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Curious if anyone here has ever been “rewarded” or “recognized” for kind considerate or otherwise noble actions (or inaction’s) towards a women.
I was looking through Facebook and came across this girl I knew from the past. We “dated” for a 4-5-6 weeks or so. She was a virgin. I used to go over to her house and make out with her. Feel her up etc.
I didn’t want to pop her cherry because I had no intention of staying with her afterwards. I didn’t want to “dishonor” her. So I did the “right thing”, and broke up with her. I explained my reasons.
She was 18 in high school super skinny and had a super tight pussy. It would grip around my finger like concrete. If I would have smashed it (assuming I could even get it in) her bedroom would have looked like a crime scene.
I explained to her I was doing the “right thing” and she deserved a guy as her first who would love her and commit to her and marry her.
Years later she’s dabbled in lesbianism threesomes and gotten smashed by one dude after the next. If her life was a photo album, it’s one guy, after another, after another, after another, after another, ad infinitum.
I often wonder how women like this can live with their conscience and and still claim to be “looking for love” or have any sort of “pure intentions”. Let alone be worth anything to a man.
Anyways: I’m wondering if anyone here has ever been “recognized” for any kind of sacrifice or honorable or considerate or noble actions with a women of any sort. Even if it’s just a thank you for being a positive or supporting influence in her life. Or was it all in vain?
I wanted to smash that virgin pussy hard.
Anonymous42Doing the right thing with women
I’m not worried about doing the “right thing” with modern women, they already know their place…
When I was a wee young beer I thought I’d find “the one,” a true unicorn, so proceeded through life being a nice guy thinking I’d find a nice girl, I got ridiculed by women for it far more than praised.
In my mind, I’d love to have met a girl that was a virgin that hadn’t already started running up the c~~~ count, so I thought when you were getting to know a girl if you said you were a virgin that wouldn’t be a bad thing. More or less I thought it was the exact same mind set that if I keep myself fit, I’d like to find a partner who does the same…I wouldn’t let myself get obese and expect to land a fit chick. No way…the ridicule from women for being a virgin begins the second they lose their virginity.
Apparently they approve if you politely tell them “I’m a Chad that will pump and dump you,” but if you are truly a nice guy looking for a good girl they think you are a creep. Oh well…no hymen no diamond from this guy, sorry sluts!
the ridicule from women for being a virgin begins the second they lose their virginity.
I guess they are jealous that they lost theirs and you still have yours. Also you can tell if they got smashed by a hump-n-dump Chad or a “nice guy” by the intensity of their ridicule.
Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.
Anonymous3Michael,
I have been thinking much lately about the issue of “noble actions”, “sacrifice”, “consideration”, or whatever we want to call when someone refrains to do what he wants to do what is right.I think men have an evolutionary need to behave with some kind of moral or ethical code, intrinsic or societal. That is because men have physical power, and someone with power needs to constrain itself and not act upon his wants/desires/urges/feelings. Sex is a clear example, if men had no inner restrain how many woman would escape forced sex from every men? We all know the power of our sexual drive! It would be like a kids on candy land!
Women on the other hand have no such need for restrain, since they were powerless. Their actions would be for survival, therefore their instincts is to go where the resources look better. This means that most of their “feelings” (we could call them instincts), are more in the line of self-serving interest, and therefore any restrain is actually harmful.
Most men are usually more considerate to other people than women are. Conversations with my wife are a eye opener is this sense. There is no single person, man, woman or kid that she will remain positive about. The longer she deals with someone, the worst it gets! I simply recognize that a person in not compatible with me and retain the appropriate distance conforming to our differences. She is all in or all out.
As for “sacrifice”, beware of any such thing made by a woman. She will use it for the rest of your life to get things the way she wants. You will end up paying for her “sacrifice” 100 times. And she will not think for a minute about YOUR sacrifices.
Men are handicapped by these ethical/moral restrictions when dealing with women. We feel for others and act upon it. Women feel for themselves and act on it.
I guess they are jealous that they lost theirs and you still have yours. Also you can tell if they got smashed by a hump-n-dump Chad or a “nice guy” by the intensity of their ridicule.
I just started asking girls how many c~~~s they’ve had before I f~~~ em. You don’t even really need an answer from them, a reaction alone tells you if its a disgustingly high number or not.
I’ve been ‘doing the right thing with women’ for the last 15 years on a relationship basis. Ignored them.
Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.
I’ve had that department covered ever since I implemented the “Wall of Silence”.
