Emasculation or liberation?

[D-DAY6644Participant 366]

This is another hot potato or pototoe if you’re Danforth Quayle!
This is regarding the feminist or feminist acolyte approach to legal pornography and when I mean pornography I mean hetrosexual pornography, e.g BangBros, EvilAngel, MikeAdriano, those Clip4sale sites dedicated to fetishes, such as limp fetish, damsel in distress etc.. thousands of other sites and those porn models sites, such as Alison Tyler etc..
As a middle age guy, now 47, I have an addiction to this type of internet pornography for more that ten years and to be honest, I don’t really feel comfortable, meaning not only does this become an addiction, it eats into your expenses, its costs can mount up, especially if you purchase 10 clips a month (Clip4sale) or purchase a membership to just two sites, such as BangBros, which is what I usually do, even though this is only temporary (2 months). Objectors to this type of pornography will come out with things such as, that those women and girls who partake/involved in this type of porn were sexually abused as children etc. I don’t know whether this is true or that the feminist sisterhood are trying to make men feel guilty. Another feminist swipe is that the women and girls are exploited etc..So regarding an earlier topic the banning of page 3 in Murdochs British tabloid, The Sun! My opinion is that it is men and boys who are also exploited, and I now believe this to be the case in pornography as well! That men and boys are exploited to become addicted to pornography, where the producers and makers of such a genre make billions of dollars from sex, lust, erotica, smut, or whatever. My questions are to you guys on the MGTOW community: A)Do you believe men and boys are the one’s exploited? B)Is it better to resist watching porn and instead focus on your life, by liberating our selves from such things, and instead focus on more enlightened and positive things in life, such as going to the gym, a walk in the country, listening to folk music in places with like minded people? C)Do you believe pornography corrupts the mind and is a waste of money, money which could be put to better use esle where? D)Or do you think pornography is normal and acceptable and that is either over the top and freedom of choice, and men shoudln’t feel guilty. i.e feel emasculated or shamed into submission to the feminist agenda?

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

You already know all the answers to the questions which matter. Why do you doubt it?

When you ask for advice it means that you already know the answer but wish you didn’t.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 18]

D-DAY6644 wrote:

A)Do you believe men and boys are the one’s exploited?

Misguided perhaps but not exploited. Porn allows women to earn money and men to get off on that. The producers/film makers are middle men that take a cut. Online porn is free mostly and with ad-blocks what revenue they get from ads or injecting malware on user PC’s seems to diminish the profits.

D-DAY6644 wrote:

B)Is it better to resist watching porn and instead focus on your life, by liberating our selves from such things, and instead focus on more enlightened and positive things in life, such as going to the gym, a walk in the country, listening to folk music in places with like minded people?

Porn, online dating, online chatrooms are refuge of sorts. They do not grow a person but rather stifle their growth. As @gnostic said you already know the answer to these.

D-DAY6644 wrote:

C)Do you believe pornography corrupts the mind and is a waste of money, money which could be put to better use esle where?

A good wank is a good wank. How you go about your fix (porn, dating women, prostitutes for hire) is your call. So long you can walk away from it and focus on your life until the desire to choke the chicken arises. Anything other than that is you slaving to the sexual desires. And pussy idolization.

D-DAY6644 wrote:

D)Or do you think pornography is normal and acceptable and that is either over the top and freedom of choice, and men shoudln’t feel guilty. i.e feel emasculated or shamed into submission to the feminist agenda?

Pornography is not normal. But the society is getting uber sexualized that its getting harder to determine the negative effects of it all. One needs to stop watching TV for a bit and come back to it – its quite evident how desensitized one gets watching that junk on TV. Same goes for porn.

[Anonymous 0]

Lemme see now.
New member asking loaded questions like a certain British reporter we all know.
Wants us as MGTOWs to state an opinion on his word alone.
I will wait and see more posts but I am one inch from pressing the Bulls~~~ Genie button.

[Anonymous 54]

Anonymous wrote:

Lemme see now.
New member asking loaded questions like a certain British reporter we all know.
Wants us as MGTOWs to state an opinion on his word alone.
I will wait and see more posts but I am one inch from pressing the Bulls~~~ Genie button.

with ya. guy addictedto porn ask this question.?

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings DD,

Anonymous wrote:

A good wank is a good wank.

Agreed.

Anonymous wrote:

like a certain British reporter

The answer comes from the the British “Empire on which the son never sets.”

Too much “wanking off” turns some men into “SOPPY WANKERS.”

Furthermore, porn addiction can be a real problem for some men. NoFap is a good solution:

https://www.nofap.com/about/

Here is my post about the Power of Celibacy:

/forums/topic/the-power-of-celibacy/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 54]

God I hate sneaks.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Anonymous wrote:

Lemme see now.
New member asking loaded questions like a certain British reporter we all know.
Wants us as MGTOWs to state an opinion on his word alone.
I will wait and see more posts but I am one inch from pressing the Bulls~~~ Genie button.

Yea, I’m kinda with you M52. This guy would know the answers to his questions if he spent a couple of days reading.

