Do Most MGTOW No Longer Desire Sex with Women?

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

Hey guys. I’m new here but trying to learn as much as I can. I know that even people who identify with one political party usually differ on some key platform issues. Understanding that everyone is their own person, I am reading that some MGTOW have seemed to have given up on the idea of sex with women. Some seem to feel empowered and get it when they can without any intent of pursuing a relationship. Others seem fine to never have a woman ever again (that thought horrifies me).

How do you feel about this? I feel that unless something totally miraculous happens I am never going to f~~~ a woman again unless I pay a pro. And as much as I believe in the MGTOW philosophy the thought of not being able to get sex – not a relationship – but sex, well, it still upsets me. Let’s face it – as horrible and disgusting as women are they are a great receptacle for sex (although forget about head – I only ever had one, maybe two who could do it right). It’s also an amazing ego boost. I know, I know – that is why they have all the power.

I may not perform like I did when I was in my twenties, and although I was a late bloomer I was lucky to have one girlfriend – my most serious – who was a total pig. But I still want sex.

But I refuse to pursue them in any way. My blue pill friends would say, well, you’re not going to get laid staying home getting drunk and watching TV. But I refuse to put myself out there and waste time and money and give myself an anxiety attack.

Thoughts? Thanks.

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

The kind of women who are willing to have repeat sex with you when you don’t support their vision of a domestic relationship are either professionals, or diseased sluts. Most of the men who advocate the pump and dump philosophy are called dads.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

With women or sex, its always going to be trade-offs.

My sex drive shriveled up and died very rapidly. Seems like only a few months. I can still perform just fine, I just don’t want to.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

You’re right. To find a “decent” woman who just wants to play around is near impossible unless you are rich or incredibly good looking…and they will start want you to become serious because you’re rich and good looking.

I have this friend who is a total loser. He is in his 50s. Always gets mistaken for a woman (seriously). And he has been hooking up once a week with an older coworker who is crazy about him. She cooks for him, buys him clothes. He does not have to pay for anything. He says the sex is amazing. And he made it clear he does not want a relationship and the old lady is fine with this.

Unf~~~ingbelievable. Now tell me there’s a God.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

You’re right. To find a “decent” woman who just wants to play around is near impossible unless you are rich or incredibly good looking…and they will start want you to become serious because you’re rich and good looking.

I have this friend who is a total loser. He is in his 50s. Always gets mistaken for a woman (seriously). And he has been hooking up once a week with an older coworker who is crazy about him. She cooks for him, buys him clothes. He does not have to pay for anything. He says the sex is amazing. And he made it clear he does not want a relationship and the old lady is fine with this.

Unf~~~ingbelievable. Now tell me there’s a God.

Is not a miracle, if he is 50, she is desperated to get as little attention as posible, in a few months she will ask for more.

They always do.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Golgotha777Participant 326]

Of course I like sex. Most men do. But I am aware of the fact that any relationship over a long enough time period is going to lead to the prospect of marriage which is out of the question. I have no legal guarantees that would protect me from my wife. That being the case, I wouldn’t want to waste anyone else’s time.

As the laws get worse and worse, like Yes means Yes, and all the crazy women (all of them) I’ve dated, even the prospect of even a Friends With Benefits arrangement has become questionable.

My advice is do what you have to do to satisfy your nature but be safe as possible. No one here wants to tell you what to do, MGTOW is just a warning to men. You get to choose what you do with it.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

In my case, I do like sex, but it comes with Soo much trouble and the risk of deseases, it is just too much.

Im 33 and considered a “good catch “. My ego doesn’t need any boost from a leecherous existence. I discovered since my vasectomy that since the reproductive drive is non existent I find more pleasure at the gym than with a women.

Im usually ok with my own company, Soo I don’t feel lonely at all.

Sex is overrated, most men just enjoy the feeling of being “macho” if you need to conquer woman to feel like a men, you own manhood is at doubt, well dude is probably gay… just saying.

Does really sex is worth the risk, insanity, effort and health hazards?

F~~~ that s~~~.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

OP: Being MGTOW has nothing to do with sex, per ‘se. It has everything to do with NEVER engaging in a relationship with a woman again. EVER. Never give up your sovereignty, your income/resources or self respect to a woman again. Pump & Dump all you want, whenever you can: Nothing wrong with that. Your focusing on the wrong things. Truth is, you sound like you are still a slave to the vag….gotta get over that.

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[TheDudeParticipant 724]

If unwilling to do some kind of chasing, most men are not gonna get much sex. The vast majority of women will only chase the top 20% of men.

So you have three choices.

1. Stop caring about sex.
2. Compromise in some way to get sex.
3. Elevate yourself into the top 20%.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

TheDude wrote:

If unwilling to do some kind of chasing, most men are not gonna get much sex. The vast majority of women will only chase the top 20% of men.

So you have three choices.

1. Stop caring about sex.
2. Compromise in some way to get sex.
3. Elevate yourself into the top 20%.

Bahhhh sex is easy to get.

Satisfactory sex… not much, you can’t go all out with a women you don’t know, unless you have a death wish.

And to get a regular lover mean S~~~ STORM.

Not worthy, if I ever feel like I really need it, a sexbot it is, I got the money for it stored, but I don’t think I will ever use it.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[JVBParticipant]

I do enjoy sex, until I’m done. Bitch has gats to go !!

Peace is > piece.

[TheDudeParticipant 724]

Carnage wrote:

TheDude wrote:

If unwilling to do some kind of chasing, most men are not gonna get much sex. The vast majority of women will only chase the top 20% of men.