Michael,
I have been thinking much lately about the issue of “noble actions”, “sacrifice”, “consideration”, or whatever we want to call when someone refrains to do what he wants to do what is right.I think men have an evolutionary need to behave with some kind of moral or ethical code, intrinsic or societal. That is because men have physical power, and someone with power needs to constrain itself and not act upon his wants/desires/urges/feelings. Sex is a clear example, if men had no inner restrain how many woman would escape forced sex from every men? We all know the power of our sexual drive! It would be like a kids on candy land!
Women on the other hand have no such need for restrain, since they were powerless. Their actions would be for survival, therefore their instincts is to go where the resources look better. This means that most of their “feelings” (we could call them instincts), are more in the line of self-serving interest, and therefore any restrain is actually harmful.
Most men are usually more considerate to other people than women are. Conversations with my wife are a eye opener is this sense. There is no single person, man, woman or kid that she will remain positive about. The longer she deals with someone, the worst it gets! I simply recognize that a person in not compatible with me and retain the appropriate distance conforming to our differences. She is all in or all out.
As for “sacrifice”, beware of any such thing made by a woman. She will use it for the rest of your life to get things the way she wants. You will end up paying for her “sacrifice” 100 times. And she will not think for a minute about YOUR sacrifices.
Men are handicapped by these ethical/moral restrictions when dealing with women. We feel for others and act upon it. Women feel for themselves and act on it.
That’s cool. Women used to be considerate and self sacrificing to their families though…
I think its better to do the right thing for yourself.
Including keeping in mind that women are a hazard and a hassle
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
I think its better to do the right thing for yourself.
Including keeping in mind that women are a hazard and a hassle
That’s what I was about to say. This whole thread seemed to have a really odd tone to it.
are you a chia pet in man drag I agree.Something strange.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
@michael “Our parents came from a different era. My mother dated and married my father when she was young (dated at 19, married at 21 had me at 26). My mother is an angel sent from heaven and is literally the last pure hearted loving caring kind white women left in the United States. This is the fundamental example we were raised with.”
^^^ “his” recent activity.
I smell some f~~~ing tuna, I’m on to you Michael. Get off my f~~~ing “safe space” my eyes are on you now, I am an infiltrator sniffer dog and the way you convey yourself is suspect to me. I see you trying to pull that “white cis genedered male” BS here and I’m not even white, but race does not (and should not) matter to any true MGTOW, yet you had to add all that in didn’t you? What are you trying to do? Find out if you’d get a bunch of praise/stars for that remark? Then go report to your feminazis how you’re all right about us and that we’re nothing but misogynists? This isn’t an attack, just a heads up that you have a bloodhound sniffing around. If you are a male cut out your racist crap.
Everyone knows our Mothers are no better than the women we f~~~, female nature takes no prisoners. I haven’t ever heard of a single MGTOW ever PRAISING there mother, and believe me I am keen on EVERY MGTOW man of note. I ingest this s~~~ like food and water, it is never ending for me, I will become a MGTOW master in time.
More editing: Interesting… Now I can’t even see your recent activity anymore. Trying to cover some tracks? You have everyone else fooled perhaps, but I see your lackluster replies and emoticons you use to display your emotion rather than well thought out words. You’ll escape with this for now “sir” carry on, just don’t think you’re under the radar completely.
I didn’t want to pop her cherry because I had no intention of staying with her afterwards. I didn’t want to “dishonor” her. So I did the “right thing”, and broke up with her. I explained my reasons.
I’ve been there and NO they don’t forget you.
I always treated women very well. Sometimes far TOO well. Spoiled them (i.e attention and politesse), really. Worst thing you can do. But it’s good, because you stand out.
Even the ones that I didn’t treat special at all, they remember, because so many guys don’t treat them well at all. So even a neutral guy with basic manners and decency can stand out from the crowd.
But then again, I cared too much about “making a good impression”.
That’s how I live with myself.Now, I don’t treat women better than they deserve anymore.
I treat them according to their OWN BEHAVIOR.It’s the only barometer, really.
But women definitely have amnesia about their own behavior.
“rewarded” or “recognized” for kind considerate or otherwise noble actions
The reward comes later — after she married someone ELSE.
I think expecting reward or recognition in exchange for good treatment of others is doing it for the wrong reasons. You didn’t do it for the “reward”. You did it because you believed it was the right thing to do.
Reward YOURSELF for that. Because a woman never will.
They already think they are entitled to special treatment.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Michael,
I have been thinking much lately about the issue of “noble actions”, “sacrifice”, “consideration”, or whatever we want to call when someone refrains to do what he wants to do what is right.I think men have an evolutionary need to behave with some kind of moral or ethical code, intrinsic or societal. That is because men have physical power, and someone with power needs to constrain itself and not act upon his wants/desires/urges/feelings. Sex is a clear example, if men had no inner restrain how many woman would escape forced sex from every men? We all know the power of our sexual drive! It would be like a kids on candy land!
