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In retrospect, I think I didnt fall prey to many womens advances in my youth, largely due to a defense mechanism to protect myslef against them; and Im curious if you guys think similarly.
Im now in my mid 30s, so I am reflecting upon earlier years. I remember in my 20’s when the most attractive girls would say and do the most overtly sexual s~~~, but I didnt bite on the hook.
When I first started thinking about this, I was mad at myself. Thinking – “that girl wanted to f~~~. It was so obvious. Why didnt you do anything about it?”
Now that Ive gotten a little bit older, I look back and think I probably had a very good subconscious reason why I never persued those easy lays.
I realized they were holding all the cards in a deck stacked against me. And that was more than likely the subconscious realization I came to at the time.
My question is if any of you, looking back, have considered the same?
What was once considered a youthful ignorant folly for not bedding every chick I could, I am now realizing might have been a subconscious defense mechanism.
Resident cynic.
Yes, I am sure I have. I have always had a built in fear of marriage, and there are times in my past when I turned down an easy lay because of no reason at all that I was consciously aware of.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I’m actually at that point right now. There’s a girl that’s stringing my best friend along, and he’s falling for the bait, hook, line and sinker. I however am just ignoring her. However, as you know, girls usually travel in packs of 2 or more. The more I ignore them, the more they vie for my attention, but I know their not worth it, and never will be.
They can see me shaping up to be “quite a catch”, but because I’m f~~~ing sick and tired of only being referred to by females only in capacity of how much work I do or am capable of, my “biological imperative” has completely fried or rather, rewritten. It’s so easy to see how they believe themselves irresistible, but it’s even more interesting to see their reactions to not being responded to.
are you a chia pet in man drag 
Anonymous3I think lack of sexual experience is one reason a lot of younger guys are hesitant, especially the more attractive the girl is. Most guys really don’t have much if any experience when younger, but everyone assumes the girls do. I’m not necessarily certain they do actually.
Also a lot of it is mixed signals, and especially in academic or work settings the danger of rape or harassment accusations.
I think for a lot of men, and rightfully so, they’re looking for situations where it’s going to be safe for them, and the girl can’t play ridiculous games. Most attractive women, especially younger women, are primarily looking for attention and then almost make it so they have to be “raped” but they don’t count it as rape because it’s some loser that has no life or anything to lose. Those are the guys that generally get through a lot of that resistance, until later the girl is a complete slut and just gives it up all the time.
I can’t even begin to imagine how insufferable young women are today with all the social media, the 24/7 women are wonderful propaganda blitz from all sources, and all the beta orbiter manginas around to validate them. Women were obnoxious enough without all that stuff, and before the smartphones were around. I don’t think I’d like my chances today. Also the fact that there aren’t even that many healthy weight women to go around either, most women seem to be fat these days.
It would make sense to me if the West went Japan style herbivore, what with the pickings out there. But it’s not happening. I so admire Japan, Japanese men are probably going to force the collapse of feminism in Japan. I’m waiting to see the effects of this herbivore thing in a few more years, when their government realizes women are utterly worthless to try and run a country with.
When it comes to women I have nothing but self defense mechanisms left.
For me it’s not so much a matter of a subconscious defense as it is as overt conscious defense against real danger. I have found women to be unsafe, unfriendly, conniving, destructive, and not worth 2 shakes of a s~~~ pursuing. They have nothing intellectually or stimulating to talk about, and if it wasn’t for their easy degrees which men don’t give a s~~~ about they’d have nothing at all. Thank God I am not a young man in this steaming pile of s~~~ of a world that women have turned it into. Let society collapse. I’m out. It’s all been an illusion and a painful one to wake up from.
I have found women to be unsafe, unfriendly, conniving, destructive, and not worth 2 shakes of a s~~~ pursuing
Interesting topic.
Yes, I definitely have rejected women because of a defense mechanism.
Before I became MGTOW, I rejected many women, although I didn’t know why at the time.
Although since becoming MGTOW, I reject women on a conscious basis.
Women are uncaring creatures who basically want something from you while at the same time giving you as little as possible.It would make sense to me if the West went Japan style herbivore, what with the pickings out there. But it’s not happening. I so admire Japan, Japanese men are probably going to force the collapse of feminism in Japan. I’m waiting to see the effects of this herbivore thing in a few more years, when their government realizes women are utterly worthless to try and run a country with.
What is going on in Japan?
Anonymous11Since going MGHOW, I reject women on a much more regular basis. My blue pill friends think I’m crazy for not having sex with these easy women. I sit there and think about how many c~~~s she’s taken in the past 24 hours if she’s willing to f~~~ some guy she does not even know. I could be the most demented sick f~~~er on the face of the Earth for all she knows, yet she wants to cheat with me on her boyfriend. I’ve had a f~~~ing string of these lately.
It’s amazing what sticking your dick in crazy will do for you.
