Divorce – Advice?

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

You guys know me, heard my story. So, this is where I’m at today.

Three weeks ago, I pressure her to sit down with me to fill out all the divorce papers. I’ve assembled 99% of the papers needed, minus her financely stuff. I have papers and records for each month we been apart and some records that go back 10 years.

Upon pressing her to sit down, she said no three times, saying we couldn’t do it ourselves without fighting. We have NO issues on the table. Child support, 401k, child care plan, property… All settled. Then, a couple days go by, and we are together in the afternoon to meet my daughters therapist, and near the end of the meeting she BOLTS out of there. Turns out, she was late for an appointment with her lawyer. When I asked why she had a lawyer she said it was to “protect” herself.

So, since then, she’s only contacted me to ask for money for the kids, or for me to handle kid issues when their not with me.

I’m going nuts thinking she’s trying to build a case against me so she can have the kids 90% of the time just so she can have more child support money.

On the website, http://www.realworlddivorce.com, it spells out what she’s doing pretty clearly. Creating “conflict” by saying “she doesn’t FEEL that we can communicate well”.

I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to pressure her and set her off and have her trump up some bull just to take away my kids, but I can’t last forever wondering what my future will look like.

Should I just file a contested divorce on the grounds that she won’t communicate with me, or is that exactly what she is hoping for so she can confirm there is “conflict”?

I just sold some guns, so I have just enough cash to pay the $215 for the papers. I figure if she is gonna take the kids, it’s gonna be bad enough I can’t keep the guns anyways.

Guys, I need some real deal advice on my next move.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[SlayherParticipant 2074]

I wish I could offer you some advice; however, I have never been married or divorced. I do want to wish you the best of luck and believe some of the other guys on here may be able to offer you some good advice.

Keep us posted. Stay strong.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

Contact your own counsel IMMEDIATELY!
Document everything.
Never be alone with her again.
If you have to speak to her on the phone do not raise your voice or act agitated or hostile for any reason. You could be being recorded and set up.
Consider getting your own PO Box.
Watch what you say around anyone that may have contact with her. This includes family.
Try to keep yourself together.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

I should add that I’ve changed how much support money I’m giving her. It’s not court ordered yet, so I can change it. I changed it to exactly the amount the online Massachusetts calculator says I should pay, based on what she has claimed to be her income. She doesn’t know yet, her new lesser amount will hit her checking account in two weeks.

Also, she has been so reluctant to move forward with getting her car insurance in her own name, I had to decide for her. I set everything up for her, all she had to do was call the insurance company and I took care of the rest. It would have cost her about $40 a month. So, I couldn’t wait for her to decide when she wanted to take some initiative on this, so I followed the process of giving a 21 day notice to both her and the insurance company to have both her and the car removed from my account.

She had until 10-3-16 to get it set, or her registration gets revoked.

Something tells me, she isn’t going to take care of it, and when she finds out, she’s gonna be p~~~ed.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

if she gets a lawyer, you should get a lawyer too. otherwise you will might get slaughtered by the divorce courts.

i wish you the best of luck.
as you know by now, marriage sucks

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

Mr. Spock wrote:

Contact your own counsel IMMEDIATELY!
Document everything.
Never be alone with her again.
If you have to speak to her on the phone do not raise your voice or act agitated or hostile for any reason. You could be being recorded and set up.
Consider getting your own PO Box.
Watch what you say around anyone that may have contact with her. This includes family.
Try to keep yourself together.

Do I need a lawyer? Would it even help?

You can’t get blood from a stone, so I can’t figure out why she’d even try to get a lawyer….

Also, I’m unclear as to the benefit the PO Box provides. Can you explain it to me?

I’m all ears.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[Anonymous 54]

Prepare for war sorry. Once they laweyr up they go into war mode. Get a laweyr. Dont communicate with her.

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

Anonymous wrote:

Prepare for war sorry. Once they laweyr up they go into war mode. Get a laweyr. Dont communicate with her.

This is intense.

It could be so easy!!!!

She gets support, half the 401k and we each have the kids 50/50.

What is there to fight about??

This will get out of hand if I get a lawyer. I have no need to “get” anything from her.

Honest to God, I’m getting pretty worried about this.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[FreedomParticipant 965]

Ok…wait and inform that the offer on the table will be reduced if she continues down that road.

