Divorce lawyer – help

[Andy789Participant 6]

Hi,

I think men should organise themselves and collaborate to change the legal system. We don’t have power because we don’t act collectively and we don’t protect each other’s interest. A charity fund could also be raised to support men in legal proceedings. Also an FAQ could be set up, cases collected and successful defense documented.

Right now I’m going through divorce and almost all the lawyers I can find are either female or supports female perspective.

Can anybody here recommend a family lawyer in the UK who is also mgtow or can and willing to represent that perspective?

If you know anybody please let me know I am in dire need.

If you know a popular mgtow forum in the UK please also let me know.

[RedwolfParticipant 38]

Hey Andy, welcome!

I’m not sure about the UK, but here in the states I hear radio ads all the time from firms who advertise as representing men only and specializing in protecting your earnings and assets as much as possible. I would guess you can find similar firms in the UK, but would certainly defer to some other members that may know better.

I’m near the end of my own divorce and wish you luck brother!

[Andy789Participant 6]

Thanks.

Congratulations! I hope you can celebrate at the end of your divorce.

I am waiting to hear from some of the UK members on this forum.

We should collect the experiences and build up a database of divorce cases for learning to others. I think that would be a valuable service. If you interested to participate let me know.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Andy789 wrote:

Thanks. Congratulations! I hope you can celebrate at the end of your divorce. I am waiting to hear from some of the UK members on this forum. We should collect the experiences and build up a database of divorce cases for learning to others. I think that would be a valuable service. If you interested to participate let me know.

Hi Andy789

I’m in London and sorry to say that lawyer’s I’ve encountered are …. s~~~.

They’re only there for the bucks and will drag the ‘battle’ out in order to earn more.

As a guy you’re more or less f~~~ed.

What I can suggest is that you get the divorce started yourself. Start reading up and do your own legwork…. you are after all the expert on your situation.

You will be surprised at what you will learn and how far you can go.

Then hire a lawyer to ‘represent’ you in court  …. and you tell them what’s going to happen.

Arm yourself with knowledge and you will achieve much more than a lawyer.

Good luck …. and we are here 24/7

[Andy789Participant 6]

Where can I read more about financial settlement in the UK? I can only find very high level information and mostly related to long marriage. Our one is short and we don’t have children.

[Sky-OParticipant 18951]

I don’t know anything about UK divorce law aside from reading about Paul McCartney’s divorce from the one legged slut he was married to for a few years and did not have any children with.

He was worth $96 million before the divorce. He had $48 million after the divorce & she had $48 million

 

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Andy789 wrote:

Where can I read more about financial settlement in the UK? I can only find very high level information and mostly related to long marriage. Our one is short and we don’t have children.

I’m not up on your situation but there are many ways to skin a cat.

Google ‘divorce forensic accountants’ and various combinations thereof.

I think you can also go through mediation to settle and they will give you financial paperwork which you can use as your research guide.

I’ve not been down this road for a while … so best thing is take the first baby steps and come back when you’re snagged or befuddled ….. which means often 😀

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

You should contact NCFM although they are an US organization they may have members in your country.

 

http://ncfm.org/

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Hi I have made this “super sticky” and visible in all forums for maximum visibility for a few days since you’re asking for immediate help.

Andy789 wrote:

I think men should organise themselves and collaborate to change the legal system. We don’t have power because we don’t act collectively and we don’t protect each other’s interest.

There’s something you can do to protect your own interests. You just have to be a little CREATIVE. I don’t know how far along your divorce is, but it’s a good bet she initiated it. In a whopping majority of cases, they do. But if you’re ahead of the curve still……

Make her cheat. Give her every reason to. Prepare for it. Get it on film (optional). Get a lawyer, give him the film and file for divorce based-on: “Gross infidelity” and file a civil suit AGAINST THE OTHER GUY for “Alienation of Affection”. A good lawyer, will easily win both cases for you.

You pay her NOTHING.
And HE will pay YOU.

Roll that case into a custody hearing etc….
And flatten your wife in legal fees.
You keep your children, wife gets NOTHING.

Then you get to raise your children as you see fit AND you get a nice settlement to spend on yourself. Hell, why not buy yourself a hot sports car……. and you can now look around for a younger, tighter, hotter more reasonable model to assist with your stress level.

Man wins.

•••••

That’s just one example. May not work for you. Crazy Canuck’s link is another very good suggestion. I f~~~ing hate lawyers. Even when YOU pay them, they are not in your best interests. That’s why men have to get f~~~ing seriously creative and find alternatives. If you can, flatten your wife in fees. Make it as miserable an experience for her as possible. You have to not care if she ends up totally homeless. Bankrupt her.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Make her cheat. Give her every reason to. Prepare for it. Get it on film (optional). Get a lawyer, give him the film and file for divorce based-on: “Gross infidelity” and file a civil suit AGAINST THE OTHER GUY for “Alienation of Affection”. A good lawyer, will easily win both cases for you.

 

Canadian here. Never heard of “Gross Infidelity,” but “Alienation of Affectation” does ring a bell; I think I vaguely remember hearing something about it in Law class in high school.

 

However, if memory serves, it was abolished: something about “dehumanizing women” and “suggesting that women don’t have agency,” since if women do have agency, then it’s their fault they cheated and not someone else’s.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Anonymous 25]

Hi Andy789.

You are correct. Most of the lawyers you meet will put the female first. You don’t say whether you have children, but the best way to find a non gender biased UK lawyer would be as follows.

