Do you know any men in a happy marriage?

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

I know we don’t advocate for marriage.  I’m just asking because after doing a personal inventory of my family, friends, acquaintances, I think I know of precisely one couple who are “happily” married.

The reason?  Neither of them want kids.  He already has a kid from a previous relationship, and she has zero desire to have any.  I believe one or both of them may have already had preventative operations to ensure they don’t have kids.  They’re basically living their lives, saving money and genuinely seem happy.  They don’t have a lot of “couple friends” because all of the ones who they did have had kids then moved on to presumably hang out with other couples who had children.

So outside of that, do you know anyone at all?  Be honest, I’m genuinely curious, because any time I hear “you should get married” and I ask “why, I don’t know any guys who are happy in that situation” I get told I’m wrong, I’m bitter, I don’t know enough people, or I hang out with the wrong people…

[UntamedParticipant]

“Love and marriage, love and marriage go together like a horse and – ” wait a minute, I’m the HORSE?
F~~~ that

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[Anonymous 1]

Untamed wrote:

“Love and marriage, love and marriage go together like a horse and – ” wait a minute, I’m the HORSE?

F~~~ that

My thoughts exactly…

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

 

I don’t it. When they talk about, “how good it is”, it sounds like a, “jooooin ussss, join us in miseryyyyyy!” plea instead.

 

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Burgundy wrote:

<iframe src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/KAKaJE4gjYg?feature=oembed” width=”500″ height=”375″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe> I don’t it. When they talk about, “how good it is”, it sounds like a, “jooooin ussss, join us in miseryyyyyy!” plea instead.

 

That’s truly the impression I get from friends who are married with kids and choking down their blue pills.  “Marriage isn’t so bad”, “I love the kids”, “My wife is pretty good” or other vague answers.  They don’t seem particularly enthusiastic when saying it.

If marriage is so f~~~ing great, why aren’t there any men strongly advocating for it?  Why can’t i think of any people in my network who are happy (from the man’s perspective).

Women would have us believe all men are just f~~~ing sex obsessed pigs who don’t know any better and are way happier being married because they’d be miserable on their own.

Funny thing is the one guy I know who is vastly regarded as a huge loser by most couples is really happy.  He works when he wants to, flies down to Cuba all the time for 14-21 day vacations (We’re Canadian we can do that) and gets his f~~~ on with tourists and some locals.  He says he doesn’t like Canadian girls unless he meets them on vacay (no strings attached).  He goes out every day and pursues his hobbies, works when he has to.  He’s mostly pretty content going his own way.  Everyone says he’s a huge loser becasue no wife/gf and he doesn’t work a FT job, because he’s happy with working when he has to for money.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

None apart from one guy, but only because his wife knows she can’t do any better than him. Most have been worn down into submission over the years and from being over a barrel via marriage contract or kids.

One old high school friend i caught up with a few times recently looks tired and miserable. He loves his kids but the best he can come up with is that ‘this was the life he chose’ as if it’s a consolation prize. He never talks about his wife.

Another old friend & wife i bumped into in a bar recently who i thought had a solid relationship quietly told me to never get married when his wife was out of earshot.

A co-worker is living with a dead bedroom.

My father lost a fortune on his second marriage after his wife let her true personality out within the first few months and then pulled the plug via an affair when he refused to be tamed.

I could come up with many more.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

No I haven’t heard a happy marriage in my 32 yrs of existence.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

I almost don’t know any married couples, only four that I can mention straight up, and two of them seem really horrible while the other two seem happy. In general, marriage isn’t very big here. I think most people think it’s outdated, and the legal aspects are very watered down compared to you guys across the Atlantic, so in most cases it just doesn’t fill any use besides a traditional wedding ceremony costing a boat load of money in itself and making the husband the legal father of any children automatically if no complaints are made, so most people just stay in informal relationships or live together.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I read a statistic that both partners describe themselves as happy in only 5% of married couples. Since my memory is hazy, let’s double that to 10%. Then I’ll ask myself: Do I want to take on 90% odds that I will not be happy?

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

Like yourself Canadian I knew one, My grandparents were married for over 50 years and it was til death, they were my example and what growing up I hoped I would be able to achieve when I found the “good woman” I was promised by society. Yeah, that kinda didn’t work out so well, but hey, being single at least means I get to keep all the fruits of the work and money ethics my grandfather instilled in me, society at least hasn’t been able to f~~~ that half up, yet.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I know a few…I think one set of my grandparents were happily married before one died…two uncles that are still on a first marriage w/kids with a wife who was only married once who had no prior kids who I honestly think would do it the same if they could go back…one other uncle who has a divorce under his belt but seemed to get it right on round 2, first marriage for his wife, no kids for either.  Other than that, I know one older couple in their 70s that seem genuinely happy with each other.

