Does MGTOW mean hetereosexual men only? I am just pondering something.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I am heterosexual.  That is not why I am asking this.  It is just that it is avoiding women, and not getting married to them.  It can vary from celibacy to said “pump and dump”.  It can also mean avoiding women completely.  The focus is avoiding a partner relationship.

So, what does that make for a gay men?  Does a gay man not have a partnership with another man, or they do?  Or is MGTOW something that doesn’t fit gay men?

In trying to look up stuff on the movie Frozen, I ran into an asexual site, and then I was wondering about homosexuals.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Don’t think it matters. We have a guy here who lives with or maybe married to a ladyboy.

Gays can get married and put through the divorce system now.

They are men …. and they can … if they wish … go there own way.

However, I would think that it’s even harder for them to unplug as they have more rights and than hetro men.

Thee ‘system’ weights much more in their favour.

Just m2c

 

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I cant speak for anyone else, but this s~~~ disturbs me. PLEASE dont tell me I will be banned from here for being “intolerant” because I dislike homosexuality, in nature.

 

Becoming homosexual is NOT the logical consequence of realising women are irrational. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature. No two homosexuals can reproduce: blame NATURE not me.

Dont call me a biggot, come back with a logical argument.

Resident cynic.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

<span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>I cant speak for anyone else, but this s~~~ disturbs me. PLEASE dont tell me I will be banned from here for being “intolerant” because I dislike homosexuality, in nature. Becoming homosexual is NOT the logical consequence of realising women are irrational. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature. No two homosexuals can reproduce: blame NATURE not me. Dont call me a biggot, come back with a logical argument.

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I fully understand how you feel. However, it may be a perversion but … well nature does that now and then.

Should it not be a perversion of nature and some other act/choice/teaching … well what should one do about that?

It has been around before the Greeks. It’s been illegal. It’s been cast down by the church etc etc

But yet here it still is. I don’t know about you but that sure sounds like nature giving the finger if you ask me.

It’s not for me to judge others in these matters. I don’t have nor want the authority.

 

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I cant speak for anyone else, but this s~~~ disturbs me. PLEASE dont tell me I will be banned from here for being “intolerant” because I dislike homosexuality, in nature. Becoming homosexual is NOT the logical consequence of realising women are irrational. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature. No two homosexuals can reproduce: blame NATURE not me. Dont call me a biggot, come back with a logical argument.

I think if you end up undermining MGTOW here, or end up NOT being a man and joining, that can get you banned (the second one particularly).  I am not sure your view is a problem.  I only asked it because I am trying to see what the perception of MGTOW is.  I would presume a homosexual man going his own way wouldn’t have any sort of lasting partnership with another man.  Of course, my take is going one’s own way is the top aspect of MGTOW, as far as being useful, so I have my biases.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Darth SinParticipant 576]

MGTOW is for the male sex, regardless of their sexual orientation.

One has to remember that even men with heterosexual tendencies such as bisexual men and homosexual men are still slaves to gynocentrism. One still has to remember that gay men still white knight for wenches and play the part of Captain Save-A-Hoe or Mr. Emotional Tampon for them.

MGTOW is about freeing the male sex from such primitive shackles by understanding the realities of the world. As such, it applies and can work for the entirety of male sex.

I doubt that MGTOW applies to or can work for transsexuals and transgenders though, simply because MGTOWs deal with biological realities that these groups of people do not like to.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

I cant speak for ANY other MGTOW, nor do I intend to. I can only speak for myself, and I am NOT for:

man on man blow jobs

man on anal sex

or ANY man on male sexual act.

 

I would HATE the notion that because MGTOW (recognising female irrationality) would somehow lead to homosexuality.

NOT. MY. THING.

 

If Im wrong, then let me know and Im out (lol).

Resident cynic.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I don’t see why gay men would go MGTOW. They may be sympathizers. They may say women are cruel to straight men. One thing gay men really like is other men, even if they’re straight. They’ll protect a man and everything. Men protect, that’s what they do, homosexuality doesn’t change this. Still, what way are they going should they go MGTOW? They’re gay, so they’ll do the gay thing and inherently their not involved with women. They can sympathize and help straight men out, even MGTOW men, but they can’t really be going MGTOW because they lack the necessary orientation. I would be interested in any insights they may provide.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

I cant speak for ANY other MGTOW, nor do I intend to. I can only speak for myself, and I am NOT for: man on man blow jobs man on anal sex or ANY man on male sexual act. I would HATE the notion that because MGTOW (recognising female irrationality) would somehow lead to homosexuality. NOT. MY. THING. If Im wrong, then let me know and Im out (lol).

There is no right or wrong here. Just opinions.

This is exactly why you shouldn’t be ‘out’ ….. because we are men … we talk, debate and rationalise.

We are NOT women who would decend in to all sorts of bitching.

We’re not all the same. We have different backgrounds, teachings, religions etc ….. but we are men and as such hold our ideals.

So no … don’t f~~~ off … that’s not fair to anyone. You bloody stay here and continue your path … and share your thoughts and wisdom … because you’re a man.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Maybe some gay men, who happen to wander onto this forum, can end up speaking to what they see MGTOW has.  I just have to wonder, because there is a framework I understand MGTOW that works with hetereosexuality, but gets thrown out the window when you end up not having sexuality framed in the context of a man and a woman.