For me personally yes my life is about the things I enjoy and I am better because of it. I think it has a lot to do with the logical part of the mind developing strength to overpower the impulsive mind. When I was driven by impulse my life went to s~~~ and when I was driven by reason it improved.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Yes, my own sister was married and divorced three times; she also lived with at least three other guys. Having witnessed this pattern occurring over time in my own family has probably resulted in something of an avoidance or defense mechanism for life in regards to potential relationships.
Of course. I had far more options than I acted on. Girls I didn’t pursue. Even one I remember enjoying a very brief fling with, who was so much younger that I took her out for breakfast to tell her we can’t continue anymore. It could have cost me my job at the time. She wanted to keep it going on the sly ( with a “nobody needs to know” arrangement ) but I was in a position of authority, and I had to cut it off.
Then there were the red flag psychotics. I didn’t meet TOO many of those, but when I did, my silent alarms went off.
Where I did it most was perhaps when I had a job where I traveled a lot. The women were easier to make than toast. Over a period of 4 months I could have had a different one every other night. They openly bed-hopped like you would not believe. I had no interest. Then one I worked with — who had more men in her than the Trojan Horse — developed “vaginal warts” or something like that. She was off work and told people this! It was like a running joke. “She’s out today because of her vagina”. She flirted up a storm with me, but no thanks.
And ……. I should mention one who I still regret letting go once in a while. I wonder if I did the right thing. I was very heartless at the end, and she was always wonderful. So the way I cut it off was very unfair. There was just something about her that wasn’t right, I couldn’t put my finger on it exactly, so I just went with my manstincts. They have never let me down.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Defense mechanism? That’s an odd way of mentioning it. I think of defense mechanism as irrational. My ex was like that…she’d assuming I was accusing her of some wrong before I said or did anything. Rejecting women is not a defense mechanism, it’s completely rational.
When you receive that email from the African prince who needs $2000 to retake his kingdom (he promises to pay you back), is it a defense mechanism to ignore it? When the car salesman tries to get you to pay full price for a car you don’t even want, is it a defense mechanism to just walk away? Hell no.
The idea that MGTOW is just a defense mechanism is just another way to get you to buy back into the truthiness. That women really are great, you’ve just had bad experiences and are damaged. You need to overcome your ‘irrational’ fears and take a chance on her. Be a real man, because she’s worth it. No, she isn’t. No thank you.
That said, if you’re saying that you don’t even have to think about why you’re rejecting women anymore, then that’s different.
Ok. Then do it.
My story is a little different, so I’ll throw it out there just as a contrast. I have one older brother, and he was Chad Thunderc~~~. We grew up in a small town and EVERY girl was into my older brother. I was known as “Chad’s little brother”. So for me, at a younger age, it was lack of self confidence. It doesn’t take too many times of girls coming up to me with “can I ask you a question?” Me, “sure”. “Is Chad dating anyone? I REALLY like him!” to realize your lack of sexual market value while competing with Chad.
For the record, my brother is a good dude and is married to a unicorn. His (second) wife is freaking awesome.
Anyway, as I got older, I think my defense mechanism was just a lack of self confidence with women. I was always a little cautious of any girl that was THAT into me.
My problem is that I underestimated the attractiveness of “nice”. I was always attracted to the narcissist. The confident, fun, attractive girl at the party that looked like she enjoyed life and was always having a good time. You know, the “strong, independent” girl that would be your PARTNER in life. Yeah, right?
Turns out she is neither strong nor independent. Turns out she is a f~~~ing parasite looking for a host. Luckily they will eventually leave for what they think is a better host to leach from. The only question is how much of your time and money it will cost you before she moves on to another host.
Now my defense mechanism is very conscience and calculated. I don’t honestly believe AWALT, but I’m an accountant. Do the math. At 51, the chances of finding a single NAWALT are basically zero. Whatever percentage of them were out there aren’t single. On the bright side, the “box wine / cat lady” deserves her box of wine and cat s~~~ future, because with 99.99% confidence she is an AWALT that overvalued the golden vagina.
I’ve said before that my younger daughter is into dance. When the dance studio hens found out I was single, they all couldn’t wait to tell me what a great dad I am and what a great guy I am. I already know that. But nice try. Ignored it long enough and they all eventually gave up.
And women wonder where the good men are……….
Order the good wine
Anonymous42I was a f~~~ing idiot when I was young, but not stupid. I would see the f~~~ed up s~~~ a girl wold do to a guy (any guy) then I’d automatically add her name to my s~~~-list, one of them was a friends girlfriend, broke up with him then started fishing for me, not happening! I never cheated on a slut, or f~~~ed around with my friends girlfriends, even months after the breakups I still wouldn’t touch them, In my mind they were off limits, and I didn’t care what was on their minds! It’s one of the bridges to this day I’ve never crossed.
