Enemy in disguise…

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

That is the BS I am facing in that post with a man(gina) with the callsign “Grumpy Old Man”, who says that a MGHOW can be married, and not only that, he say that it is our “failure” as man that made us become MGTOW, since that he is a MGHOW and is HAPPILY MARRIED.

Here it is the link for that thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4ReISodvQw

I believe that his kind of mangina is the worst enemy that we ever face. It is like the “double agent” that US had faced in the Cold War Era.

They are simply the “enemy in disguise”, for they use our name just to fulfill the female agenda, to destroy our image and to shame us all, not only by giving misinformation, but by doing bad acts and saying bad things “in our behalf”.

I don’t know if he is “an old acquaintance” of you, brothers, given that I am new here, but that is the s~~~ that I think that we have to fight the most.
Your “two cents” for “battle tactics” against that type of enemy, or just your thoughts on that are much apreciated.

That kind of mangina just brings back the red pill’s rage in me. Sorry if I am bothering you, brothers, but I think that this kind of problem must be reported to you all.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 29]

If that is the case we may as well tell all hardcore MGTOW men not to f~~~ any more. Stay celibate is that the plan ?

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

My question is.. if you are happily married how would you even really know about the term “MGTOW” …

Also when he finishes eating that shrimp po-boy wouldn’t it technically be considered divorce?

I’ve noticed that people that proclaim how happy they are about something excessively are usually in the first state of Loss and Grief.

1. Denial.

[Anonymous 42]

@DK, I went back and forth with one of them on-tube, Their full their own pride and follow the mangina way. Their arrogant and full of themselves at our expense, but don’t worry, my logic combined the facts decimated his arguments for all the world to see! Only thing is, facts do not enter into the realm of their blue haze thinking. THEIR. NOT. MGTOW! They go whatever way the LAW dictates for them!
Just because they have a wife that doesn’t blow the whistle, doesn’t mean their not holding in the gynocentric traffic pattern. THEY ARE STILL THE SUBJECTS OF GYNOCENTRAILIA, and the legal “property” of their wives.
These f~~~s are dogs wearing a choker that hasn’t ever been pulled, barking and growling while others from their pack hang lifeless from the trees with their chokers fully constricted!
The only way a man can be MGHOW and married is when he seeks to liberate himself from the constricting contract of Gynocentrailias dog pound of marriage!
Ignore them, I’m sure their wives do! That is until they decide on a woman’s whim to yank the choker! Most of them have blue tongs from being choked! They’re obviously blue from the lack of MGTOW oxygen!

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I’m not sure that I understand. A married man wants to be MGHOW. Okay. Let him.

MGTOW Men Going Their Own Way

This is a lifestyle choice that is based in the knowledge that the government, social institutions, individual SJW’s, and women as a whole don’t have men’s best interest at heart. Just the opposite. They seek the destruction of all that is man in so far as our intellectual capacity, money, influence, leadership, etc.

He is going his own way. Just not in the way that you agree with. If he was going your way, then he isn’t going his own way.

A circular argument to be sure, but I challenge you to find fault with it.

I agree that it is at least difficult to be a MGHOW with a woman in tow, which is why I don’t keep one. Let him keep one and let’s see how it turns out.

Who knows, maybe after enough red pills he will file for a divorce. Perhaps “Cheaper To Keep Her”?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Let the damn fool go his own way. His interests do not intersect mine, so I have no skin in his game.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[FermatParticipant 3478]

I agree with Tower. It doesn’t matter uf the guys wife is a souless harpy or a devout pacifist. Once you financially tie yourself to anyone you automatically have start paying for all their stuff and sustaining it. What’s worse is that you have to pretend like it’s in your best interest as well as theres. He may be happily married but I’m sure he has to keep buying and giving her material things to “refeul” the “passion” and keep her around. But as time goes on just being yourself isn’t good enough for a woman. You gave to keep giving and giving and giving be it time or money so she doesn’t leave. Overtime this will desensitize you as a man and make you blind to all the red flags thus deceiving you into thinking your marriage is happy. No thanks. Not the kind of life I want to live.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Anonymous wrote:

If that is the case we may as well tell all hardcore MGTOW men not to f~~~ any more. Stay celibate is that the plan ?

No, brother. They can do everything they want, I am no “king” or “ruler”… That is not my point.

My point is, it does not matter if you are married or not, if you are, good for you, but never say that you are “happily married” and that you are MGHOW. That is a lie!

I know many of us would agree with me that we have just one “rule”, and that rule is “DO NOT MARRY” (or do not feed the State and womens), and I know that many others will disagree with me. I don’t mind that, since we all here came from different backgrounds.

