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Let’s face it – as horrible and disgusting as women are
You don’t really think women are “horrible and disgusting”….. because you wouldn’t be willing to stick your dick in something “horrible and disgusting”.
Do Most MGTOW No Longer Desire Sex with Women?
Drop the 5-letter label. It’s just MEN. The “going their own way” part has less to do with “avoiding women” than it does to protecting and preserving ourSELVES. You place far too much importance on them if you’re “going your own way” because of them.
Do you know the difference between “going their own way” and “avoiding horrible and disgusting”??
It’s actually an inappropriate question.
Why is it even fit for conversation?MGTOW have demoted the female to a secondary consideration at best. She’s an AFTERTHOUGHT and not a primary motivator for anything.
Some guys buy fancy shoes, watches and cars just to be more attractive women. A MGHOW doesn’t give a s~~~. Some guys will cross the room just to talk to an attractive female and pay her compliment. A MGHOW doesn’t give a s~~~. Some guys go to the gym for years to be more attractive to women. But is that really a sensible motivator?
Because unless you would cross the room to tell a fugly woman that she’s fat & ugly …. why would you cross a room to tell a woman she’s pretty? She can’t help being naturally attractive — just like an UN-atttractive woman can’t help it.
Either way it’s silly.
In my personal life, “sex” isn’t even on the table as a suitable conversation topic. I refuse to discuss it with anyone who I’m not sleeping with. Even in relationships I didn’t “talk about it”. We just did it.
It’s nobody’s business.
Women only attempt to MAKE it their business … because that’s their whole “business”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.You guys are certainly interesting, I’ll give you that.
That reads like someone outside, looking in.
As for the 42 yr old virgin: you need to do something.
Misery likes company, eh?
You have deprived yourself of life’s most enjoyable thing. Trust me.
No.
Anonymous42A MGHOW doesn’t give a s~~~.
Not true, consider this my giving a s~~~!
Eyes Wide Open is a chump!
As for the 42 yr old virgin: you need to do something.
Misery likes company, eh?
I have done something. I’ve walked away from women. Job done!
NO GIRL-FRIEND/WIFE = HAPPY LIFE.
Anonymous12There IS something wrong with never having sex. I do not know if you live in a big city where pro’s are easily available but you must do it at least once. You have deprived yourself of life’s most enjoyable thing. Trust me.
Lol
There is something wrong with you if you never get to sit in an F-14 Tomcat and get shot off a Carrier.
(nope)You must do it at least once.
(nope)It is the most enjoyable thing in life
(and after that happens, its all downhill? – NOPE)You dear friend, need to have tons of sex, tons of pepperoni Pizza, until you get bored of it/till you get the s~~~s.
Sex is great!
But it is not the purpose you stand up every morning.
… right????Problems > Pleasure
This is why banging c~~~s don’t worth your time. More problems than pleasure.
F~~~ once, and 30 years after that, she will claim that was abused.
Marry her, and get divorce raped.
The list goes on and on…I bet Russian roulette with a single round in a revolver is pretty exciting when you do it as well. Does the potential danger outweigh the potential pleasure?. Hell yes it does.
"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"
Being MGTOW is not about giving up sex, it is not being a woman’s slave or bitch, not getting married, not living with a woman, and no relationship. Hiring escorts or pros is fine and that is what I do, it is so much cheaper in the long haul and there is no nagging or bitching as once your done with her you leave or she leaves.
Just be careful on who you hire/see as you don’t want an STD or to get some druggie/junkie. Be smart about it and know how/where to research or review so your getting the women who are safe.
I am 30 so giving up sex is not an option in my book, I see no reason to sacrifice that part of life until my junk no longer works.
Being MGTOW is not about giving up sex, it is not being a woman’s slave or bitch, not getting married, not living with a woman, and no relationship. Hiring escorts or pros is fine and that is what I do, it is so much cheaper in the long haul and there is no nagging or bitching as once your done with her you leave or she leaves.