D-day, continue to give yourself money shots if that’s what makes you happy.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Anonymous 54]

DEFEND YOURSELF MAN!

[HitmanParticipant]

the fish smell might be a guy who is very new and jumped too deep in to the pool..
or it just might be a fish..
.
i hope this “guy”.will respond and make me understand why i should answer that ..
.

[Anonymous 54]

A guy addicted to porn starts with a Dan Qaule joke?

Worries about male victoms? no.

A 47 yeal old man . no.

[Anonymous 54]

Damn it!Sister,you come on here and want to f~~~ with Men ,portraying yourselfe as a Man. Yet when I DEMAND you to deal with me MAN TO MAN,you run away. You are a WEAK WOMEN. You could never EVER be my equal.

[Anonymous 54]

This is a 47 year old liberal women. The Dan Quail joke is about bad spelling. FEMALE. Females have lists of questions,that cant be aswered with makeing yourself look bad. Hey girl. Your 5’5 breunett. 147 pounds.

DO MY WORDS SPOOK YOU?

GET OUT!

I can put a curse on you.

[RedRojasParticipant 559]

going to the gym, a walk in the country, listening to folk music in places with like minded people?

These sound like things my sister would definitely be into.

My questions are to you guys on the MGTOW community: A)Do you believe men and boys are the one’s exploited? B)Is it better to resist watching porn and instead focus on your life, by liberating our selves from such things, and instead focus on more enlightened and positive things in life, such as going to the gym, a walk in the country, listening to folk music in places with like minded people? C)Do you believe pornography corrupts the mind and is a waste of money, money which could be put to better use esle where? D)Or do you think pornography is normal and acceptable and that is either over the top and freedom of choice, and men shoudln’t feel guilty. i.e feel emasculated or shamed into submission to the feminist agenda?

It sounds like you wanna lead us into some form of action / campaign against the porn industry. Are you jealous that men can get sexual gratification without actually needing a woman around? Or are you just jealous of all the attention these female porn stars get from their male audience? Nice try.

Consistency is victory - Ultra Magnus

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hey DD,

Introductions are about you, your life, how you came to MGTOW consciousness, what your Red Pills were, how you got rid of the parasites, and where are you on the MGTOW road.

You screwed up the Introduction, but you can fix it tomorrow by adding more personal information as suggested above by writing in the empty reply box below.

The thought-provoking replies in this Introduction has involved other MGTOWs and it is now an interesting part of our content. You have provided a great teaching opportunity for other newly awakened men. And many of us learn more from mistakes rather than perfect examples.

Also, you now have an opportunity at redemption here. Everyone makes mistakes. But, getting up and trying it again takes big b~~~~.

When I first found MGTOW, it hit me like a Hurricane. The stories on this web site brought to the surface material that was buried deep in my subconscious. The words and Ideas here provided clarity to the unimagined real s~~~ that has been happening to me. There were primal forces which compelled me to tell my story without a sober examination of MGTOW codes of behavior.

D-DAY6644 wrote:

As a middle age guy, now 47, I have an addiction to this type of internet pornography for more than ten years and to be honest,

It would have been better to post this topic later in the “Health & Fitness” section of the Forums after you made a proper Introduction. Your obvious errors would have been better addressed in other parts of the Forums.

D-DAY6644 wrote:

women and girls who partake/involved in this type of porn were sexually abused as children etc. …. women and girls are exploited

Here is a tip for anyone new to MGTOW writing his first Introduction or Post:

Do NOT write about Feminists ideology or “woman’s abuse” here on MGTOW.

Some of those words you used have been involved with the extraction of tremendous amounts of “cash and prizes” from most of us men who have just been freed from the plantation. Some of us have done real Jail time and lost our jobs, community, and children because women liars used those same words.

“My give a damn got broke” with spending a lifetime solving women’s problems. I’m done.

Women have already taken up too much of my life demanding attention, and I would like the rest of it to be C~~~ free.

D-DAY6644 wrote:

My questions are to you guys on the MGTOW community

You f~~~ed up again DD.

That language you used suggestions that you are NOT MGTOW or on the MGTOW road.

You must now “grow a pair” by establishing your Bonafides as recommended at the beginning of my reply.

Some of us understand the effects of addiction to internet porn which causes a man to exhibit pusillanimous behavior. So, try to fight off any shame, embarrassment, or anger.

After you are done sleeping, which was a result of your last internet porn wank, step out into the MGTOW community and the light of reason. I look forward to your reply DD.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 16]

Me im in monk mode.
After a wife 14 years and 4 short “relations” i learned the truth about how things work this days.
Most of time i find porn disgusting becouse it reminds me of EWALT (Enough Women Are Like That). Actually sexual encounters in Porn industry migth be healthy than real life, couse correct me if im wrong but i think they get tested for STD a lot. I read they need to get blood test for HIV every 30 days.
They have a high rate of infections by chlamidia and gonorrhea but at least those can be cured. ohhh well look like dating a porn actres is healthier than dating plain Jane.
THE MORE YOU KNOW.

Im out i wont play this sick game.

Now going to super market to buy TUNA for breakfast.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Still laughing.

A digital and no delay tuna alarm reaction. Perfect.

