Do you identify as a misogynist?

[Total LeeParticipant 1573]

If I say this, am I a misogynist?

Because that’s what we’re talking about here. Any objections and accusations of misogyny can be filed by kneeling down, puckering up their lips and smooching on my hairy ass. Anyone who doesn’t like it can LEAVE.

[TYEParticipant 291]

Nope ! I don’t even acknowledge the word along with Sexist,Homophobic, and a number of other words used by Feminist and their Allies most of the definitions are extremely corrupt, and falsified !!!

[CrypticParticipant 45]

I don’t think of myself as misogynist, I don’t hate women, it’s relationships I hate.  Far too much effort and grief for so little reward.  Marriage is a farce in my book, if you want to spend time with someone why do you need to write a contract?  Defacto  relationships get pretty much the same perks (and dangers at that).  Relationships are little more than codependency between two people (straight or gay, doesn’t matter what your preference) who feel the need to have another person in their life to validate their worth.  Which is where it becomes all too easy to control someone.  The minute someone becomes dependent on another person “liking” them to the exclusion of all others is the very moment you give up independence in happiness.  No one should feel they need another person to tell them they love them or to agree with them or to f~~~ them in order to be happy with themselves.  We are born alone and we die alone.  I have a brother who ends up time and time again in s~~~ty destructive relationships hat end in court cases, children he can’t see, suicide attempts and alcoholism all because he can’t bear the thought of being alone in life.  F~~~ them apples I say.

 

I’ve met my share of thunderc~~~s in my time, been shat on, used and abused, manipulated and cast aside the minute they get bored,  yeah not all women are like that, but the good ‘uns are so few and far between it’s not worth the hospital and or legal bills looking for them in my estimation.  I’ve learnt to be happy with myself and revel in the freedom I have found in no longer being a slave to the Hollywood and Disney propaganda of the oh so perfect happy ending with the perfect relationship.  Relationships seem to always end up in one side having to compromise their integrity, morals and core beliefs in order to successfully fit the other persons idea of the perfect mate.  If women want to chew the fat and talk about something interesting, wicked, I’m all good for a yarn.  But never again will I be subjugated in the name of a relationship and a need to please someone else at the expense of my own desires, as small as that may be.  It’s never worth giving up who you are just because someone else wants you to.  It just so happens that every relationship I have been in has ended for that very reason.  They call it small concessions, the reality is it is control.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Technically, we all are. Why you my ask? Simple. If you say anything remotely negative about a female you are labeled a misogynist. Check out YouTube. Keymaster and myself know this very well. I find it funny because do they really think we give a s~~~ if we’re called that?

Doesn’t matter. Those retards don’t know the difference between hate and indifference.

Edit. No, you’re not wrong for doing so. Passive aggressive acceptance of evil is not a virtue. You’re with friends here.

Fuck this planet.

[flamesabersParticipant 55]

@Keymaster-Thank you for posting the equality video. One of my favorite lines is “why would I pay for you?” It makes me think about the amount of gall she must have to assume she will be getting a free ride from start to finish. It’s a wonder how enough men allow such self-entitlement behavior to persist.

[mesohuntParticipant 65]

On the Lou Dobbs video, I love the feminist hamster wheel portion about 1:30 in:

“Some feminists question the study, including the measurement of happiness in general.   Others say the happy-gap is no surprise, because of how hard Women are expected to work, outside and inside the home.”

So, if you would just define happiness differently, it would come out right?  Or if you didn’t expect women to work as hard as men(not equality, but unearned privilege), women wouldn’t be so unhappy?

Well, feminist bitches, what do you want?  Do you want chivalrous patriarchy and the protections from reality that it provided or do you want equality.  If you want true equality, I’m sure there are some dudes who would love to give you their watch duty tonight in Afghanistan, to keep their 15 other marine brothers safe for a few hours.