I hate these bitch c~~~s……They all manipulate and lie through their teeth. And those f~~~ lawyers take them in and sooth them with a cup of tea and tell them everythings gonna work out just fine.

Try to explain that any money to the lawyers equals less money to the kids.

Good luck matey.

She cheated on me ..... my fault. I showed an interest in another woman......my fault.

[OldBillParticipant]

RegularJough wrote:

Do I need a lawyer? Would it even help?

Wait a minute… You’ve been to the divorce site I linked, you’ve read the information there, and you still don’t know why you need a lawyer?

Jesus H. Titty F~~~ing Christ.

She already has a lawyer, brother. She’s already arming for war. And you’re still blue pill enough to think you can play nice.

You can’t get blood from a stone…

Tell that to the men in jail because changes in employment meant they couldn’t pay their child support. Tell that to the 84 year old man who was told he can’t retire because he has to pay his ex-wife.

… so I can’t figure out why she’d even try to get a lawyer….

She’s getting a lawyer so she can hurt you, you f~~~ing idiot. This isn’t about money or child care. This isn’t even about the truth. This is about her wanting to f~~~ you over for whatever childish reason her little brain invented.

Also, I’m unclear as to the benefit the PO Box provides. Can you explain it to me?

A PO box means someone can’t use your mail to track down where you physically live. She needs to get at you to create the conflict she wants.

I’m all ears.

Try being all brains instead. Read that site again and keep reading it until you finally comprehend it. Re-read the Massachusetts section until you comprehend it too, especially the part where the lawyer states ““In 99 percent of cases the plaintiff’s lawyer is either lying or repeating lies.” and “Due to the high stakes involved and the relatively long time periods between filing and trial, divorces in Massachusetts are more costly in terms of damage to children and fees to litigants than in any other state surveyed.”

Get a lawyer now.
Stop all contact with her now.
Stop all payments to her now.
File for divorce now.

Start taking this divorce seriously NOW.

You’re already f~~~ed because you’re a man getting divorced in Massachusetts. All that remains to be seen is how far they’re going to ram it up your ass and how little lubrication they’ll use.

You’ve been given a link to all the knowledge you need. Use it.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 54]

RegularJough wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

Prepare for war sorry. Once they laweyr up they go into war mode. Get a laweyr. Dont communicate with her.

This is intense.

It could be so easy!!!!

She gets support, half the 401k and we each have the kids 50/50.

What is there to fight about??

This will get out of hand if I get a lawyer. I have no need to “get” anything from her.

Honest to God, I’m getting pretty worried about this.

She dont want it to be easy! She wants to bust your b~~~~!!women F~~~ING HATE MEN! Thats you Man.Im origanly from Beantown.The man hateing capital of the univers! You bet your ass its going to be intense. Once shes laywerd up, she doesnt call the shots. Her lawyer does. My third wife is from there. I know. Huncker down for a ruff ride. Sorry Brother

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

You are trying to be a decent person. You expect her to be a decent person.

But, she doesn’t give a s~~~ about you.
She doesn’t hate men or you. She just wants what she wants.
What does she want?
Answer: everything

You are wanting to dictate how this divorce should go based on rational logic of what is the best for you, her and the child. Epic fail.

How do I know? Really.

What should you do?
Get filed for a divorce as soon as possible.

Good luck

Peace brothers

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Get a lawyer – you are hearing into uncharted waters. And most of all – you are adversaries playing on an unequal field – one that is stacked very much against your side. Keep us posted.

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

I’m not convinced I need a lawyer.

Like I said, she can’t get anymore out of me than is legal, and I’ve agreed to it all already.

On top of that, I can’t afford a lawyer. I had to sell my guns to afford the filing fee for the divorce papers.

This really is cut and dry. I’m not trying to create a situation I can’t come back from.

Old Bill, don’t take this the wrong way, because I appreciate your advice, (iPhone won’t copy/paste correctly) but the part you quoted about the fees and damages that litigation causes to children and adults is something I’m trying to avoid.

Like your advice to stop payments to her, won’t that just bite me in the ass even harder later?

There has to be a simple way of going about this without setting off WW3.