But what I DO mind, is that IF you are a MGTOW, you do NOT advocate in favor of marriage, because YOU KNOW that the marriage system is rigged, and you know better that even if you found the “NAWALT unicorn” and married her, you MUST NOT encourage other young men to jump into the fire because you KNOW that the chances are that they will burn to death inside the marriage fire.

That man is just in contradiction of EVERYTHING I saw here.

My marriage had it’s good moments, everyone here had theirs, but the BAD moments and the bulls~~~, the lies, the s~~~ tests and everything else just OUTNUMBERS the good moments by 100 to 1. And not only that, but if you decide to eject the marriage, you will be RAPED by your ex-wife, the justice system and the State. They WILL get almost everything you have and leave you with just enough for you to keep surviving and working, as the “good wage drone” that you should be.

So, in order for you to actually ENCOURAGE others to jump into the same fire that burned so many men before, you are a completely dishonest person, that knows what you are doing, that knows that you are denigrating a movement and a name, and therefore leading other men to the meat grinder, to pain and suffer and financial rape.

That man can do whatever he want, but he has no right to call himself MGTOW, to say that he is one of us, or that he speak for us.

Anyway, thank you my brother, for your two cents.

It made me realize that my first comment was not only incomplete, but it left open things to misinterpretation.

I hope that this one clarified it all.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 1]

Dark Kenshi wrote:

That is the BS I am facing in that post with a man(gina) with the callsign “Grumpy Old Man”,

He is/was known on youtube for this. Even when the debate of “can be a mgtow be married” was on its peak, this guys was one of the voices spewing this crap. Along with Paul Elam and Rocking MrE, they are tradcons, pure and simple. Let them call themselves whatever the f~~~ they want. That is one of the reasons why I don’t care as much about the “manosphere” on youtube anymore, people are changing their “labels” all the time to try to get popularity. Is like high school again, where you jump on the “latest fad” to try to look “cool”. I remember the time when these same people that are now calling themselves mgtow were the ones saying that mgtows were sociopaths and all kind of s~~~. Their speech is the same, but now they call adopted the label because the name suddenly has an effect. Let them have the name, I want the knowledge…

Anonymous wrote:

If that is the case we may as well tell all hardcore MGTOW men not to f~~~ any more. Stay celibate is that the plan ?

You missed the point. It is not about telling other people, how to act, but being honest with their actions/words. There is nothing we can do about this f~~~ers calling themselves mgtow, but do you really believe a man can go his own way while being married? If so, you need to read more threads. This was already discussed ad nauseous, and the consensus is that a man CANNOT be married and go his own way. A man don’t need to be married to get sex, and some can bypass that all together with porn and other means. But once you signed that contract, or if you put yourself on a situation where you are bound to a woman (co-habitation where co-habitation laws exists), you are no longer “free”.

Are you suggesting a man can be married and mgtow?

I thought that was already cleared out…

[Anonymous 42]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I’m not sure that I understand. A married man wants to be MGHOW. Okay. Let him.

That’s not it at all, He’s walking in a triage with his grenade in hand and chastising all the wounded men that their somehow deficient and at fault for their grenade injuries, telling them it’s OK to play with grenades just BECAUSE HIS DIDN’T EXPLODE……. YET!
It’s cruel to gallop throughout MGTOW on your aberrational unicorn, calling all the men deficient and defective, while they walk alone bleeding from having their faces kicked in my their so called UNICORNS! It’s cruel, sadistic, self exalting, and a landmine to those who know no better.
What the f~~~ are they doing for MGTOW as a community by planting their claymore mines within and throughout?
Come near me with their unicorns and I’ll pop its shoes off, hogtie it, then roast it over an open fire!
SEND THEM HERE WHERE THEY CAN GALLOP AND TROT THEIR UNICORNS ALL THE DAY LONG!

https://www.google.com/search?q=burning+unicorn&biw=1280&bih=597&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIgavI1srExwIVxnM-Ch3glgtJ#tbm=isch&q=unicorn

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I’m not sure that I understand. A married man wants to be MGHOW. Okay. Let him.

MGTOW Men Going Their Own Way

This is a lifestyle choice that is based in the knowledge that the government, social institutions, individual SJW’s, and women as a whole don’t have men’s best interest at heart. Just the opposite. They seek the destruction of all that is man in so far as our intellectual capacity, money, influence, leadership, etc.

He is going his own way. Just not in the way that you agree with. If he was going your way, then he isn’t going his own way.

A circular argument to be sure, but I challenge you to find fault with it.

I agree that it is at least difficult to be a MGHOW with a woman in tow, which is why I don’t keep one. Let him keep one and let’s see how it turns out.

