! Here fro Gunner’s Plaza (basement):

And this shot is Boston Airport after the construction and deployment to the Institute. The walls, lightboxes and walkways was made after deployment.

Construction of teleport device at the Brotherhood’s site at Boston Airport:

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Nice. If you want to take a screenshoot without the UI in the way, use the console command ‘tm’ and it will remove them from the screen.

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