Then they note, men’s happiness has remained constant during the period of the study and only women have lost happiness.   Well that is because men now, as then, are just dealing with reality on it’s terms.   Feminism has exposed more women to just some bits of men’s reality than the entire gender was exposed to before the movement.  True reality setting in seldom adds to happiness, when you have been protected from said reality for so long.

I think this is just why children seem happiest before school sets in and then get severely moody and cynical when hormones kick in.  Before they hit puberty, they are not addicted to sex and don’t have to face that reality or the pitfalls associated with it.  Then they hit puberty and, whether they ‘took some sex’ or not, they now have a decades long chemical addiction to it and are forced to deal with the black market criminals(women) who control the market, to get their fix.  No wonder it is such a dangerous marketplace, women have a monopoly on the product and now have taken over the ‘state’ to control all the regulations too.

 

 

[Zagg777Participant 13]

Hating women and acknowledging the truth about them are completely different things. I avoid them to the greatest extent possible because they can be very dangerous to men, but I don’t hate them, or even dislike them.

[MjolnirParticipant 23]

You’ll notice I never refer to women as bitches or any other derogatory name. I didn’t come here because I hate women – I came here because MGTOW allow people to be evaluated as humans instead of based on gender. The only difference now is that I judge women by the same scale as I judge men, I don’t give women extra attention and instead of focusing on pleasing them I focus on becoming a person I want to be and do things which is positive for my life. In my world, this is the major shift in thinking that separate blue and redpill men. I see no reason why a woman who is a good person should suffer because of prejudice against her gender. On the flipside I am very cautious to guarding my interest making sure things will not come back and bite me in the ass. Though, blaming women for their abiding to their nature is like blaming men for being horny. One can only accept it and adapt to it so it best fits ones situation. The main thing I feel anger towards is the current society and  men in charge with no self respect and the feminazis who spew hatred towards men and screw up young boys and girls.

Sad things is that these boards seems more interested in finding faults with women and everything which is wrong in the world towards men instead of actually focusing on making their lives better. The vision I had when coming here was that I thought it would be a place where men could share their thoughts and feelings about what it means to be in charge of ones own life. Instead people post links to dating site profiles and laughing at women who approach the wall, yeah I do understand it’s sweet with some payback. On the other hand, what we are doing in our late 20s and forward is the exact same thing women do when they are younger, we use our high market value. Knowing the pain I felt as a teenager and early 20s I find it hard just to laugh at someones misery. Seeing a cheating wife, someone who initiated divorce or lied about contraception, the anger is justified, I just dont believe it extends to every person of a gender.

So if MGTOW means self ownership and placing high value on self, it saddens me people would use that freedom for hatred and bitterness.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

At this point, Misogynist is just a word used by empty headed t~~~s to shut down any opposing view points.

For instance, I could be branded a misogynist for pointing out that most of the prison population came from single mother households.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

You haven’t thought through this carefully, Mjolnir

That all SOUNDS good and noble , but “bitch” is not a derogatory name.
This is explained with references and proof in our glossary.

http://mgtow.com/glossary/

The word bitch is worn by women as a badge of honor. They are proud to write and sell books by women (for other women) with a step-by-step manual on how to be a bitch and snag the man of her dreams. ” Why men love bitches” and “why men marry bitches” are books available for sale on Amazon and are big sellers with women! So nobody gets to have a problem when we call women bitches either.

These boards seems more interested in finding faults with women and everything which is wrong in the world towards men instead of actually focusing on making their lives better

That wouldn’t be necessary if women didn’t bust their asses to totally misrepresent themselves. We have recorded testimony of women saying “I’m glad the men I know don’t know what your boys know”. She even says all women are whores. And we have another who talks about how she deliberately set out to financially destroy her husband BEFORE the wedding, then tells us “all us bitches are the same”. Again PROUD to call herself a bitch.

So you don’t get to have a problem with what we talk about (and in what way) ever again.

The vision I had when coming here was that I thought it would be a place where men could share their thoughts and feelings about what it means to be in charge of ones own life.