There is already a UK charity that supports a child’s right to have a relationship with both parents. It’s called Families Need Fathers and you need to contact them. They are a charity and have local meetings. Google their website. They are very good. Best advice you will get and they are free.

Whereabouts in the UK are you?

If you go to a local FNF meeting hopefully there will be lawyers there and they are you best chance of not being gender biased. Even if you don’t have children, you have a better chance of finding a non-gender biased lawyer via them.

Select a male lawyer who is not a white knight.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Hey Andy.

I wish I had an answer. Can’t help as I’m in the states.

I can only wish you the best of luck and be sure to check in here for support/advice.

Be cool.

Fuck this planet.

[Anonymous 42]

@andy, personally, I hate feeding lawyers! Not feeding lawyers is one of MGTOWS pillars, AVOID THE LEGAL SYSTEM; DO NOT PARTICIPATE!

I know what you’re gonna say, “to little to late”; better late than never! Your seeking advice is a positive thing, weather or not you receive sound advice depends on who you’re asking, and asking male oriented men seems to be the right choice.

It’s up to you to “feel out” who you chose to represent you, don’t have a woman represent you, whatever you do!

Be cold, calculating, and shrewd, you have only one chance at this, don’t be a nice guy! Settle it as quick as possible, cut your losses, don’t get into a legal p~~~ing match with her and her attorneys, keep the legal costs as low as possible, explain it to her, the more you fight, the more the lawyers walk away with. I don’t envy any guy going through a divorce….

[Anonymous 11]

Anonymous wrote:

Most of the lawyers you meet will put the female first

Too many men are white knights so are most male lawyers. I’d find a lawyer who is not a white knight. How does one make a furtive white knight test for a lawyer?

I’m sure things are worse in the UK, but the States suck too. My friend’s brother has gotten divorced for the second time(IDIOT!). The first time he got lucky as his wife was fairly decent and did not go after him too hard. I hated his second wife upon first meeting her. Anyway, she retained a pit bull attorney who has managed to arrange it so that his acerage which was family property and given to him for next to nothing by his father is now her property plus he’s paying alimony and child support. He father is livid, but that’s the law as used against men.

Good luck, Brother.

[Andy789Participant 6]

Thanks for confirming that I’m an idiot. Yes, this will be my second divorce.

Luckily, we don’t have children together and our marriage was short (3 years +).

By the time we get to court most of my assets will be in cash and in a different country.

The big problem is that I have a flat I bought alone and paid always by myself. I don’t want to lose it after a short, childless marriage.

Looks like finding a lawyer is pointless, so I try to agree with her on a one-off payment that can help her to buy her own flat.

I don’t hate her, she is not better or worse than any other women out there. they are all the same. I just pay the price of my foolishness and I am ok with it. I swear never marry again no matter how good looking, love-imitating is the chick and keep working hard to recover my losses.

Injustice in this world is just too much.

Slavery was never abolished, today it is just a different form of slavery. All of us became slaves to the government (in some countries total tax is 70%) and privileged groups (women, “poor” people). I should be entitled to the fruit of my own labour, not somebody who didn’t earn it.

After my divorce, I will devote my life to fight for abolishing any form of discrimination (positive or negative) especially when the discrimination is supported by government power. Any contract should be between two parties in their own terms. Men are only powerless because we are fragmented.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Just 3 years? Well that’s not too bad. Not sure of the laws in the UK, but the US – even in the worst states – you pay 1/2 day of alimony for every one day you were married. So that’s 1.5 years. Don’t quote me exactly, but that increases at 5 years….. and at 10 years, you’re paying LIFETIME ALIMONY. A lot of wives will stay married to get to that point, then all she hears is cash-register noises.

If you had kids, it would be worse.

But please don’t mistaken this for “oh well, cheer up that’s ok”. I don’t mean to imply that for a second! If there’s one thing I can’t abide, it’s that attitude from divorced women who say s~~~ like ” well you know I could have taken him for more”. Everyone here knows the s~~~hole you’re in.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Looking for help to find an attorney that isnt tainted by feminism i would say go here and ask around.

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[Anonymous 11]

Andy789 wrote:

Thanks for confirming that I’m an idiot.

You’re not an idiot. You are now simply a wiser man. The school of hard knocks is the best teacher there is. An idiot would not be here seeking advice. I’ve been an idiot on more than one occasion myself. Not having a child would work to your benefit in the States.

My friend’s brother had a poor attorney, and she got the best. He had real property owned by him 15 years before they met awarded to her. He had two kids by her plus one of her spawns from another fling of hers. His first wife was actually nice. My friend’s brother is a pussy addicted idiot.

I just really hope you can minimize the damages. Until we take the red pill, we really are just leaves randomly blowing in the winds of female insanity and privilege.

[Anonymous 25]

Andy. The best way to protect your flat would be to have it held in the names of trustees. Then legally she can’t touch it. Ideally you do that before you get involved. Not sure if its too late now a divorce is imminent, but it may be worth speaking to a UK lawyer to see if it’s an option to transfer your flat and have it held on trust. You may want to try speaking to a property lawyer rather than just a family lawyer as they are likely to be more clued up on how to deal with the property and if there is any way to put it beyond her reach.

[AlphaParticipant 1]

I know someone who went through a bad divorce and he was found dead at home. He had committed suicide. When are men going to wake up? A long term relation will always get you into trouble!!!

Yes we need to organize ourselves and take action to make changes to the legal system. It’s about time men take back control. After all we are the stronger and smarter gender.

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