It becomes a three-way mind f~~~! Something I’m just not into, I did “know” a dude who’s wife I banged, but he wasn’t my friend, and he acted more like a c~~~ than she did! This guy gained the disrespect of everyone that got to know him! He was a mangina being fed intravenously, massive amounts of pure blue pill extract! (Phenolbluepillathol)…………
Now, and for 18 years, I’m convinced that modern women are truly detrimental to all things good and proper…….. I look back on that prior life of mine like a space man looks back on earth as he jettisons past Pluto’s gravitational pull for his final slingshot onto deep space. I’m looking to the stars with eager anticipation and excitement! The future is mine, I’m not going back to gynocentric misery earth, I’m going forward into the unknown……..
Anonymous11At 51, the chances of finding a single NAWALT are basically zero. Whatever percentage of them were out there aren’t single.
I’m 48 and my best friend is a Chad. I remember so well women coming up to talk to me about him and his status. It’s not exactly very inspiring. One occasion this little hottie came up to talk to me instead. I was with Chad and so used to the normal drill that I crashed and burned. I remember another occasion where this woman laid down on the beach and spread her legs and begged Chad to f~~~ her right there in broad daylight. He didn’t even have to utter a word to her. Chad’s are phenomenal.. I’m not ugly by any means, but I’m not a CT.
The thing that would p~~~ me off most about my Chad was that whenever I’d be working a woman in my younger years he’d actively sabotage me even if he had no interest. This guy is such a pussy magnet and has no problems scoring yet he couldn’t allow any other guy to score. I finally just started ghosting on him whenever I got involved with a woman. It was easier than having Chad tell her things like I loved drowning kittens in buckets of water behind my back. Now, he does not interfere. I just freak him out now since I’ve taken the red pill. If I got involved with a woman now, Chad would be the first one she meets of my friends.
His pussy addiction is currently destroying him. He’s going off the deep end. I had another friend who could only bang ugly land whales. I can score with decent looking women, and he sabotages me too.
I’m glad I never got married. However, the left overs are truly horrible. The women, and many men are terribly out of shape. The former NAWALT who spent 25 years in an abusive relationship either shuts down or goes f~~~ing wild and has issues that only therapy can fix.. The sluts are still sluts though now sporting 1/4 mile dick heights. The dreaded single mom who has 4 kids by three different guys. It’s a f~~~ing wasteland.
Yet another reason for MGTOW.
@Tower – My whaler buddy mentioned above got into a 3 way with his Brother and his Brother’s wife. Talk about problems.
Anonymous0Yeah I had a chance with a girl that look like j-lo but decided not to act because I would be bored out of my f~~~ing mind. Actually a women opened up my eyes on how I was never a man to be in a relationship. She saved my life because we could of went out and did the family thing but she told me ” I don’t want to ruin you,
I’m a bitch, I will nag you, and you will cheat on me”.I really did love her and she loved me but we both knew it was going to lead me to have a unhappy life. That to me was my moment of truth that I will remain single until I die. She now has two kids and text me on how she wish she would of went out with me because her life is miserable for buying into the trap a alpha thug man. Ohh while she is getting married texting me this. The last girl I will love probably because she truly helped me out even bought school clothes for me and took me to the movies but if we would of went out it would have destroyed me. First person outside of my family that gave up their happiness for me. Nuke missile dodged. All she had to say was marry me at one point of time I would of too.
I had no such self defense mechanisms. I was completely open to manipulation. I ended up getting married at 22, divorced twice and lived with two women.
It took me that much abuse before I wised up.
I hope my defense mechanism is starting to kick in. I’m still dating but am very defensive in my interactions with females. I would never let a female have access to my inner thoughts.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
Yes. I actually had a sexy (but CRAZY and clingy) young Japanese chick undress in front of me out of the blue. I wanted her, but I wanted to escape the upcoming drama even more, so I rejected her and sent her home. She cried, got crazy on me, so I just blocked all contact and never looked back. (Did drink the bottle of wine she gave me though. Good stuff… :D)
I’ve just never been comfortable with clingly chicks.
My buddies always called me gay and weird for turning down tail in Japan. Now I understand why I couldn’t do it – I was MGTOW back then as well..I did a few times, not as much as you guys though.
You know the best thing about being young?
Women and society believe that you’re horny out of your mind and that you chase vagina by default.And when you don’t do it, they don’t notice you.
No one shames you or locks on you because they all think “oh this guy’s young, he’s chasing it no question about it”
And you’re free!It’s like perma stealth by default!Hahahaha!yes ,rejected quite a few but i bit a few hooks as well and it cost me dearly …it’s EASY to reject the less good looking ones , for sure ..but the real hot chicks were a weakness i had ..till a few years ago when it all collided into a perfect s~~~ storm and i was left without a dollar in my pocket ……better late than never ! …
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