Women on the other hand have no such need for restrain, since they were powerless. Their actions would be for survival, therefore their instincts is to go where the resources look better. This means that most of their “feelings” (we could call them instincts), are more in the line of self-serving interest, and therefore any restrain is actually harmful.
Most men are usually more considerate to other people than women are. Conversations with my wife are a eye opener is this sense. There is no single person, man, woman or kid that she will remain positive about. The longer she deals with someone, the worst it gets! I simply recognize that a person in not compatible with me and retain the appropriate distance conforming to our differences. She is all in or all out.
As for “sacrifice”, beware of any such thing made by a woman. She will use it for the rest of your life to get things the way she wants. You will end up paying for her “sacrifice” 100 times. And she will not think for a minute about YOUR sacrifices.
Men are handicapped by these ethical/moral restrictions when dealing with women. We feel for others and act upon it. Women feel for themselves and act on it.
That’s cool. Women used to be considerate and self sacrificing to their families though…
Is that so? By staying at home and cooking/cleaning right? Very interesting, I wish I could do bitch work all day and be well taken care of.
I agree.Something strange.
I’m not seeing anything wrong. Am I missing something?
Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.
@bestieboy666 read between the lines of what Michael is saying, you may not see it but it is there. I could outline it for you if you’d like. All you have to do is scroll up and go into the chat.
Edit: I wouldn’t be getting this riled up if I didn’t think it were true and @michael if I am wrong feel free to prove it. No photos needed as I know we MGTOW like to stay anonymous, but you’re a MGTOW man. I’m sure you can prove it in some way within the next 5 minutes.
Anonymous3Michael,
I have been thinking much lately about the issue of “noble actions”, “sacrifice”, “consideration”, or whatever we want to call when someone refrains to do what he wants to do what is right.I think men have an evolutionary need to behave with some kind of moral or ethical code, intrinsic or societal. That is because men have physical power, and someone with power needs to constrain itself and not act upon his wants/desires/urges/feelings. Sex is a clear example, if men had no inner restrain how many woman would escape forced sex from every men? We all know the power of our sexual drive! It would be like a kids on candy land!
Women on the other hand have no such need for restrain, since they were powerless. Their actions would be for survival, therefore their instincts is to go where the resources look better. This means that most of their “feelings” (we could call them instincts), are more in the line of self-serving interest, and therefore any restrain is actually harmful.
Most men are usually more considerate to other people than women are. Conversations with my wife are a eye opener is this sense. There is no single person, man, woman or kid that she will remain positive about. The longer she deals with someone, the worst it gets! I simply recognize that a person in not compatible with me and retain the appropriate distance conforming to our differences. She is all in or all out.
As for “sacrifice”, beware of any such thing made by a woman. She will use it for the rest of your life to get things the way she wants. You will end up paying for her “sacrifice” 100 times. And she will not think for a minute about YOUR sacrifices.
Men are handicapped by these ethical/moral restrictions when dealing with women. We feel for others and act upon it. Women feel for themselves and act on it.
That’s cool. Women used to be considerate and self sacrificing to their families though…
Are you asking or implying that women are the sacrificing part on any relationship?
That would be really a strange proposition to hold after living with one for some time…I can attest personally as for how much “self sacrificing” women are. My dear wife would have my toddler daughter in the smoking seats of airplanes. Nowadays – since smoking is no longer allowed – there is no problem in holding 2 hours without smoking… Now, imagine if I was to do this?
I had the blunt of all the work with my kids, from bathing to feeding. I am the one keeping the house in order and for some years I was cleaning the house as well. This while “helping” my wife in her own job, and doing my own job at the same time. How much “sacrifice” is there for my wife?
This “self sacrificing” myth is exactly what I am talking about when I say a man “will end up paying for her sacrifice 100 times”. If a woman does something for family is is a “huge sacrifice”, that is used to put the man under emotional ransom. A man sacrifices itself: its normal!
Again an example from my own life: we once made a big family decision together. It involved moving to another town, and I thought we had made the decision together based on objective life choices, better income and security. Later the whole thing was reinterpreted as a “huge sacrifice” that my wife had done for me, for the sake of my job, so that I had “no reason for regrets in the future”. You do not have any idea how many times this was used against me for whatever unrelated reason. And it worked as an emotional weapon because I would never voluntarily sacrifice my wife on anything! So she had to twist the arguments before and after the decision, getting the good part of the deal and emotional leverage simultaneously.
