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But when you make your sense of self-worth contingent on female attention, you often don’t even notice that you’re starting from a negative
That’s key right there. And if you let them, a female will ALWAYS keep you in the negative and you find yourself fighting just to get to zero.
Take another example. There are literally HUNDREDS.
She EXPECTS you to pay. Or She EXPECTS a certain gift for Christmas. No matter what you do, it’s not a +1. You bought her a gift, but because it’s not the gift she imagined in her head, she will behave like you treated her badly. This s~~~ even makes its way into everyday advertising:
You’re not married , you go out with a girl, you both have a great time, you go out with another girl because you prefer her company – and the first one will behave like you treated her badly – and you even PAID FOR THE EVENING. Now the modern female thinks it’s her “right” to smash your headlights and carve her name into the leather seats of your $65,000 car.
BEFORE he cheats:
Not even AFTER.
BEFORE:
/video/bill-burr-on-carrie-underwoods-before-he-cheats/
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It’s an endless stream of this s~~~ dealing with the modern / Americanized female. Have you ever just NOT done anything special for a woman on Feb. 14th and then called her up on the 15th and offered to take her out or do something nice for her? I have. Just to find out exactly what % of bitch she is. She behaved like I treated er badly and I needed to “apologize” now. What a f~~~ing c~~~. Expecting me to APOLOGIZE because I didn’t lavish her on the 14th, but I offered something nice for her on the 15th.
The % of p~~~ed off she is…. is the % of selfish bitch she is.
It’s not a +1. It never will be because she expected it. Even if you did exactly what she wanted , you’re at 0 – a great big fat zero. And if you find yourself doing anything for a woman that doesn’t count as a +1, dump that bitch immediately. You’re not going to be the chump who does all this s~~~ for her on the 14th just so you don’t spend the 15th apologizing to that t~~~. Now try explaining that to your blue-pill Everybody-Loves-(but nobody respects)-Raymond buddies who would “apologize” to his wife…… just for LOOKING at another female.
These men are doomed, I tell you.
If they took their heads out of their asses for 5 f~~~ing minutes to think of it in terms of integers, they would realize what they are throwing in the garbage and they are ALL wasting their f~~~ing time. Just to stay at ZERO.
The reality, there is no benefit dealing with broads like this.
THEY are the great big fat zero.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Everybody-Loves-(but nobody respects)-Raymond
One ex of mine LOVED watching Everybody loves Raymond…I couldn’t stand 30 seconds of it.
She would get mad that I wouldn’t watch it with her.
I told her “The wife acts like a selfish hateful bitch, and treats her husband like crap. It’s not funny or entertaining. It’s abuse. And I don’t want to watch that.”
Holy s~~~, did she explode….At least she didn’t ask me to watch it with her anymore…So the point I guess I’m trying to make is that a lot of guys put up with s~~~ tests because they have self respect, and they think that if they demonstrate their worth she will see him for who he is.
This right here is why I used to be caught up in the trap & never ending loop. This is how the web entangles and snares men over and over, that are in this vicious manipulative circle.
Once I corrected that to be this:
“So the point I am trying to make is that I being a man should NOT put up with s~~~ tests because I have self respect, and if I demonstrate that I will not wavier in my resolve on my self worth, she will see me for who I am. A man that she cannot trample on and dominate me.”
Once we no longer subject to that BS, the blinders come off, and we see s~~~ for what it really is.
Thanks Keymaster for all you shared in this thread. Very informative & educational.You cut to the quick of it and expose it for what it is & what it shouldn’t be.
One ex of mine LOVED watching Everybody loves Raymond…I couldn’t stand 30 seconds of it.
She would get mad that I wouldn’t watch it with her.And I thought being subject to 2 25-minute nightly episodes of “SexAndTheCity before sleepy time” was bad.
Biggest mistake I ever made – buying one of them the goddam box set for Christmas.Of course she loved it. Thats what the “ideal husband” is: A docile controlled schmuck, who never questions anything, tolerates everything, quietly pays for everything and never pesters her for sex. That idea gets them all warm and runny…. until they HAVE it. And then they hate his f~~~ing guts for the next 20 years.
But I am happy to hear she is an EX!