That’s like a woman saying “the vision I had of my wedding was unicorns and fairies and s~~~”. But we do. What you need to learn is the basic difference between thoughts, opinions and ACTIONS. Even when a grumpy bitch with miserable face walks into an elevator and says nothing, I will still smile and say good morning. So where’s the “misogyny”?? Yet you’re behaving like we all run around setting their hair on fire. Did you even read above?

Seeing a cheating wife, someone who initiated divorce or lied about contraception, the anger is justified, I just dont believe it extends to every person of a gender.

You don’t? The women above just TOLD you that it does. And they are happy that you don’t know it.
But if you still refuse to pay attention, hows 96% right in front of your eyes???

/video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/

That’s not “every”. But it’s still 96%. It even includes one man! You could afford to stop thinking in terms of the lowest common denominator., because you can’t afford to be that naive. Nobody here can. We are here to save lives, futures and fortunes and if you don’t like it, you will stay the f~~~ out of our way.

It saddens me people would use that freedom for hatred and bitterness.

You go tell the ladies that. Any time you’re ready. Only a person with a callous indifference to the humanity of men would NOT have a problem with what I just pointed out here. In spite of all of this, a list of men here (above) already explained they STILL don’t go around “hating women” as an entire sex. So you’re not getting away with any of it.

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Recently I went into a bookstore and asked for a book by name:
“The Cultural Devastation of American women. The Strange and Frightening Decline of the American Female”.
That book was written by a woman. A former feminist named Nancy Levant.

But when a man talks about “The Strange and Frightening Decline of the American Female”… POOF! he’s a “misogynist” who hates the entire sex. It doesn’t take a genius to see how intellectually dishonest that is. The accusation of “misogyny” is a deflection away from the actual problem. And nobody is falling for it anymore. Especially MGTOW.

To navigate the roads, it’s not enough to just be a good driver.
One must also actively practice collision avoidance.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[GoneSoloParticipant 119]

I identify as a man. A “misogynist” is what other people call me. Twice as funny when they try to do it across the internet.

[MjolnirParticipant 23]

My browser cant seem to quote your post Keymaster.

Women who consider bitch a mark of honor they lose value really fast with me. I just don’t care to use words like that if I can avoid it, it’s vulgar. Same with a lot of the feminist initiatives like “Day of the pussy”. I try to see every person I met as a person and depending on their behavior they lose respect or gain respect. Since going MGTOW I simply stop giving preferential treatment to women and also I will never marry, father children, put womens needs over my own and will leave my country. I didn’t know mgtow came with a set of rules you need to abide by and a nomenclature that was set in stone. I thought it was about going ones own way:

“Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”

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Yeah I know society sucks and some of womens behavior sucks as well. The point is, if it’s “Going their own way” then I thought it could be something positive and actually going ones own way. Talking about women all the time sounds more being stuck in the past and not going ones own way at all. Shouldn’t the topics be less about women and more about men? Where am I ln life, what can I with my newfound freedom, what are my goals for the future, how can I reach them, what is important to men? Seems like such a waste to be discussing women and their behavior all the time when it shouldn’t matter much anymore.

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I’ve never mentioned misogyny, which it isn’t. I was referring to the mindset, not actions. It’s a lot of negativity and energy wasted on nothing. If women will try to get pregnant without your consent. Get a vasectomy, destroy used condoms as well as expect and accept that this can happen. No need to dwell on it, or get angry about it, it’s just how it is at the moment.

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Of course I have a problem with it, I find that behavior utterly disgusting. Tricking a man into getting a child is a repugnant behavior. It’s not much I personally can do about it other than maximizing my chances it wont happen to me. I gain nothing from being angry about it. Whilst I do sympatize about the bad s~~~ that has happened to men (including me), every person needs to find their way to a better life no matter how bad the life was before that. It happened, it can’t be undone. It’s a bit like having to chop off your foot. Some will mourn the loss and look backwards and think how unfair it is, but sooner or later they need to look forward and do the best with what they have. It’s not because I lack of sympathy for what happened, but a good quality of life isn’t gained by looking backwards.