Just be careful on who you hire/see as you don’t want an STD or to get some druggie/junkie. Be smart about it and know how/where to research or review so your getting the women who are safe.
I am 30 so giving up sex is not an option in my book, I see no reason to sacrifice that part of life until my junk no longer works.
By George I think he got I. Bravo! Totally agree with you, brother. Hope these guys who are so afraid of what they so eloquently call “tuna meat hole” do not harass you like they have me. Best to you!
Anonymous1As for the 42 yr old virgin: you need to do something. There IS something wrong with never having sex. I do not know if you live in a big city where pro’s are easily available but you must do it at least once. You have deprived yourself of life’s most enjoyable thing. Trust me.
More virgin shaming eh? I’ve never been interested in the all powerful pussy that you worship. Man is the master of his own destiny. You won’t find any wisdom inside a woman’s hole, thats for sure. Keep pumping and dumping bro, let me know how that works out for you.
By George I think he got I. Bravo! Totally agree with you, brother. Hope these guys who are so afraid of what they so eloquently call “tuna meat hole” do not harass you like they have me. Best to you!
The thing is they are not afraid though, they simply choose not to have sex for their own reasons, every man makes a choice based on their experiences and those who don’t want sex with women anymore are tired of their s~~~.
I have not been f~~~ed over like many of the men here but I have seen guys I know completely f~~~ed HARD, and divorce raped which is why I went MGTOW. Will I ever date a woman ? maybe but not long term, will I get married ? hell no cause I refuse to get divorce raped.
The man does most of the work in sex, as the best sex is had when the man treats the woman like a ragdoll f~~~toy to be thrown around. The man does the work and the woman expects repeat performance for continued affections. When the man dominates the sexual dynamic, the woman is happy.
For things to work and sex to be had constantly, man needs to do the work correctly. She wont tell you how to do things correctly, a man is expected to know it. Once the man understands the difference between BP and RP, he starts wondering why the hell is he doing all the work in bed and outside of it. A man should experience sex with a multitude of partners, from HB4 to HB9 to understand that the pussy and the mouth will feel exactly the same despite the looks. A man should experience sex with the really proficient women and the relative newcomers to understand that her skill is ultimately rather meaningless.
When the man understands and has experienced sex with a wide range of partners, he can see how little anything changes. Throw in a dozen more partners or a hundred, the experience of sex changes little. Yet every time the man is expected to do most of the work and take most of the s~~~ with the end result being a satisfied woman. A virgin or someone who’s had sex with one or two partners will feel the allure of chasing tail, increase the numbers and it becomes meaningless. Sex with a HB10 means the man has the ability to attract a woman near or at the top of the Sexual Marketplace. You as the man managed to stick your dick into a hole desired and dreamed of by many men who will never get the chance. Ego will inflate. Inner-self will feel validated. After that, there’s nothing. The pussy is of said HB10 is little different from the lower SMV women.
Most of it is in our heads. They’re all walking holes to screw, and we’re the walking pieces of meat to give it to them. The rest is game and both sides understand it. It feels good when Norah the HB9 calls you and asks you out for beers knowing that she calls just you because she knows you f~~~ her better than anyone. Great, tell me something I don’t know. Sorry Norah, I’d rather wax poeting and philosophical with friends who understand such things than again give you more pleasure than you give me.
The Red Pill vouches by IDGAF, I think MGTOW vouches by WDGAF. Literally.
Welcome! And I agree with you 100%. I’ve had the top market girl before, gorgeous and smart, a former college athlete who kept in shape, good paying job and a luxury car. But I learned one thing: she was no different than any other woman. The sex is relatively the same, and so is the headache. #IceThemOut
Sovereignty above all else.
Cheers and thanks for the welcome. I wrote that while drunk off my ass, booze tends to bring out the truth. I believe most of us here can relate to you and I. Despite that, I want to believe Disney and love have their small place in truth. No matter how unrealistic that is. What the hell men got to defend if neither of those holds a shred of thruth?
