Keymaster, I suspect you and I might know each other on alternative forums. 🙂 I don’t know David D myself and its been years since I’ve read any of his material but I’ve been a regular at his forums for the past 10 years.
I will add that SS is a decent forum with a lot of valuable members (its where Rollo hails from). And much of the current ‘talk’ revolves around rebutting feminist claims and leftoid garbage. They also have some fairly decent tutorial material in the form of a game bible for which you should read if you are a complete newbie. There is nothing wrong with helping people to meet women, the problems start when sh1tlib retards flood the forums and start preaching their puszy focused hipster bullsh1t. If DD, roosh and even the Keymaster succeed in making money off their websites for me thats perfectly ok because it keeps membership on forums like this one operational and free. Men need some place to learn red pill and talk about it and bandwidth isn’t free, or cheap for that matter.
I have met a lot of people in real life, from the forums, some good, some not so good. I met one fellow off of Roosh who proceeded to tell me he only cared about one person in life, himself. He was also extremely arrogant and a know-it-all. I was set to hook him up with a friend of mine when he launched into a rant about pumping and dumping clingy women that he got pregnant. Apparently they inconvenienced him so much that he had to skip town. I don’t think it serves any man to be fully against women or the things women do, they are just gravitating towards their natural instincts: Children, Protection, Nesting. Rarely do SANE women want to assist men in having a completely physical relationship, that said how much of the West can be considered sane at this point? Injustices and abuses, certainly… but manosphere denizens need to stop themselves before going full retard or else they just end up looking like narcissistic c~~~s.
The problem with red pill extremists is that they often times mimic feminist extremist behavior. Both hate the other sex, lack integrity or personal responsibility, both exhibit whore like tendencies, and seem to think children are a blight upon the earth or a trap laid by the other. I like to think that MGTOW can level out both playing fields, PUA/RedPill and help them refocus on pressing political issues and coming together as men for change and to build new traditional family strongholds.
The current pickup sites offer nothing of value beyond getting a woman into bed. Relationship dynamics require much more than simple openers and push pull techniques. PUAs are at a complete loss when they bed feminist 0’s and accidentally get them pregnant (the natural outcome of sex) and generally push for abortions. I believe we need to teach young men a sense of responsibility to both women and themselves if we ever want to see societal change. Women are ‘supposed to’ be taught to follow the male lead and if the male has no idea what he’s doing, of course the female is going to set herself to the same crash course. What our young men are doing is heavily influencing the behaviors of young women, for every man who fails to stand up and take the lead, a woman is created to stand in his place. How can women have any respect for themselves when they are convinced men only value what lies between their legs. Western women have no idea how to be mothers, clean or cook and its almost a ‘hate crime’ in 1st world countries to suggest they learn these crucial skills. PUAs tell me frequently, that women are simply worthless and she be used as such. Correction: WESTERN EDUCATED women are worthless and should be avoided like the plague. I’m not placing the blame on men as I realize feminism wasn’t just a male construct but the PUA is designed to work WITHIN feminism to gain sexual access. This is wholly detrimental and the solution is to simply discard damaged females and find ones that don’t subscribe to cultural marxism.
The solution is simple but I don’t see why more western men aren’t taking it: venture out into the accursed earth and find women from countries where poverty, death and disease are ever present without a strong family unit. Not rich/educated women mind you, but the poorest of the poor, those will be the females most grateful for anything you can offer and happy with a bowl full of rice and a glass of water. These types are generally pleasant to be around and are satisfied with the simple things: family, food and shelter. They know what its like to bust their ass in the field working for a pitance and have a bit more respect when you come home from a hard day at the office. I only know this because it was my journey through PUA, MGTOW and red pill to where I am today. The problem we are starting to encounter is that irresponsible idiot PUAs from various sites like Roosh and RSD who are just looking to chalk up lays are entering the foreign countries and preying upon the local population. They are spreading the very disease which corrupted the West in the first place.
My hope is that MGTOWs are better than this, stable and stronger more responsible people.. Generally men who have been through the ringer once or twice already, know what they want and have boundaries that other men can respect. MGTOWs, in my opinion, are community pillars and staunch defenders that we desperately need in a normal functioning society. Red Pillers and PUAs have yet to accept their place in the manosphere where MGTOWs understand the end game. Maybe there is yet one more evolution and I hope most of you stick around to see it.
Ronin: Western women may not be worth your time but most certainly western children are.
Russky 4 years, 10 months ago.