Edit: Just want to clarify that this is my OPINION, you don’t have to agree with it, give a s~~~ about it or anything. I’m not offended and I don’t care how you chose to live your life. It’s up to you. So don’t take my post as a way trying to silence people or that Im offended in some way.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Wiki definition: “Misogyny (/mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls.”

Feminists call people misogynistic by the lesser definition of “dislike of [females],” but ALWAYS treat it as if it is the “hatred” of women.

This is just what women do. It is just how women create their fake sense of self. Through extreme over exaggeration, because they can’t face the fact that they are boring nobodies with little to nothing of interest to say.

Because of this open definition, yes i am misogynistic because i dislike women in general, but at the same time i do not go around kidnapping or “castrating” them.

I’m against the double standard, so i choose to use the definition of which is the mirror of misandry.
If you act like a feminazi, except towards women, than yes you are a misogynist.

I don’t see any MGTOW’s going out randomly kidnapping people, raping them or “castrating” them, so i can safely say that by my standards, none of the people on this forum are misogynist.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Shouldn’t the topics be less about women and more about men?

Yes, that would follow and I get your stance on that. But haven’t you noticed as a man, navigating the world isn’t just about you doing your best (or better) or bringing the best out of yourself…. because the gynocracy works EXTREMELY HARD at battling against you – preventing you from doing so. If I want to be a rock star at 17 I can’t just pursue my dreams and march forward, because the women in your life (mom / girlfriend / wife) works her butt off to hold you BACK.

This is why I added the bottom 2 lines.
It’s not enough to just be a good driver…. you must also actively practice collision avoidance.

Women are dream killers.

Perhaps you haven’t’ learned this first hand, but ho boy, if I had a nickel for every time a woman told me I was s~~~, not good enough, not capable enough, “worked too hard” (WTF THIS THAT?), didn’t make enough money, should have said “no” to an opportunity and chosen HER over my desires and dreams… I wouldn’t have enjoyed NEARLY the freedom of choice or opportunities I did. This isn’t just my perception. Some enormously successful men can tell you first hand that women would have done anything to prevent him from having what he wants – including what he EARNED. Just consider the TV commercial where a woman will have a *problem* with you buying the car you want with money earned from years of YOUR OWN LABOUR.

Imagine a woman having the f~~~ing nerve to tell you can’t have what YOU want – while thinking you are REQUIRED to give her what she wants. It’s not acceptable. Imagine a woman having the f~~~ing nerve to throw your job application in the garbage because you’re more qualified for a job than anyone else.

….. Or how about you are born male and women (like your own mother) think you don’t deserve to be breast fed for that reason alone.

So who’s really being “vulgar”?

Men need to be educated and made aware of all of the forces are that pitted against them. It’s not enough to just work hard, be better, work out , improve yourself when even your POSITIVE qualities are treated as shortcomings. A refusal to tolerate misandry is not “misogyny”. Not even close.

I was standing at red light waiting to cross and a dude in an EXTREMELY hot car pulled up. I said “nice”. The bitch next to me said “men who drive cars like that are compensating for something”. How vulgar is that? She’s talking to a man she doesn’t know about some guy PENIS size – and she doesn’t even know him! WRONG. Men who drive cars like that work 3x as hard as you to be able to afford it, sugarbush. Does the same bitch think I am hung like a mule because I am WALKING?

Anybody can see what’s wrong with that. Imagine f~~~ing busting your ass to earn 6 figures and get the skills and experience to do it….. then you reward yourself with a Ferrari … and instead of women thinking of you as awesome, they think you’re hung like a gerbil. What the f~~~ is that? The toxic & vulgar attitudes are not with US. The problem is with THEM.