THAT is how women take advantage of men’s good intentions: with deceitful emotional manipulations to get what they want.
@michael “Our parents came from a different era. My mother dated and married my father when she was young (dated at 19, married at 21 had me at 26). My mother is an angel sent from heaven and is literally the last pure hearted loving caring kind white women left in the United States. This is the fundamental example we were raised with.”
^^^ “his” recent activity.
I smell some f~~~ing tuna, I’m on to you Michael. Get off my f~~~ing “safe space” my eyes are on you now, I am an infiltrator sniffer dog and the way you convey yourself is suspect to me. I see you trying to pull that “white cis genedered male” BS here and I’m not even white, but race does not (and should not) matter to any true MGTOW, yet you had to add all that in didn’t you? What are you trying to do? Find out if you’d get a bunch of praise/stars for that remark? Then go report to your feminazis how you’re all right about us and that we’re nothing but misogynists? This isn’t an attack, just a heads up that you have a bloodhound sniffing around. If you are a male cut out your racist crap.
Everyone knows our Mothers are no better than the women we f~~~, female nature takes no prisoners. I haven’t ever heard of a single MGTOW ever PRAISING there mother, and believe me I am keen on EVERY MGTOW man of note. I ingest this s~~~ like food and water, it is never ending for me, I will become a MGTOW master in time.
More editing: Interesting… Now I can’t even see your recent activity anymore. Trying to cover some tracks? You have everyone else fooled perhaps, but I see your lackluster replies and emoticons you use to display your emotion rather than well thought out words. You’ll escape with this for now “sir” carry on, just don’t think you’re under the radar completely.
Yes. I said that. So what? What’s your point. And what kind of “Tuna” do you smell?
And yes. That’s correct. I had to add all that in. So what? Are you implying I should not have a right to express anything race related or be chastised for it and dance around like water on a hot frying pan simply because I’m white?
If you know anything about History you know that a thriving patriarchy existed in America for most of it’s history and prior to the immigration act of 1965 the United States was also predominantly white.
There was no MGTOW during those days because there was no reason to be MGTOW. That’s because there was no real feminism. Women were women. Men were men. Women knew their rightful place in society. Specifically in the home and community. Women were housewives. Men were responsible for working and taking care of their family. If a mans wife had to work it was “embarrassing” to other men because it meant he was lacking as a man in the finance department. I could go on and on but generally speaking, from what I can see, this balance worked until things started changing.
Social shaming works too. Positively or negatively. That’s why less than 1/10 women in the mid 20th century were single moms or had children born out of wedlock. My point is things were better. That’s simply a fact. Just research the historical facts/statistics for proof.
Divorce was actually considered a dirty word. Adultery was considered more of a reputation destroyer. Marriage was a common law contract and no-fault divorce did not exist. For the most part none of the immoral and downright criminal way men are treated in today’s society by women even existed.
Everyone knows our Mothers are no better than the women we f~~~, female nature takes no prisoners. I haven’t ever heard of a single MGTOW ever PRAISING there mother, and believe me I am keen on EVERY MGTOW man of note
Maybe that’s your experience based on your Mom and MGTOW. Sorry about that pal. Thank God it’s not mine. I was extremely lucky to be raised by perfect Mom and Dad with a perfect childhood in an upper middle class community. Thank God.
I am not a tuna fish. I just don’t see women as the sole problem. I see the entire direction of Western society since the mid 20th century as the problem, leading up to what we have today…
Anonymous3Women used to be considerate and self sacrificing to their families though…
Another female trick: they consider “family” to be all about themselves. Sacrificing for family becomes totally different then, doesn’t it?
Lets say the husband wants a new car, like the Volvo he dreamed about when he was young: that is a selfish desire that harms family resources. But lets say the wife wants a new couch to replace the perfectly good couch we already have. That is a family issue.
The wife considers her field to be the house, furniture, decoration, kids, clothing, friends, acquaintances… Just about everything has be according to her wishes! That is because these things play a part in her female game plan of showing off for others. But her trick is to consider these to be “family” things. So, sacrificing to get things the way she wants gets twisted as sacrificing for family.
The truth is that the wife would be sacrificing herself by not buying the new couch! And that is something she is incapable of doing.
I just don’t see women as the sole problem. I see the entire direction of Western society since the mid 20th century as the problem, leading up to what we have today.
That is an interesting concept. And we where talking about biological traits that explain the problem you described on your original post… I fail to see how it was better in the time period you refer. Its the same biology!
To some extent it would be worst, because husband and wife would be permanently locked in a miserable marriage without chance to escape.- AuthorPosts
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