So you have three choices.

1. Stop caring about sex.
2. Compromise in some way to get sex.
3. Elevate yourself into the top 20%.

Bahhhh sex is easy to get.

Tell that to the 40 year old virgins that would literally kill themselves for a BJ.

The ease at which one gets sex, is directly proportional to ones perceived value.

Top 20% = Doesn’t have to try.
Average guy = Has to try but not too difficult.
Bottom 20% = Almost impossible (unless woman is a whale).

All men lose in the end though.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

I cannot believe what I am hearing. Of course sex is worth the risk!!! And what is the big risk if you f~~~ a girl you just met with a condom?

I am a newbie here but I am sensing a lot of guys here are either disinterested in sex, giving into the sad reality they won’t have it again without paying for it or do not hold it as a high priority.

Sorry but all my self-worth and self-esteem issues, since I was a kid, go back to not being able to pick up women. I have always felt this one aspect of my life has deemed me a pathetic loser, despite having accomplished things like publishing multiple books and having some minor artistic successes.

I have known since college women are no damn good. I never wanted kids. I hate kids. And I always knew when younger women do not want to hear that. Probably why I was into older women when I was young.

I do not mean to be critical but men are naturally libidinous. It’s a need. Even at my most depressed I still beat off once a day (more if not a work day).

Maybe I am just hornier than average. I don’t know. But men need sex and seek it out in all ways.

[TheDudeParticipant 724]

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

I cannot believe what I am hearing. Of course sex is worth the risk!!! And what is the big risk if you f~~~ a girl you just met with a condom?

Sperm-jacking, Rape allegations, assault allegations, clingyness and pressure to commit.

Granted, these things don’t happen to everyone, but they’re on the rise and still a definite risk.

The closer you get, the more the risk goes up.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Eyes Wide Open wrote:

I cannot believe what I am hearing. Of course sex is worth the risk!!! And what is the big risk if you f~~~ a girl you just met with a condom?

I am a newbie here but I am sensing a lot of guys here are either disinterested in sex, giving into the sad reality they won’t have it again without paying for it or do not hold it as a high priority.

Sorry but all my self-worth and self-esteem issues, since I was a kid, go back to not being able to pick up women. I have always felt this one aspect of my life has deemed me a pathetic loser, despite having accomplished things like publishing multiple books and having some minor artistic successes.

I have known since college women are no damn good. I never wanted kids. I hate kids. And I always knew when younger women do not want to hear that. Probably why I was into older women when I was young.

I do not mean to be critical but men are naturally libidinous. It’s a need. Even at my most depressed I still beat off once a day (more if not a work day).

Maybe I am just hornier than average. I don’t know. But men need sex and seek it out in all ways.

You’re not going to find your self-worth in a meat hole with meat flaps.

And I got laid twice this weekend with the gf.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[TrailbossParticipant 1844]

“I do not mean to be critical but men are naturally libidinous. It’s a need. Even at my most depressed I still beat off once a day (more if not a work day).”

Don’t be presumptuous young buck. You are presuming that because YOU cannot stop yourself from giving in to the weakness, that everyone *else* must suffer the same weakness. It is a form of self-validation. To learn otherwise, that other men are *not* subject to that weakness, is to learn that you are simply weak…and a simp in waiting. Do not project your weakness on others.

An educated, armed populace cannot be enslaved.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

Another thing I am observing with this “it’s just a meat hole” business is a sense that a lot of you do not like pussy. My joke is I love pussy, I just hate the bitch it comes attached to. If pussy was sold separately I’d buy a six-pack.

Again, hate women but love pussy. I mean, love to do everything with it. Just confused about some MGTOW views here. And yeah, I don’t want them around afterwards either. Only the one girlfriend I actually loved I wanted to be with before and after sex.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

TheDude wrote:

Carnage wrote:

TheDude wrote:

If un-willing to do some kind of chasing, most men are not gonna get much sex. The vast majority of women will only chase the top 20% of men.

So a man has three choices:

1. Stop caring about sex.
2. Compromise in some way to get sex.
3. Elevate yourself into the top 20%.

Bah, sex is easy to get.

Tell that to the 40 year old virgins that would literally kill themselves for a blow-job.

The ease at which one gets sex, is directly proportional to one’s perceived value.

Top 20% = Doesn’t have to try.
Average guy = Has to try, but not too difficult.
Bottom 20% = Almost impossible, unless woman is a land-whale.

All men lose in the end though.

Well, I’m a 42 year old virgin, better-than-average looking, but I used to be the Nice Guy type (I was brought-up that way), and so I never triggered any woman’s attraction mechanism… and I never got a blow-job either! LOL.

Anyway, since learning the truth about women, it has killed my sexual desire. I DGAF about women/sex anymore. I always was Monk Mode, but I am MGTOW and NFG now as well.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

To be honest, back in March, I had blond gf and Asian gf just hours apart and then compared them to the fleshlight. I decided the fleshlight was better.

And that’s without taking into account STD, sperm-jacking, etc.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Eyes Wide OpenSpectator 47]

You guys are certainly interesting, I’ll give you that.

Being horny and having a normal desire for sex is not weakness. I am supposed to put on a front that I don’t care and because all women are c~~~s it is okay I am not getting any pussy? I cannot accept that. This does not help my depression.

As for the 42 yr old virgin: you need to do something. There IS something wrong with never having sex. I do not know if you live in a big city where pro’s are easily available but you must do it at least once. You have deprived yourself of life’s most enjoyable thing. Trust me.

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