Who knows, maybe after enough red pills he will file for a divorce. Perhaps “Cheaper To Keep Her”?

Doc, like I said, he may go wherever he likes, I don’t care…

But to actually ADVOCATE that “we are not man enough” to “control our marriage” and to say that “marriages are happy, and it is YOUR FAULT if it is not that way”, is not just plain stupid, but it is a lie!

To tell other men to marry, even when you know better that HALF OR MORE of these men WILL get financially and mentally (sometimes physically also) raped, is just wrong, is devious, is the greatest lie ever told, and that came not from a woman mouth and mind, but from a MAN, and one that identifies itself as MGTOW.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s not it at all, He’s walking in a triage with his grenade in hand and chastising all the wounded men that their somehow deficient and at fault for their grenade injuries, telling them it’s OK to play with grenades just BECAUSE HIS DIDN’T EXPLODE……. YET!

Valid.

Dark Kenshi wrote:

But to actually ADVOCATE that “we are not man enough” to “control our marriage” and to say that “marriages are happy, and it is YOUR FAULT if it is not that way”, is not just plain stupid, but it is a lie!

Truth. Or at least truth in so far as my own experience.

See guys. This is what these forums are all about. Healthy debate, education, awareness. This place in an irreplaceable resource.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 1]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

This is a lifestyle choice that is based in the knowledge that the government, social institutions, individual SJW’s, and women as a whole don’t have men’s best interest at heart. Just the opposite. They seek the destruction of all that is man in so far as our intellectual capacity, money, influence, leadership, etc.
He is going his own way. Just not in the way that you agree with. If he was going your way, then he isn’t going his own way.
A circular argument to be sure, but I challenge you to find fault with it.

Challenge Accepted.

Mgtow, as an ideology, is not a fluffy trend like YOLO. It doesn’t mean accept all ways of life regardless of what it is. ALL DECISIONS A MAN MAKES ARE MADE THROUGH HIS OWN FREE WILL. He can choose to follow the law, or break the law, he can choose to WORSHIP PUSSY, or IGNORE IT. All this are HIS OWN WAY. HOWEVER, Mgtow, as defined on this website at least, is the manifestation of the word “NO”. With your definition, than a MALE FEMINIST is a mgtow, the same way a MARRIED MAN is. After all, isn’t that his own choice? If you think that way, I believe AFM is the mgtows you are looking for. Married Mgtow is an oxymoron, they are 2 OPPOSITE IDEAS. If you are married, you are bound to a woman’s will, your way is not yours anymore, but hers, YOU CHOOSE THAT WAY, but that doesn’t mean that the way you are going is YOURS. You decided to give that away to a WOMAN.

Again, this was already discussed… Are we going back to this?!?!

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

I get what DarkKenshi is saying.

I wouldnt waste time on a person who says that its the fault of men that their marriages didnt work out though. He doesnt know their stories so is in no position to comment. Even IF and thats a very big IF he is one of the few who are happily married (grenade hasnt gone off yet or hes in denial more like) then that doesnt have any bearing on the general (not absolute and without exception) fact that marriage doesnt work nowadays and is a waste of time.

Let him say he’s MGTOW all he wants he will only give open minded people more reason to read up on mgtow when they see he’s chatting bs.

I don't need pussy

[Anonymous 1]

@soldier-medic
hahahaha

🙂

[Dark KenshiParticipant 2132]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

See guys. This is what these forums are all about. Healthy debate, education, awareness. This place in an irreplaceable resource.

Thanks, Doc!

No need to bash and hurt our brothers, since we all passed, or saw the s~~~ we all are aware about, and to have to be impolite, or to not be educated among us, is not just absurd, it is a disservice and a great evil to all of us.

We have the power to help us, we have the power to help each and every man in this world, and if we abuse that power, bashing other man which was (or is) wounded and suffered the same abuse that we saw or suffered, then we are no better than the enemy we all fight.

We are the 300… We shield the man at our left from thigh to neck.

"Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

[Anonymous 42]

@BadKan, You’ve never chimed outside the philosophy, like others here, I hold a high regard for for your unwavering opinions!
A true artist with the pallet of MGTOW, I like the pictures you paint, they match reality perfect! We’re on the same frequency, same page, same time, same world, You’re truly a MGTOW brother!
P.S. Medic, you’re funny, the flag is hilarious! I have one of those too!

[The ShrikeParticipant 147]

Guys like this are dangerous. Great for him that he is married and she hasn’t chosen to destroy him. The point he is missing or willfully ignoring is that in the western world it is not his choice. It is hers. Our only and last choice is to not play the game.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

BadKan and Medic, good read. Salute 🙂

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