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It’s a tricky one when considering young lads around 14. You want to help them, and we should help them, but also have to protect them a little from the true horrors.
I’m more careful what I say on here to the younger members for sure. But I still try and help and pitch it at a toned down level.
Remember how impressionable and confused you were when you were 14? Sure people develop at different rates but the majority of kids at 14 can’t handle all the gory details. Let them be kids for a while longer. It’s a s~~~ arse world waiting for them.
I was thinking articles aimed at the younger members in the archives? And also a symbol next to their user name so we know these guys are say pre 18? I would sooner they come to this MGTOW website with these genuinely sincere and helpful members than be educated elsewhere on the Internet.
Could there be anyway of restricting access to the full site if you are below a certain age? Of course they will bulls~~~ and lie about their age on signing up.
A tricky one.
I don’t understand. Boys are second class citizens from kindergarten through college and into the workplace.
One of the main tools to achieve this has been to brainwash boys from infancy from their parents, through school, in the media, video games, movies and tv.
Another method was to move the goal posts fast. Affirmative consent is new and moving rapidly. Do you think the feminist sex Ed teachers are telling the boys of the risks of false allegations?
Only 75% of kids use condoms and have half of all STD’s. Staggering figures on HIV, HPV, Clamydia and gonorrhea by ages 14-19. One in four boys will be single fathers by age 20.
These children have to deal the custody, child support because their single moms tell them that you can do what you want when you want…like women. They’re also taught that women are superior to men by their single moms.
In other words, we placing children in adult situations and lying to them about the consequences. Men are no longer present to warn boys.
Boys are being groomed to be slaves right before our eyes.
We post on a site which is in no way obscene or hateful and are worried a young person may read. I cannot say I have seen an out and out lie on this board.
Parents are responsible for their children’s education about sex. School forces it (and the opposite result is occurring).
To avoid political exposure parents are in control. Turn off the computer.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
In fact: sometimes i wondered what will happen if one time a little lad, maybe a son of one of my friends, wants to know my “advise” about women…
And due to my sense of being an outsider, i always thought that i will try to be “social correct” and tell him nice things about everything… i mean: happy lies…
But now i am sure that i will try to put “real talk” in the middle of everything just to stay calm thinking that i will be, for sure, the only one who really helps this young man in his dangerous path of life surrounded by human beings with strength in her mind and not in his muscles…
Women train since little for get control with sex weapons and to get advantage of everyone, and boys don’t have any weapons to fight against it… sometimes before it’s too late to react…
So, if i were they i wished someone in my young years told me: you are normal, what happens to you it’s a consequence of believe lies…it’s not your fault…
That would be fantastic…
Too late better than never of course…
Irishman who likes creepy snakelady avatars wrote : ) “We have nothing to lose by telling guys the truth and it would be wrong to withhold it.” Well said.
James wrote, “If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.”
IMO, …………………………as Sam Kinison said to the evaluating professors at Rodney Dangerfield’s academic board in “Back to school,”
“Easy now, the guys under a lot of stress,(and to Rodney)……………….”SAY IT!…………………..SAY IT!”
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
H.R.Pufinstuf,”we are placing children in adult situations and lying to them about the consequences.”
this TRUTH had to be repeated.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
I agree we have to tell them the truth, everything. My concern was how we delver it to them.
Young minds are impressionable and dare I say it a bit fragile. If we give them a full hardcore red pill straight away full of all the horrors then I don’t think that’s right for them. Like when our Dads first gave us beer as kids, they didn’t give us full strength but put half lemonade in to water it down.
How about a few articles designed to be junior red pills, start them off slowly and guide them as they explore themselves. I remember feeling sick and quite upset reading some of the horror stories on here for the first time and I’m 36 and I’ve had a colourful life.
It really is a s~~~ty rigged world out there waiting for them. I don’t want to put it all out there for them and demoralise them before they get going.
I will be educating my own son on how the game really is. I won’t be starting off with “son your mother, and all women, are totally f~~~ing c~~~ whores”. It will be graduated and pitched “what did you think of this?” Or “what did you find out in your research on marriage ” etc.
i agree. Despite all the dramas, there is a lot of people who are (at least the seem like that) happy being married, fathers and all the stuff…
i consider myself lucky because i don’t had opportunities with women in the past but that only affect me in my pride, because i don’t really wanted to form a family, only wanted a “life female partner”… i know a lot o people who had girlfriends and they broke but they are keep trying to get a NATWALT because they adore being fathers one day… that is a real drama… they want to get something that can crumble his entire life and even lost it with only a few word from a woman: “i don’t love you anymore”…
The idea of make “young boys videos” about MGTOW with a little red pill spirit , seems to me a great idea… but i think that nowadays a 14 years old young boy can find lot o raw information everywhere else, and when they get into parties with no alcohol and drugs? but full of young little girls dressed like a real sluts… they eventually need to know “how” and more important “WHY” they act like that and which are the risks of get trapped in her spider webs…
Like the great Bill blurr said: “where is your dick when you get caught”? and you think that he is your friend 😉
@ Toad – I’m hoping that after my sons “home education” from me he will have zero interest in getting married.