If tuna is here somewhere, and I bet there is more tuna on the passive side…

There are two simple answers.

If most women would take a shower more often, we would not call them “tuna” and we might even have some appetite for “the real thing”.

If most women would behave like human beings and not like entitled prison guards, maybe more men would stop consuming porn and actually living with a lady in real life.

Whatever a man spends on any porn site will not even reach 0.000001 percent of what a real woman would screw him over in court.

Is is like comparing the price of a bus ticket with the running costs of an entire city bus enterprise.

Porn addiction? OMG. Over many years, I spent 2000 Euro a month on music CD’s an LP’s and it was still cheaper than any divorce would have been…

These CD’s an LP’s even increased in value by now.

But investing in “pussy” is like going long on the now plummeting “Pussy Stock”.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[D-DAY6644Participant 366]

Hi MM
Well if it isn’t too inconvenient to mention this, I forgot to tick the (Notify me of follow-up replies via email) and having pressing commitments to a very sick relative. As someone mentioned, we make mistakes, I’m not perfect, nobody is, however I apologise for not replying soon enough to you and all the other replies!
I feel s~~~ty that I didn’t really introduce myself and didn’t give insight into my life and why I wanted to go with MGTOW, that I have jumped the gun by focusing on such a topic. I’ll reply in due course to others criticism and cynical suspicions about me or my intentions for joining MGTOW. I didn’t join MGTOW to undermine, but to come on here and express my male anxieties, beliefs and to try and contribute and focus on certain issues which cloud thinking and obstacles on going on a path that emboldens men’s understanding of going it alone, without the feeling of wanting anyone’s approval, especially female.
For your info and the rest, I’m a bona fide male, not some one pretending to be male, and I am 47, a manual worker, who also knows about PC repairs, has interests, I do like hiking and folk music, they may be geeky to some or not manly pursuits, but then again going back to myself, maybe these could be passive things, you learn as you go along, but if it is of importance regarding my life, that I had a rather s~~~ty childhood, an abusive violent father, as you know you can’t fight back when your a child, and hen pecked by my mother and sister, because as I have learnt in therapy, they couldn’t stand up to my father so they took their anger out on me. Tough s~~~ you say, a bad childhood can screw up your mind, but I’ve battled away in this every increasing feminised world, with each passing year and decade I’ve seen the scales tipped against men.
So I want to make a mark for myself and to better myself, to forget my bad childhood and move on and focus on giving advice to other men who might have had the same experiences and learn from others, to go on the MGTOW path and hear advice from the hard core veterans. I’m only a new recruit, a rookie, I have to break and settle in and get accustomed to this community, and eventually feel as though I belong here, rather than someone speaking from the outside and not feeling welcomed.
The questions which I put on the earlier topic, were genuine, the Dan Quayle quip wasn’t intended as some sort of hidden male bash, I could have said something regarding Sarah Palin and rightly so, but in future I’ll be careful. When I read some replies that I had answered my own questions, I was confused, I didn’t set out to act like some sort of moron or charlatan, pretending or if I knew the bleeding obvious, it was series of questions, maybe insecurities, and insecurities are the reason for asking for other opinions and advice, not for confusing put downs, which only cloud answers to questions that we like to ask, I don’t go out of my way or to waste my time or anyone’s else’s for that matter, I ask question even if they seem audacious or even suspicious, but my motives aren’t to rock the apple cart but to try and garner knowledge and understanding. You mentioned about my absence, my reasons in the beginning of this reply are also genuine, I wouldn’t want waste my life on internet porn wank, I’m trying to escape from that s~~~, become f**king celibate, take Bromide or whatever, I even thought of monastic life, anything to escape the s~~~ I mentioned in my previous topic, I hate myself for being a sucker to porn, but whatever your opinions on porn, the guilt thing is bollocks, as all HUMANS have desires, lusts, cravings for sex and fetishes, its just that other people are hypocrites and to make others feel guilty about their sexual preferences, that’s were the emasculation came in, the emasculation of a mans right to have sexual thoughts and feelings and their freedom to access porn, even though some want to resist watching porn. I don’t feel porn is wrong, but that I don’t want to be suckered into porn anymore. I hope Old Sage read this and the others who have replied, I’ll reply to you in due course, but I will end it there for now!

[Anonymous 54]

Read it.This sounds Male.Good luck over comeing your addiction.

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

Look it is natural for you to use porn as an avenue to escape having women for sex because you know it will be bad for you to hook up with them. Masturbation in this situation is natural and men are wired for visual stimulation it helps you get off quicker. Moderation is key you don’t need to watch porn numerous times a day. Also the health benefits of masturbation is proven as your prostate needs to work on a regular basis to avoid prostate cancer and is also good for your mental health as you will be more productive and not thinking about sex if you become a monk.

Regardless of what is said a lot of us are suspicious of new members because females cannot understand that this space is male only and have to try to infiltrate our ranks in order to spread their poison in here. If you are indeed a man I welcome you and please try to understand where we are coming from.

This message is to all the females, if you try to come in here and pose as a male you will eventually be caught and thrown out you will not be able to hide your identity from us.

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