The thing about being MGTOW is that your sex drive is invested in other areas, so it’s more like you USED to be an alcoholic, but all the money you USED to spend on booze is now diverted into things like working out, reading, learning a new language, writing your 1st book….
So the time you spend on all these other things makes your remember and think “did I lose my sex drive?
I see women, still cute and sexy, but their place on the totem pole is way way down.
"You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock
I don’t know if anybody else goes through this, but there came a point in my life where I seen all the bulls~~~ and lies and hypocrisy with them that one day “click” and I was turned off from them. I literally find them to be nothing but stress, meat, and extra stink. To me they are all the children that never fully grown up. I also see myself higher than them.
Even the ones that try to sleep with me I refuse and tell them not in the mood and I see disappointing looks or they try harder. I literally feel no spark with them and no temptations.
But eventually this isolation becomes peaceful and you don’t want to deal with peoples bulls~~~. You feel better and better the more you go your own way.
What people call "love" is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle. Rise above. Focus on science.
How do you feel about this? I feel that unless something totally miraculous happens I am never going to f~~~ a woman again unless I pay a pro. And as much as I believe in the MGTOW philosophy the thought of not being able to get sex – not a relationship – but sex, well, it still upsets me. Let’s face it – as horrible and disgusting as women are they are a great receptacle for sex (although forget about head – I only ever had one, maybe two who could do it right). It’s also an amazing ego boost. I know, I know – that is why they have all the power.
Thoughts? Thanks.
I wanted to start my own topic on sex, but since this is already out there, I’ll share, even if nobody reads it.
I personally do not think that sex with a woman is significantly better than the solo alternative. The sensation is ultimately so similar, the value that she adds to the experience is not really worth the extreme costs of getting to that point with her. But still I argue a finer point that even if it was a one-night stand with someone without disease and it was unprotected, still it rivals the self in many ways. It could be an age thing, as I am middle aged but a younger middle age.
I think the real reason guys think that sex with an actual woman beats wacking is a self-fulfilling prophecy: they had to put in a lot of work to get it, then by definition, it should be better. Way better. But it’s not.
I really feel like I’m probably bashing my head up against a brick wall to go against the last true bastian of female value for men. I would be willing to go a step further that I believe that most younger guys, as mgtow as they can be, are going to have a tough time against that belief they have about real sex, no matter how they got to that point in their thinking about the female. It could be not so much self-fulfilling, but self-created or even experience-related. Maybe it is generated by the media they have seen: free porn, for some years now, has been readily available.
I was 14 when I had my foolish heart set on losing my virginity. Every time I met a girl, I wanted to keep taking it further. I got that wish in about a year’s time, but it came with a price. She was interested in unprotected sex. The day did not take long to arrive when I was without condom. She did not get pregnant, but a few months later, we couldn’t get along, I broke up with her, she claimed she was pregnant. The misery that came down on me, with incredible shock, I would caution any man against.
Having escaped that trap, naturally I thought I was invincible. So my main objective was to go from bed to bed. I had no morals. The ensuing years were spiritually dark: I was always in fear of disease, pregnancy, and the turmoil of drama that women create, I would say overall contributed to a lot of unhappiness.
It wasn’t until my very recent divorce that I realized the nature of the problem. Girls learn at a very young age, I have witnessed, that their biggest tool is controlling people with their emotions. This kind of manipulation is witchcraft, and it’s a spiritual sickness I see in all kinds of women, in all kinds of professions, everywhere. Maybe a “permanent epidemic” is a better way to put it.
The female uses a secret formula of sex appeal, emotions and rewards to control the male. She does not care about necessarily the order of what happens among the love, sex and marriage tools. If a child is needed to cement a weaker response from the provider, then a child will occur. The child is a tool. And the end result of the mind manipulation, or the female mindgame hex is the extraction of resources from the male.