Good call, there.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11A docile controlled schmuck, who never questions anything, tolerates everything, quietly pays for everything and never pesters her for sex.
I fail on all points no wonder they hate me. They would love me if I were the abusive type.
I fail on all points no wonder they hate me.
Definitely something to be proud of. When a woman hates me, I know I’m doing everything right.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11Obviously, I was not enough of a sociopath for them to try to fix me.
I fail on all points no wonder they hate me.
Definitely something to be proud of. When a woman hates me, I know I’m doing everything right.
Words to live by.
I think MGTOW is more common sense related than IQ related.
Right on @chauvinistpig
I think it was Sidecar who said “MGTOW is just….. common sense for men”.
It spoke so well, we added it to the about page /about page animated presentation.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.No IQ required. Just honest self refection and social-awareness.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
Anonymous42She can stay home and play with her f~~~ing barbie dolls.
That one was from the heart! Ha HA HA LOf~~~ingL!!!
But when you make your sense of self-worth contingent on female attention, you often don’t even notice that you’re starting from a negative, even when in reality you’re starting with so f~~~ing much more.
Bravo Myself, that should be memorized by every man that doesn’t understand it (YET!) especially you young guys, that’s indicative of someone that doesn’t have “his” head in sand!
IQ scores mean jack s~~~ if you do not have logic, reason and common sense.
D-sin, it helps to be intelligent, but more important is developing the skills to “ACT” on your wisdom “immediately” taking ownership of yourself means “you’re the mechanic” it’s not up to anybody else! If you don’t change your oil (bad proclivities) the long term results are devastating.
Smart enough to know better, but stupid enough not to do better.
Life is a demolition derby with modern narcissistic “f~~~ed in the head” women, why participate in their field as an old worn out s~~~-box (in their minds), wouldn’t you rather be the concrete wall that smashes their bulls~~~ into total wreckage? NEVER let their s~~~ get under your skin? Not even so much as a flinch? How? ManRoll their peanut thinking into peanut butter! Be solid and with a never ending vigilance for your “self ownership”.
Letting others tread on the property of your “own being”, is like letting your house be used as public lands.This is a awesome topic that has a lot of layers. Obviously, all of MGTOW have some degree of intelligence because we have either learned from our mistakes or the mistakes of others. However, the question is why don’t other men of equal intelligence not see the reality of our current man-woman dynamic and avoid the storm of marriage? Perhaps MGTOW have a higher degree of common sense or situational IQ. I’m certainly not going to be invited to Mensa, but I have witnessed highly intelligent people marry and regret it then repeat the same mistake.
"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."
Keymaster, you and others have been gold in this thread, Another menber posted a while back asking about Briggs-Meyer personality types of MGTOW and the vast majority were one type, INTP. Highly analytical minds that use feedback from their environment to form their opinions and actions. That may play a bigger role and follow KM’s grenade theory. An INTP actually acknowledges that the previous grenades went off and caused damage, where other personality types because of their need for validation through other people convince themselves that “If I don’t pull the pin on this one, I’ll be less of a man.” I understand my place in the IQ spectrum and I’ve seen from reading the forum long enough that there are people above and below me on that.
Another possibility is that EQ plays a role in the decision to go MGTOW. I frequently refer to myself as a sociopath because I don’t care if feelings are hurt by an observation I make. I also don’t care about man made rules other than the negative effects that they could have on my wallet or my ability to move around freely. I could be judged to have a low EQ because of my lack of regard for the feelings of others or a need to fit into society.. INTP may have some correlation to low EQ, and a contributor to not feeling the need to fit in and follow the norms of the blue pills.
More than IQ, it may be a way of processing inputs form the World and choosing the path that reduces negative inputs.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Keymaster, you and others have been gold in this thread, Another menber posted a while back asking about Briggs-Meyer personality types of MGTOW and the vast majority were one type, INTP. Highly analytical minds that use feedback from their environment to form their opinions and actions. That may play a bigger role and follow KM’s grenade theory. An INTP actually acknowledges that the previous grenades went off and caused damage, where other personality types because of their need for validation through other people convince themselves that “If I don’t pull the pin on this one, I’ll be less of a man.” I understand my place in the IQ spectrum and I’ve seen from reading the forum long enough that there are people above and below me on that.