If he wants kids there are better ways for him to do that.
I don’t want him following my path at all. I genuinely wouldn’t of followed it myself had I found MGTOW sooner.
… and for f~~~s sake don’t be googling “young boys videos” or you’ll have the cops breaking your door down! 😀
That’s interesting. A fun fact about me, the reality is that my mother never wanted to have kids and i’m here because of my father insist… But she always said me with no remorse because she know, now better that ever, about my “particular” thoughts, that if she would was smart i’m wouldn’t be alive…
And my response always was: “bad choice…”
She always said that the kids broke the relationship more than anything and she is proud of me in my intention of live my life without the fear of being exploited by any female…
I pretend to keep it that way
@ Toad – I think if more of us knew the truth a lot of us would only be here because of an “accident”. A drunken night or feelings of love / lust taking over. It’s mother natures trick to keep the species going. I hope you don’t carry that knowledge with you or with too much negatively.
You’re alive, you have food in your belly, that’s f~~~ing awesome!
Not at all. Like i said i’m fully agree with my mother about having children’s , so if i’m a mistake: welcome, but i didn’t ask for it and even she doesn’t ask me for nothing in return, so, here i am, free to do as pleased with my life and without commitment about spread my genes or my surnames in other human beings in this nonsense absurd “whell of life”…
BTW: today in my country a new female politician has included is her program something new about feminist called “the circle of life”, no kidding …i’m scared for discover what is all about…
I would say for a teenage boy, on his way to manhood, there are things connected with MGTOW that would be of value for him: * Developing a strong identity that can’t be manipulated by peer pressure. * Competence at useful skills that enable him to get paid. * Awareness of traps and pitfalls, which will keep him from getting burdened young. * Resolve and direction, so he can’t be swayed by societal norms that work against him. By working on character, and these, he is more likely to be successful. The rest of the said “socialization” is a different beast.
Oh that one hurt Richard but in a good way lol. Although your points are extremely valid and I agree with them 100% I couldn’t help but think of how corporate those bullet points were. Reminds me of when I had to sell an idea to my superiors in the military and later contracting company. Thank you for reminding this wounded guy what he’ll be going back to when he’s back to being work capable while providing strong knowledge to our brothers.
Be thankful I didn’t break out Powerpoint for this 😛
You just reminded me now that I am interested in trying to get some support network in place for MGTOW (call it MGTOWN).
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Bluntly, guys under 18 shouldn’t even be here – for the same reason I wouldn’t allow my own son to see certain movies. But I have broken that rule and welcomed them myself. In one case, it was to my regret. He was bringing too much ugly “OMG did you see this ugly feminist s~~~?” in the form of highly-toxic links to videos and articles that were not conducive to his well-being.
There is a difference between *dealing* with it… and going out to deliberately seek and find it — and bring it into your house, mind or life. It was the equivalent of going out to collect dog s~~~, bringing it into the kitchen and saying “Dad look at this dog s~~~ I found!”. A kid should not be doing that. Pick flowers and bring them into the house. Leave the dog s~~~ outside.
Anyone who wants to arrive at their own level of consciousness and clarity is welcome here to explore. EXPLORE. Giving the visitor plenty to explore is why we’re here. But we’re not actively knocking on their door, or selling them ideas. It makes ZERO difference if a visitor embraces it… or total rejects what they find here. We encourage them to do both – and leave. The point – and question – is that they have the capacity to make up their own minds.
A 14 year old simply doesn’t have the LEGAL capacity to make up is own mind.
He’s not under his “own” jurisdiction. That’s why a certain distance must be maintained.Legally, he can’t “go his own way” . But he can certainly begin to open his eyes to the real world around him , prepare and educate himself on how he might begin to face the world that awaits him (and he will be thrown into ) on his 18th birthday.
Doesn’t anyone think it’s WIERD that the government would give you keys to a CAR and a license to drive it at 16… but that person can’t take a legal drink until they are 21? That is seriously f~~~ed up and backwards. If you can’t legally even drink a beer or smoke a cigarette, you shouldn’t be permitted to DRIVE ON THE ROAD WHERE YOU CAN KILL OTHER PEOPLE WHEN YOU ARE RECKLESS. I think that is so f~~~ed up…. but you know why they do it? It gives you a 5 year window to f~~~ the rest of your life up. Go to a party, drive a car, (like every 19 year old does) get a DUI and you’re paying for the rest if your life — and it hasn’t even begun yet! You begin your life in the s~~~ter.
It’s designed that way. They know giving you keys to a car at 16 is stupid.
And not permitting you to have a beer until you are 21 is also stupid.It’s as if the system is deliberately designed to have young kids begin their lives in the s~~~ter or put them at great risk of damaging themselves.