Nothing else matters to the female. They rarely have time for hobbies, inventions, chit-chat, or research. Usually the female pretends to be religious. This is so that the Alpha male believes she has a moral weakness. Of course, in most relationships, neither the male nor the female comprehend any real theology. God is a mere sociopathic camouflage for the female to appear as bait, before she becomes the hook. The hunted becomes the hunter.
I hope somebody reads all this drivel I just wrote…
Note the number of times in the Bible that Jesus uses "he" when speaking to groups...
Hi, Eyes Wide Open! I thank you for joining the forum!
Your question about whether MGTOW men continue to like and/or desire sex after taking the red pill is an interesting one. Here’s my take:
I can only speak for myself, but I personally have chosen to not be sexually active. I have been sexually active in the past when I was in my early 20’s (I am 40 now) and I can honestly tell you I truly don’t miss it. For me, sex is something that should be done in the bonds of marriage as that, in my belief system, is the proper time and place for that particular expression. Sex for me is not an end in and of itself. Rather it is part of something. Part of the whole that is marriage. That is one of the frustrations of MGTOW men actually. Most MGTOW men are good men at their core, but they have woken up to the reality of how women, marriage, family court and societal values are today. The deck is stacked against men in today’s gynocentric world.
Sex is the main tool that women use to control men. It is not that MGTOW men do not desire sex, it is just that most MGTOW men personally have taken a step back and thought with the big head for a change. Sex is very risky today, even for married couples. One in four women have an STD, false rape and sexual assault accusations are rampant today and more women now than ever are duping men into getting them pregnant on purpose so they can go after the guy in court for cash and prizes.
Again, I can only speak for myself but taking these things into consideration when the topic of sex comes up, for me, it is simply not worth the risk, despite the pleasures involved. I find more enjoyment in spending the day on the PS4 or hanging out with a good friend or going ice fishing and enjoying a good cigar or some good pipe tobacco!
But, that is the essence of MGTOW! MGTOW stands for Men Going Their Own Way. Which means exactly that. All the men on this website have chosen to go their own way and take accountability for that way. There are many men on this site who are very sexually active and they will need to take responsibility and accountability if and when that comes back to bite them. These men know this and are willing to accept the consequences of that risk.
I hope I have answered your inquiry some, Eyes Wide Open!
Catch you on the forums!
Girls learn at a very young age, I have witnessed, that their biggest tool is controlling people with their emotions. This kind of manipulation is witchcraft, and it’s a spiritual sickness I see in all kinds of women, in all kinds of professions, everywhere. Maybe a “permanent epidemic” is a better way to put it.
Nothing else matters to the female….Neither the male nor the female comprehend any real theology. God is a mere sociopathic camouflage for the female to appear as bait, before she becomes the hook. The hunted becomes the hunter.
I hope somebody reads all this drivel I just wrote…
I did.. Thanks for sharing, you’re pretty spot on!
It’s encouraging to see newer members or some with low Star counts post. New insight is always rejuvenating…My experience has left me verra guarded and skeptical of most women. As I get older I get better at seeing red flags,
For just the reasons the last two brothers shared.
I’ll date, but it is usually for a verra short time…I have done the escort thing. Its convenient, safe, and the little cutey is great in bed.
So many great replies here, when men share from their own experiences.Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!I don’t care about sex. Which is why I’m asexual. Not because women are toxic, have std’s and because I want to avoid a rape allegation. Mitigating risk doesn’t make someone “asexual”. An overwhelming majority would f~~~ a woman if the circumstances were different. That’s not asexual. People like me, who genuinely don’t care for, and don’t want sex because we have no active interest in it, aka, it does nothing for us – are an actual minority. Even within MGTOW.
90% of the time, I find looking at a woman’s vagina repulsive. It’s a horrid looking thing, and most women have terrible hygiene.
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