When I see a woman in a Mercedes, I don’t tell the woman standing next to me “that whore really knows how to suck”.
At least I have enough class to keep that thought to myself.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MjolnirParticipant 23]

 

I’d say most people will do their best to battle your dreams. Being successful makes other people insecure. It’s more about being born into the wrong or the right family. Some families just have s~~~ty value systems that keep people down. If you are born into a family with secure attachment and a healthy outlook on life they will most probably give plenty of encouragement no matter their gender. I know a girl from such a family and she has great values and behave in a way which make me respect her as a human.

Imo the problem is the large amount of dysfunctional families that are around today, single parenthoods, drug abusing families, personality disorders, etc, have given rise to a population of which a large chunk have some messed up internal beliefs.

There are women out there who will aid you in your dreams and give support. The women I have in my life is an example of that. On the other hand women are more likely to take the safe route and encourage men to do the same. Men are more likely to take risks so of course there will be a clash between the two ways of thinking.

What you earn is yours to spend, I completly agree except in the case if you have children together. Then there are more things to take into consideration. Being selfish and just buying stuff for yourself when you have a family is not really ok. I can speak from my own experience when my father bought guitars and spent a lot of money on himself while I had to wear hand me down clothes.

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I don’t see how three persons can be generalised into an entire gender, it’s just cherry picking evidence. Expressing themselves like they did shows they are bad people and most likely part of the feminazi movement. Those beliefs are not that of the general population (except maybe last one), check likes to commentratio on the breastfeeding one, Im sure she got zinged pretty bad in those comments. What’s the problem, say no to her if she wants you to control how you spend your money, or better yet, never get involved with such a person. No need to get upset or angry over it. That’s the beauty of MGTOW, not having to put up with such behavior to get female approval.

IMO it’s enough to have self respect and to be able to set boundries to ward off most behavior which is misandric in nature. Putting oneself in a victimhood role is disempowering.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I don’t see how three persons can be generalised into an entire gender, it’s just cherry picking evidence.

That’s reasonable. But get 100 girlfriends, and then leave your own house without telling them where you’re going. Maybe go wash the car. Or go to the hardware store. Or go see a movie. Anything you want. Or go drinking with your buddy. 100% of them will give you grief when you return. Why is she angry? Because you didn’t tell her and get her approval first. That’s not supportive. 100% of women hate it when go have fun without them. Tell your wife your being deployed to Afghanistan to be a soldier for your country and the last thing you’re gonna get is “support”. When you return 9 months later, you can pretty well count on the fact that she rode another dick while you were fighting for her most basic freedoms and liberties. It isn’t just 3 examples, man.

It’s obvious we understand each other but it’s up to each of us to put things into proper perspective too:

What you earn is yours to spend, I completly agree except in the case if you have children together. Then there are more things to take into consideration. Being selfish and just buying stuff for yourself when you have a family is not really ok.

Buying yourself a $50,000 car is perfectly OK when you have 2 children. Considering it costs $250K to raise each child to 18…. in doing so, you are spending only 10% of that on yourself. It’s hardly “selfish”. Selfish is anyone who says you can’t do that. That’s what I meant by putting it in perspective.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MjolnirParticipant 23]

 

If you live together then I can sort of see you’d want each other to know where you are. You did make a decision to live together. Stuff like that comes down to common decency, I’ve lived together with mates of mine and we always told each other where we’d go when we went out. Just made things easier. I’m ok with telling where I am going if I have decided I want to live together with a person, but not ok with getting s~~~ for having fun or doing what I enjoy doing. Might seem similar, but hugely different. The first I’d do for a mate, the second I would never do for a mate. That a women cheat on deployed soldiers wouldn’t surprise me though, that’s pretty s~~~ty behavior.

I don’t really buy into the whole 100% of x do that. Got no interest in trying to prove women are this or that. MGTOW for me isn’t based on that at all but self ownership. Having to prove women are this or that is a pursuit in folly and it doesn’t really effect my ownership at all. If they cannot jump the first hurdles which is showing me respect and respecting my boundries, then she wont even make it into my life.