They exploit youngsters like they exploit older men who signed marriage contracts without being aware of the very real dangers and not knowing how it can damage him….. and they fabricate false rape accusations because they can’t “catch enough predators” (see my recent sticky thread on that)…… so they try to entice men pretending to be hot chicks on the internet – to see if would be interested in having sex with someone under 18.
It’s so f~~~ed up.
So again… it’s not really a *moral* issue. It’s a LEGAL issue.
Men who don’t even personally engage in that s~~~, are arrested for no reason and their lives are ruined.
They will attempt to force this *experience* on you – even when you wanted nothing to do with it.MGTOW says “stay the f~~~ out of my personal life and choices”.
I will experience what I choose to experience and entirely make my own choices.
Thereby congratulating myself for my own successes, and paying for my own mistakes. Not anyone else’s.You should put this on the front page.
There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.
One pitfall for young men that older guys must warn them about is “the set-up.” Laydeez are con artists. A year ago my son and I pulled into a parking lot. Suffice it to say her prepositioning/waiting/timing/action/damsal happens to be…, — too. much. of. a. coincidence. Close the door, repark the car, yeah – just a coincidence also.
"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
What learning about MGTOW has done for me is make me aware of what women can do and understanding how to avoid it. I might make mistakes, let some girl mess me around, maybe act a bit of a simp… But it’s a huge learning curve for me and I’ll continue to learn.
I used to want kids when I’m older and maybe even get married, I just grew up thinking that’s what I need to get to but hearing the experiences of those older than me, even my parents and just believing the whole ‘it won’t happen to me’. I just can’t take the risks and for knowing that now rather than later, I’m thankful for MGTOW to exist.
"You can suffer from a life experience, or you can learn, move on and thrive."I agree that encouraging young men to embrace the MGTOW lifestyle may be a little premature move for most . But MGTOW concepts should be shared with young men to open themselves up to their options, counter the dominant gynocentrism, help keep them out of prison and make them aware that women are their competition now. That is what developing into an adult is about, being exposed to ideas and making up your own mind, which is inherent in the MGTOW concept.
The dominant western culture has no problem criminalizing young boys and men, discriminating against them, while uplifting young girls and women. Should we let the young men get burned first and then find out MGTOW is an option, when getting burned can mean being imprisoned and penniless or dead?
Sadly I seem to be a little bit late to the discussion but I want to give my opinion anyways otherwise I might feel regret later on for not doing so.
You know all the talk about young guys or boys not even 14 years old should or should not get the full red pill diluted or not diluted etc made me recall my middle school or I am not sure how it is called over there but school between 12 – 15 years old I was attending a specialized division inside of a school for highly gifted children to teach, the amount of classmates there that have seen horrors that even adults would probably have nightmares about is unimaginable. About 70-80% of the children some of them only 9 years old (skipping 3 classes as I said highly gifted only) were bullied.
Not in the traditional name calling sense no I am talking about physical harm ranging from being beaten up daily to being pulled over the ground and having giant wounds on their backs, social bullying from teachers as well as children ganging up to shame them exile them and even attempt to just flat out ostracize them.
There are many young boys out there who have seen the horrors and need the support that society refuses to give them, for many of them a single person showing them parts of the red pill would have prevented them from being traumatized for life, I think that giving them the red pill and allowing them to grow their own personality could have helped them a lot growing up. Alas I hope I didn’t scare anyone with the s~~~ I wrote down I’m sorry if it did.MGTOW is bedt accepted upon a heart that has been f~~~ed with I can tell you a flame is hot, but once you burn your fingers… then you will believe me.
Mangina and whiteknights are pretty prevalent though and the only thing that has made them is indoctrination by parents and teachers and they seem to be ignoring the fire they have been taught about (it is not a real fire but they believe it is) and they damn well stubborn avoiding it.
It’s a tricky one when considering young lads around 14. You want to help them, and we should help them, but also have to protect them a little from the true horrors.
Thing of it is…at the end of the day. They are still kids, and for the most part they have parent’s who have the last say in what they are exposed to. It’s a tightrope walk between trying to give advice, and leading an “untimely” rebellion. Tough either way you look at it…
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
Young men (between the ages of 12 and 18) have already been screwed over by women/feminism in modern society 🙂 most are raised in single parent homes, by females, without reasonable and healthy access to their father, by a mother who probably initiated the divorce and now lives off alimony and child support – add constant shaming by feminist groups<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>, male bashing by the media (TV shows, advertising, etc), decreasing educational opportunities, and modern young girls (12 to 18) using sex to manipulate and control men, and it’s an obvious choice for intelligent, perceptive young dudes who see that something is seriously wrong – *if* things are going to change for the better, it’s this generation that will create the greatest chance for it to happen: saying no to marriage, choosing career path that *they* want rather then what makes them attractive to the opposite sex, living by their own rules and for themselves, etc 🙂 </span>
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