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head…but I know way more people who are either stuck in a miserable marriage or have divorce(s) under their belt.  Its not worth the risk in my opinion…50/50 shot of divorce and of the ones who don’t divorce seems like a 90% chance of ending up unhappy.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Canadian SportsFan wrote:

So outside of that, do you know anyone at all?

Nope. I genuinely don’t know of any “happy” marriages.

The truth of the matter is that ever since the 1950s passed, there really hasn’t been a thing called a happy family. Some stupid s~~~ has to ruin a marriage, whether the marriage ends or not. Someone’s weight, someone’s housing conditions, someone’s behavior, and excetera.

The more freedoms people get, the more problems that exist because of it. And that corresponds with marriage.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

Nope. I genuinely don’t know of any “happy” marriages. The truth of the matter is that ever since the 1950s passed, there really hasn’t been a thing called a happy family. Some stupid s~~~ has to ruin a marriage, whether the marriage ends or not. Someone’s weight, someone’s housing conditions, someone’s behavior, and excetera. The more freedoms people get, the more problems that exist because of it. And that corresponds with marriage.

I think its a bit of a two sided problem these days.  Back in the day…like pre-50s…a husband and wife both fulfilled a role in the relationship, and they both depended upon and needed the other to perform.  Today…not so much.

First off…look at the value of a wife.  Technology has practically replaced her.  Back in the day they would do laundry by hand, cook meals from scratch daily, and tended to have more kids to take care of.  What does a stay at home wife do today?  Spend 30 minutes tops throwing a quick dinner together and pushing a couple buttons during commercial breaks on the tv to do a load of laundry?  Big f~~~ing deal, I’ll just do it myself.  Cleaning is no big deal on your own…just don’t make a mess, and if you do at least its just your mess you are cleaning.  Freezers make it incredibly easy to keep good food around…just cook something on the weekend and freeze your meals for the week…housewives have just become obsolete.

Then you have to look at it from a woman’s perspective.  They depended on their husband to bring home the bacon.  Nowadays they know they can just get a divorce and the government will force the man to keep handing over the bacon.  Either that, or they can just act like they don’t know who the baby daddy is and the government will straight up pay them if they are a single mother.

Now if I had a spouse who was actually doing something worthwhile for me, I wouldn’t focus on the negatives, I’d be delighted by all the great things she did.  Like when my grandfather would come home…he came home to clean, disciplined kids, a neat house, and a home cooked meal.  He never looked at my grandmother as useless…he always said she worked harder than he did.  From the time the first kid popped out, she never earned another paycheck in her life, as my grandfather worked lots of overtime and invested wisely so she was taken care of long after he was deceased, and she definitely appreciated that and respected him for his part.

I’m guessing this is why older folks seem to have lower divorce rates and higher rates of actually being happily married.  Their marriage was more like a pitcher and a catcher…both complimented the other  Nowadays since women have become useless to a man, and government either fills in for a husband or forces a man to still pony up cash even after a divorce, and there are no social stigmas or consequences for divorce anymore, getting married is like both people wanting to pitch all the time and neither wanting to catch, or both wanting to catch and neither wanting to pitch.  What’s the point of having a “team mate” who is just going to stand there and argue about who is playing what position and will never be happy even if you let them pick which position to play?  Its easier and cheaper to just buy yourself a bucket of b~~~~ for the days you want to pitch, and a pitching machine for the days you want to catch.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Everyone I know in a “happy” marriage are 60 and above. Everyone else I can tell say they’re happy only because they’ve “settled”. I have learned that asking people whether or not they happy with any life style they have chosen usually results in a “I can’t complain” kind of tone followed by hesitant list of reasons they can’t escape their situation. They are happy because they make themselves happy. Not because they naturally are happy.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 42]

Happily MGHOW, f~~~ marriage! I know multitudes of happily divorced for every 1 “seemingly” happy to be married, but even those go south unexpectedly! So to answer the question I know 2 couples, My father/mother and my aunt/uncle, all the rest are dead, divorced, or miserably married until divorce do they part….

[Canadian SportsFanParticipant 216]

Anonymous wrote:

Happily MGHOW, f~~~ marriage! I know multitudes of happily divorced for every 1 “seemingly” happy to be married, but even those go south unexpectedly! So to answer the question I know 2 couples, My father/mother and my aunt/uncle, all the rest are dead, divorced, or miserably married until divorce do they part….

 

Sad and true unfortunately.

Yet every guy thinks he’s found “the one” NAWALT who won’t do that.

Yet try to claim marriage isn’t a happy union around woman and they’ll jump down your throat.  They measure the happiness of the marriage by the wife’s yardstick, not the husband’s.