 

Children have no way to take care of themselves or make any money. That’s the big difference. If money is short and one person decides to spend most of the cash on himself that’s selfish, I would never do it myself if I had kids. If one isn’t willing to spend money on the kids then don’t get a kid and spend everything on yourself. That’s every mans right and that is NOT selfish imo.

[LiveFreeParticipant 172]

@keymaster: Holy s~~~!!! I can’t believe that vile and disgusting subhuman filth like the school admissions woman and the woman advising mothers not to breastfeed their male babies exist. I wish I’d not seen that post of yours because now I’m so full of rage. These horrible c~~~s are truly retarded. Feminism is indeed a vile ideology.

For every man truly going his own way, some woman, somewhere, has to pay her own way through life.

[TheNinjaUWannaH8Participant 386]

Oh Shiet!  Here we go…You Guys know how I feel about this Monkey F~~~Shiet…

I love Women.  A Lot.

I Love Pussy.  A Whole Lot!

I just can’t stand “Bitches”.   There’s a distinct Frucking Difference.  And Because of Bitches, it’s a Pain in the Anus to get Pussy.

Muthaf~~~as…We’re in a Major Frucking International Pandemic.  Like the 17,000+ Stock Market, the markey is Bullish on “Bitches” and Bearish on “Women”.

Key Master said: “But haven’t you noticed as a man, navigating the world isn’t just about you doing your best (or better) or bringing the best out of yourself…. because the gynocracy works EXTREMELY HARD at battling against you – preventing you from doing so.”

Hell Yeah!!!

You think you met a “Woman” you can have an EQUAL and ENDURING RELATIONSHIP with and then Fruckin’ Discover 1, 3, 5, 7, 10 years later you Wifed-Up a Hypergamic, Hypermaterialist “Botch”.  And She has Killed your Frucken Dreams!!!

Bitches are Everywhere like SHAMWOWs…Absorbing Penises and Nuts in their 20s and 30s like Crazy F~~~.

Love a Woman if you’re Lucky.  But F~~~ a Bitch.

 

 
<h3>When things go wrong, as they sometimes Will, When the road you’re trudging seems all Uphill,When the funds are low and the debts are High, And you want to smile, but you have to Sigh,When care is pressing you down a Bit, Rest if you must, but Don’t Wife a Bitch.She’ll Milk you like an Utter with her Fits and Turns, As every Many Muthaf~~~as have often Learned,

An ex-PUA thought his Game would give him Clout, But Dumb Fruck got Jacked because he Stuck the “Mirage” Out.A Mangina fell in love with Ole’ Pussy and learned real Fast, She’ll suck you Dry and F~~~ your Ass.Kept the ring, Kept his Car…Kept the kids, the house and the Dog named “Favre”

But a MGTOW is the Struggler who has Given up, Explored his own Interests and Captured the victor’s Cup;But Others learned too late when the Shiet went Down, How close they were Not to the Golden Crown.No Life living with Your Nuts hanging FREE, Eating the f~~~ you want, coming in at Three

So F~~~ a Fight or getting f~~~ing Hit, Take it from me…Don’t Wife a Bitch.</h3>

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Not at all.  Actually, I believe I love women more than most men do.  Why?  Because I don’t want them to act like men. I want them to act like women, have the role of women, have their dignity protected as being women, etc.  Being disgusted and angered by their behavior, that is reinforced  through feminism, only proves the value I believe they have.  Correcting someone for wrong behavior is a greater act of love than allowing them to continue in a self destructive manner.

Like keymaster said, indifference is worse than hatred.  Hatred still requires one to put another before oneself, self sacrifice, passion, etc.  In many ways it is similar to love, so even those women who feel hated should take it as a complement and not as an insult.  They are just upset because it is in their nature to never be satisfied.

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