The core I see MGTOW is that it involves being single, and not having any partnerships that are lasting with anyone.  From this, you end up going your own way and not seek to be tied down or defined by any external connections to other people you didn’t choose.  I see this at the core, with the whole gynocentrism problem driving heterosexual men into going their own way, due to how bad it has driven things.  But, my way I see it is framed around an entirely different context of liberation, and not just a battle against gynocentrism.  I am seeing a LOT of systems that seek to harm men, not just gynocentrism.  I would say all existence seeks to kill off men.  Men just happen to, due to biological drive, want to protect their women from these factors.  Gyoncentrism/feminism now sought, for the sake of power, to remove these, and liberate women, and thus they get harmed.  And men also get harmed even more.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Maybe some gay men, who happen to wander onto this forum, can end up speaking to what they see MGTOW has. I just have to wonder, because there is a framework I understand MGTOW that works with hetereosexuality, but gets thrown out the window when you end up not having sexuality framed in the context of a man and a woman. The core I see MGTOW is that it involves being single, and not having any partnerships that are lasting with anyone. From this, you end up going your own way and not seek to be tied down or defined by any external connections to other people you didn’t choose. I see this at the core, with the whole gynocentrism problem driving heterosexual men into going their own way, due to how bad it has driven things. But, my way I see it is framed around an entirely different context of liberation, and not just a battle against gynocentrism. I am seeing a LOT of systems that seek to harm men, not just gynocentrism. I would say all existence seeks to kill off men. Men just happen to, due to biological drive, want to protect their women from these factors. Gyoncentrism/feminism now sought, for the sake of power, to remove these, and liberate women, and thus they get harmed. And men also get harmed even more.

 

Oh yeah, to “each his own”.

BUT: Im not signigng up for ANY of this broke back mountain poetry s~~~.

Thats just me though…

Resident cynic.

[ComingInHotParticipant 160]

OP, Please use the search feature, I noticed a lot of your questions have been answered or addressed in some fashion…

/forums/topic/oddly-im-gay-and-mgtow-what/

 

In my opinion, you cannot be gay and mgtow, you can sympathize with men, but you cant be Mgtow.  Mgtow are against marriage, because women take us to the cleaners and also the way women expect us to put them on a pedestal and give them everything while we date or marry them just to divorce and destroy us, take our kids etc… Gay men can now marry, but they dont marry or date women, they marry men.   Therefore one of the biggest reasons men are MGTOW doesn’t even apply to gay men.

Just one assholes opinion.

Peace

[Anonymous 12]

Personally I see Homosexuality aligned with Feminism and all things Politically Correct and “Progressive” that MGTOW goes against.

[FitzBonesParticipant 304]

Sure I think its possible to be gay and MGTOW since mgtow is a way of living, an attitude towards life, society and relationships. I genuinely dont give a f~~~ about anyone elses sexual orientation, what goes on behind clothes doors can stay there; I dont need nor want to know

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

[RoyDalParticipant]

Men Going Their Own Way means what it says. There is nothing about “these men but not those men.”

Going your own way is a state of mind. It’s entirely internal. The external circumstances a man chooses for himself have nothing to do with it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[narwhalParticipant]

You don’t have to suffer from all the consequences of feminism to be MGTOW.   There are a number of hetero MGTOW who have never married.  I would agree that homsexual men are not impacted by feminism to the same extent that hetero men are, but they may opt to go their own way for their own reasons.

But even if a gay man marries another man, they still could suffer many of the same consequences in divorce.  It is still no fault divorce, so the man would looks some access to the child.  If he is the main bread winner, then he would be forced to pay child support, would loss half his wealth, etc.

Where it gets fuzzy with me, has to do with that he may just be a sympathizer for the plight of heterosexual men.  He may see this as a big negative to society and general, and want change for that reason.  I don’t think being a sympathizer makes you MGTOW though, as there are women who claim to sympathize as well.  Then again, women aren’t men, while a gay man is a man.

Regardless, I don’t see how the inclusion of gay men can diminish MGTOW in any way.  It could serve as a distraction, if those against homosexuality want to force an issue of it, or if gay men want to push for some sort of special treatment as opposed to just going their own way.

Ok. Then do it.

[chirParticipant]

Straight..  Gay…  If you are a man with the god given equipment you will eventually be handed s~~~ sandwiches by women.  They don’t care if you are gay or straight.  Your a man.  Therefore inherently evil.  That’s what our current society teaches them.

So even if you are Gay you are still a man going your own way.   You may not be on the same path as other men so do no harm and go your own way.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

RoyDal wrote:

Men Going Their Own Way means what it says. There is nothing about “these men but not those men.” Going your own way is a state of mind. It’s entirely internal. The external circumstances a man chooses for himself have nothing to do with it.

There are numerous views of what MGTOW means, from just what the words say, to an underlying worldview that the history of humanity is based around gynocentrism, and this view, if not women themselves, are the reason for a lot of ills.  Men seeing this as a worldview end up believing that they need to go their own way, just to survive.  Depending on what one’s view of MGTOW is, it can either fit or not fit a gay man.  If it is just about a man going his own way, what would the man care to think what is or is not his own way?  It is like the whole “real men don’t eat quiche” book back in the day and one man defining what is a real man or not.  I am of the belief a MGTOW doesn’t care about this, or would care.  But, I do see, when trying to discuss things in a forum like this, understanding presumptions other MGTOW is or not is helpful.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

It’s kind of a slippery slope. But who are we to judge, if we do judge how does that make us any different than feminism or the babysit crazy judgemental skanks on jezebel. The facts are these we are against societal norms because it has become venomous towards men regardless of sexual orientation.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[Anonymous 11]

Gay men are used by women just as we straights are just in a different way.

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