I’m not rich, nor will I be soon, and she’s busy enough being a whore to actually want the kids 90% of the time… Not sure what the right answer is, but lighting a fuse doesn’t seem to be my best choice.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[Anonymous 42]

RegularJough wrote:

What is there to fight about??

100% of everything they can get the courts to drain from you’re account!

You’re like a penny on a rail not aware a train carrying 7000 tons of iron oar is coming up your ass!

I’ll prey for you!

P.S. Are you sure you’re from Massachusetts? I thought everyone here knew they were legally f~~~ed!

[RegularJoughParticipant 258]

One more thing to add.

I’ve read the http://www.realworlddivorce.com site for Massachusetts many times now.

It seems to me, the only way my divorce can go down peacefully, is with her cooperation. It doesn’t HAVE to be a blood bath, but even if I get a lawyer, it will still be bad for me.

Shit tested, Brother approved.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

RegularJough wrote:

Like I said, she can’t get anymore out of me than is legal, and I’ve agreed to it all already.

You are thinking like a man. “than is legal” is a term that you think is defined by what you think legal is.

Just because you think you don’t have anything doesn’t mean it’s true.

What you’ve already agreed to means nothing.

I’m not trying to be a Debbie downer. I get what your thinking. You have nothing. They can and will take much more than nothing. And, they can do it for years.

The reasoning behind what I’m saying is due to a child being involved.

Be careful and be quick.

Peace brothers

[OldBillParticipant]

RegularJough wrote:

I’m not convinced I need a lawyer.

Brothers, you’ve often read me post about how you can’t talk a man into taking the Red Pill anymore than you can talk a drunk off the bottle or a junkie off the needle.

Regular Jough is a perfect example of that.

Jough, you’re a blind fool. You’ve been told and you’ve been shown the horrors that await you, yet you still want to believe your wife means you no harm and will cooperate with you if you can only reason with her. That willful ignorance means you deserve to drown in the tsunami of s~~~ racing your way.

Get back to us in a six months or so after your ass heals from the raping it’s about to receive. There’s a chance you’ll understand then.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[HitmanParticipant]

Hmmmm…
how about,
GET A F~~~ING LAWYER NOW !!!
once SHE has one,
YOU need one .
.
credit card cash advance the retainer.
open another card and the jugle the debt.
.
welcome to MY world bro..
.
it’s called dealing with a f~~~ing C~~~ who wants to HURT YOU !
.
this is NOT about getting divorced for HER…
it’s about F~~~ING YOU OVER !
.
keep paying and documenting the payments.
get a goddamn lawyer and see this for what it is..
she is starting a process you can NOT go through without a f~~~ing LAWYER
.
you have to listen to this.
or you will regret it man.

[Anonymous 43]

get the lawyer. get the lawyer or put the bullet through your head. Immediately. Yesterday was too late, she filed first she is the plaintiff, you are the defendant…the criminal. Every time you go to court, you are referred to as the defendant…the criminal. its really too late, ya shoulda visited every lawyer in the county. Then they could not represent her, conflict of interest.

oh well

kiss all yer s~~~ good bye, do not bother fighting, sign it all over immediately. Kids, house cars everything, walk away with nothing. let her figure out what to do with yer s~~~. Move far away and put yer payments on auto pay.

the fighting ends then. sort of. Let her figure out what to do with all yer s~~~. Do not ever go near her again ever. All your stuff has been p~~~ed on, soaked in hydro sulfuric acid and boiled in motor oil. Then put through an industrial shredder.

She and any kids are lost to you. Kids will be turned against you eventually.

Nod your head and tell me you understand. You are f~~~ed. Yes May, I am f~~~ed. But I will come out of this a better man. Repeat it every day, I am f~~~ed, but I will come out of this a better man.

You sold yer guns? good job. You can never own a fire arm again…that will be written into the court order.

What else…

Go find some of my posts, read them carefully. I have been put through the wringer to a very high degree for little gain on her part. Some of these guys read my story and are amazed I am alive. It sounds like you are walking down the same road as me, but a couple miles back.

One day you will find yourself at peace, and realize that this was all for the better, cutting everything loose was the best thing you could have done, and your future is bright. As long as you still draw breath, you can rebuild and surpass what you lost.

Hang in there buddy

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