Another possibility is that EQ plays a role in the decision to go MGTOW. I frequently refer to myself as a sociopath because I don’t care if feelings are hurt by an observation I make. I also don’t care about man made rules other than the negative effects that they could have on my wallet or my ability to move around freely. I could be judged to have a low EQ because of my lack of regard for the feelings of others or a need to fit into society.. INTP may have some correlation to low EQ, and a contributor to not feeling the need to fit in and follow the norms of the blue pills.
More than IQ, it may be a way of processing inputs form the World and choosing the path that reduces negative inputs.Good input. I knew it would have to be SOMETHING separating mgtow from blue pillers, i wasn’t sure if it was IQ or what, but I wouldn’t be surprised if personality type had more of an effect.
I’m frequently tested as INFP.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist nor a Brain Surgeon to know the fire will not only burn you, but consume you.
“I currently have at LEAST five friends going through girl troubles (most of them with single moms) all at the same f~~~ing time and it is getting annoying to hear about”.
Easy, stop giving advice that will only be thrown out like old garbage. I had a close buddy of mine who was a typical serial dater, PUA to the max!. Few months go by, this f~~~er would get rejected, cheated on and lied to. This one girl burned Him so good, He had to go to the hospital for dehydration cause he was drinking enough water, all he was doing was at home was stewing over the fact that this c~~~ was somehow “Different”…
PFFFTTT, right. Anyhoo, He’d always come to me for advice, time and time again, after awhile He’d get burned again and again!. Well, I started to rethink giving advice because why waste knowledge on someone that will only turn against good advice and go back crawling to the pussy. No, f~~~ that. Be selective on the advice you give and who applies it. If someone applies my advice to their situation, you damn right I’ll keep giving them more.
As far as proving to a female goes?, Keymaster dropped some insane amount of jewels on the subject. Never prove yourself to ANY female, I learned that the hard way, BY GETTING BURNED. Don’t like the way I dress?, or how i act?, GO F~~~ YOURSELF!. Plain and simple.
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
I know it’s in Swedish, but I reckon the numbers are obvious enough. This is from my official Mensa-test.
PS: yeah yeah, I didn’t make membership, but I beat 93% of my fellow zombies….
Absolutely BRILLIANT!
“A flame is a flame. It looks like a flame all the time. You KNOW it’s a flame. You know what a flame does. And you know what a flame will do next time, so you don’t touch it anymore. But woman will actually sit across from you, work her ass off to try and tell you “not all fire will burn you”. Thats’ why you don’t listen to a goddam thing she says.”
I never thought about it before, but it’s true, AWALT. Great analogy in comparing ladies to fire. If you hang around long enough, or get careless, you probably will get burned.
For me personally, whenever I’m around ladies, I have found myself expending energy just to stay wary of their manipulation (which is always attempted).
In 1750 Benjamin Franklin, in his Poor Richard’s Almanack, observed: “There are three Things extremely hard, Steel, a Diamond, and to know one’s self.” I don’t know how smart we are, but I suspect many mgtow’s have come to know themselves by getting burned a few times.
Again, great post. Thanks.
but how many f~~~ing times do you have to be burned to realize that maybe you should distance yourself from the fire?
It took me more than it should have. My animal urges are more powerful than my common sense, or they were back when I was a teen and in my early twenties. After a few too many “what the hell did I do that for?” moments, I finally caught on and stopped sticking my tender things in fires.
You don’t have to be smart to be a MGHOW, but it really REALLY helps.
MGTOW learn from the mistakes of the past to avoid repeating them in the future. The smart MGTOW are the ones who learn from OTHER mens’ mistakes.
To me it MGTOW ultimately boils down to situational awareness.
Absolutely.
Once you recognize the world for how it really works, Going Your Own Way is the only rational response.
I think it was Sidecar who said “MGTOW is just….. common sense for men”.
I don’t think I was the first to say it. It’s too obvious for me to have been the first.
Since the c~~~s like to blame us for every thing, we became expert problem solvers.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
My IQ’s between 130 and 150
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