Disney’s lead males… why are they all imbeciles?

[SeamusTheDogParticipant 78]

Or at best, marginally-capable?

It seems like, at least since the Little Mermaid, Disney’s animated male leads have been portrayed as imbecilic or mentally-underpowered. There are earlier examples of this, but it seems that the Little Mermaid was the cutoff point for truly intelligent male leads in their feature films. Oh, we get intelligent male villains, but no intelligent male protagonists.

I’m excluding “The Nightmare Before Christmas” because the story was written by Tim Burton LONG before Touchstone (subsidiary of Disney) picked it up.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame is also exceptional because, though Quasimodo is portrayed as fairly intelligent, he is in all other ways pitiable. (except in his utility to save the damsel).

In every other case that I’m aware of, the male protags in Disney animated films (child programming media) are at best, goofy, and at worst, idiots. The females are universally portrayed as paragons of virtue and intelligence.

Discuss (or don’t. There’s not really much more to say, is there?)

"All your children are poor, unfortunate victims of systems beyond their control... A plague upon your ignorance to the great despair of your ugly life!" -Frank Zappa

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

pretty much all TV shows, commercials, etc………

its sad that the only role model young boys have is white knight characters……I guess this is done on purpose

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

what do you expect when most men working there are manginas? 🙂

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

There is one major exception. The Gargoyles series had some fantastic male and female leads. Both protagonists and antagonists.

One of the main antagonists was David Xanatos. And he is the man Lex Luthor and Tony Stark wished they were. They don’t call the trope “Xanatos gambit” for nothing.

SeamusTheDog wrote:

The females are universally portrayed as paragons of virtue and intelligence.

The Gargoyles series had some female characters that were anything but virtuous.

[SeamusTheDogParticipant 78]

I haven’t seen the gargoyles series. I only vaguely heard of it. In any case, I was addressing their features. One good deed doesn’t undo their multitude of misdeeds, however.

"All your children are poor, unfortunate victims of systems beyond their control... A plague upon your ignorance to the great despair of your ugly life!" -Frank Zappa

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

SeamusTheDog wrote:

I haven’t seen the gargoyles series. I only vaguely heard of it. In any case, I was addressing their features. One good deed doesn’t undo their multitude of misdeeds, however.

Well, I don’t think of Jack Sparrow is a imbecile either. Yes, he plays the fool, but only to play everyone else for fools.

[HitmanParticipant]

men have become sport for the feminized masses to ridicule …that’s why i’ve unplugged from pop culture in general..disney makes plenty of money, but none of mine .

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

Their market is primarily women who hate and despise men. Their products are made for that market, and largely suit that market. What men still exist – damned few – don’t watch this s~~~ or buy the merchandise. Unfortunately, lots and lots of manginas and SJWs and social marxists do.

Christianity has largely failed, in the same way that the race of the West had failed in LOTR. Pastors and priests who call Disney on this s~~~ either don’t exist, or can’t find congregations. There’s not a lot opposing them right now. What Jews do still exist give not one f~~~ what the outside nations do to destroy themselves – they’ve seen it all before. The Mohammedans bitch about everything and f~~~ up everything they touch, so no one particularly listens to them even when they’re right.

This will continue until The Ball Goes Up, at which point it will stop, abruptly.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[MaxParticipant 887]

sometimes, disney’s can make right!

I became a MGTOW because this was the only logical solution for a man survive in a world replete of gynocentrism and biased against men!

[SkeptiskParticipant 3679]

Well, at least Disney makes it easy to save money.

"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Even though women took Frozen to be a huge girl power movie, I see it a little differently.

Elsa a powerful but isolated young woman loses her s~~~ and freezes the entire kingdom because she can’t control her emotions, which are linked to her powers.

Anna, who is trying to catch up to her sister would be eaten by wolves within the first ten minutes of the movie if she wasn’t saved by Kristoff.

Kristoff, by all initial appearances, is almost a monk MGTOW. He lives alone with a reindeer, perfectly happy to be an independent ice harvesting contractor, until the “heroine” of the story freezes him out of his chosen enterprise.

He does more than should be expected. Saving Anna from wolves, losing his prized sled in the process. He helps Anna get to her sister and even seeks care for Anna after once again her sister can’t control herself and jabs an ice dagger into her heart.

He takes her to his family, the only people that he figures might know of a cure. Amazingly, over ten years earlier the same two girls were there for a similar reason. Explaining the white streak in Anna’s hair.

The whole movie mocks women’s incompetence at keeping themselves safe and controlling their emotions. Women loved the s~~~, they absolutely ate it up. Without Kristoff the countryside stays frozen, Elsa dies alone of old age many years later never knowing her temper tantrum and running away killed her sister.

Sure he falls in love with her by the end of the movie, but that’s just to follow the happily ever after theme that has to exist in all of their films.

I hope that you see at least that movie the way that I do. He’s a Disney man that despite being a little oafish, I wouldn’t call him stupid. He was doing fine before either of those chicks showed up.

You even pointed out the Little Mermaid. Girl makes bad contract, both her dad and the guy she thinks she loves without having met him are run through a wringer to make things right for her. She’s so deluded that she falls in love with a totally different species. Look for the thread in the last couple of weeks about the girl who says that chicks should totally start having sex with their dogs.

Mulan, a girl does her best to keep her dad safe but bungles everything and then dishonors her family more by being outted as a woman. Only through the mercy of her male commander, a man who she is secretly aroused by, is she spared. Through a c~~~amamie plan that requires cross dressing are the few remaining soldiers able to save the Emperor, who again has to pardon her. Two strong, bright men are the only thing other than a dragon and a cricket that keep her from death on multiple occasions.

Disney shows women as fickle and emotional creatures that are consistently saved by men, regardless of their intellect. I guess it’s a matter of perspective.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Ogre, irony abounds in that film.

I found irony in the scene of Elsa creating the ice scene, was the song she was singing, Let It Go. The lyrics are basically about how society suffocates a person to the point they say, screw this, I am out of here. I am going my own way.

Unlike other songs, it was not about revenge, but going away and doing the person doing their own thing.

By the way, that song, Let It Go, convinced the writers and producers of the film to turn Else from the villain into one of the protagonists.

And that song is a great song to listen to.

Yes. I saw Frozen. I was interested in the film when I heard about the insane levels of effort it took to make the movie. And the animation of that creation of the ice castle scene was impressive.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Max wrote:

sometimes, disney’s can make right!

This is one of my all time favorites! That said, Disney Corp. has been totally feminist since the pre-World War Two days when good ol’ Uncle Walt was in charge. This is nothing new. It is only a more extreme example of their marketing plan since forever. They know who their customers are: Mommies with young kids, that’s who. To them, they sell; from them they reap billions of bucks.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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