NAWALT NAWALT – I should ignore what I see directly in front of my face (miserable men, divorced men, or obviously unhappy men trapped in a marriage with kids) to believe this is a great thing to do in life.  The one or two men who managed to find a happy marriage situation among scores of others who got burned or are regretting that choice.

 

 

 

[martygParticipant 103]

My parents were happily married, for over 50 years. They were both fit perfectly into traditional roles, straight out of Leave it to Beaver.

[bcrogerParticipant 113]

not one.

In fact, my dad never got along well at all, but luckily they are still married. 50% of all marriages end in divorce, and much of the other 50% are miserable.

[MDawgDizMizzleParticipant 73]

I’m glad this is being conversed upon. I myself am a married man of two years. I have two daughters. Happily married can be a loaded question. I’m under 30, so take from this what you will. I always wanted a partner as long as I could remember. As life went on I slowly realized I really didn’t get along with them due to their self-absorbed attitude. I was coming to terms with this, and then I met my wife. She was my first everything. I never dated so I have nothing to compare her to. She has been a burden in some cases and a blessing in others. I work sewer and watermain in construction. We have long emergency hours andcthe money ain’t bad. I have a hot meal every time I get home, mostly home cooked from scratch, the house is fairly clean, I get her to pour my drinks and massage me when I get home. I really don’t lift a finger at home. Hell, she did most of the painting recently. She wants to work but we decided it made financial sense. She sometimes sits with me and watches these youtube videos on feminism, and thinks they’re right out to lunch. She found out recently that her mother f~~~ed her father’s financial life and is disgusted with it. She doesn’t agree with men getting f~~~ed over in the courts, but obviously I can only take that with a grain of salt. She boosts my self esteem and likes direction. I enjoy her company and really do love her.

These are all positives, however, there’s always negatives that follow. She can be very influential and her mother is poisonous. I tell her all the time and she’s starting to see it for herself. The kids made her bitchy, whiney and had a bulls~~~ self entitlement. We wanted kids, hell, I pushed for them more so than she did. We had to get rid of a dog because of her lack of patience. That f~~~ing tore me apart. In between my l9ng hours and her raising one while 8 months pregnant… I couldn’t stand to be around her. That really f~~~ing pushed it. She has a hard f~~~ing time admitting her wrong doings and has this stupid sense of false pride. I have no problem calling my wife out due to honesty in a relationship. Happily is definately up and down. I’ve told her flat out that she was my exception. We lived similar lives in our upbringing and that’s why I think we get along as well as we do.

Would I marry again? Don’t see a point. Am I happy? Yes, so far and to an extent. Would I marry her again if I had the chance to change it? So far… yes… and no. I’d certainly like to be with her but knowing the laws and how they play against me… maybe I would reconsider. It’s hard for me to really say. Time will certainly tell.

I love the fact that I can come home to someone else. I like “me” time but I don’t care for the idea of being alone. Some MGTOW’s here certainly seem very well educated and chalk full of experience regarding women’s nature. Said MGTOW’s come off as older and have had a past marriage. I think marriage has gone to s~~~ compaired to the days of the past like others have said, a mutual benefit and a team. MGTOW has certainly helped me understand quite a bit. I’m definately more informed and prepared than I once was. I’m starting to see some of the red flags others have mentioned.

Well, that’s my take on it. Marriage has more or less become irrelevant and now a days all for the women. If my wife were to leave me because I want to do my own s~~~ and make myself happy too, then f~~~ it and f~~~ her. So far, that doesn’t completely seem to be the case. SO FAR.

[Quiet ThomParticipant 116]

It depends who you ask. Typically, most women I know would have a tendency to answer yes. Why wouldn’t they? For bringing a pussy to the party (at least at first to seal the deal) they get all kinds of s~~~ and an indentured servant even if they choose to end the marriage. The men, not so much. They realize that they’re eyeb~~~~ deep in s~~~ and that the remaining time of their life is living with her and paying or leaving and paying.

Oddly enough, a friend of my girlfriend rented a house on the beach for a week and invited us and some other people for an overnight or two. Another couple from our circle of friends came with their Down Syndrome daughter……..she’s a good kid but it’s difficult to understand what she’s saying sometimes. They are not a happy couple by any description. Anyhow, I was moving to sit down at a picnic table and clipped my knee on the seat and said ouch. The wife says to me “Did you just hurt yourself?” Yup was my reply as I started eating. “What did you hit? Your foot or your leg?” she asked. For some reason, this made me go from zero to f~~~ you in a half second. “What possible difference does it make what I hit or didn’t hit? It’s not important and, as much as I think you mean well, I can take care of myself.” She was taken aback and immediately shut her pie hole. She’s not used to being shut down when she says dumb s~~~. And she certainly says dumb s~~~ a lot. I looked at her husband to be sure he didn’t take issue with what I said to his wife and he had the biggest effin’ grin on his face. I thought he was going to hug me.

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