Danish-dude (a.k.a. Andy; this anonymity thing sucks—I’m used to my name and isn’t hiding cowardice? I must be eff’en stupid [yup]; cat and mouse with a machine? I think the machines will give us a run for our money!):
I join with the fellas here to welcome you to the best place to be: maledom. I have three sisters. I’m the youngest of eight and now? do I have to be 60? I want my money back! Great Lakes raised—USA, former federal chemist, now Bohemian intellectual minimalist. Haven’t sired a child yet but had a step-daughter for four years (tragically died two years ago). Do the math.
I read your intro once yesterday. Slept on it. Now it’s in me. Man! I’m glad others responded because it’s worthy and time precious. I will add to the record here that I feel now pressure’s off me because 1) I’m loyal like a dog, 2) this website is the only place to be, 3) membership here may seem “free” but time is money, 4) precious time with new members is the price I gotta pay to be here because I’m loyal to the golden rule—I guess. That’s worthy to disclaim right off for myself anyway. I’ve done it here once and once is enough.
Your tags:
Dating, Denmark, depression, suicidal, ugly
King Hamlet. Bet he didn’t have any trouble getting laid. Ugly? Any candidate for the conventionally presumed “beautiful” female can choose to be immensely ugly in how she treats the people in her life. This is also true for us males. So what’s ugly? I feel a male needs to “get laid” every few years or depression can lead to suicide—it’s only natural. The feminist gynocracy wants total control over access to pussy and guys killing themselves for being denied pussy I bet is their secret delight they dare NEVER admit.
The Gynocracy is actively attempting to shut down FREE PORN because it hates the HUGELY leveling effect of masturbation. Dr. Elders was asked to resign from Surgeon General for recommending masturbation. Watch “Sticky: A (Self) Love Story“.
Some non-gynocratic females are called “porn stars” because any open public discussions of our base animal sex urges is so painfully awkward that some repulsive force must be employed at all costs to avoid it and sense-of-shame—also a very strong base animal response in our organism—probably because of our safety-in-numbers species disability?—and of course everyone has agreed on the convention that pornography is shameful—and oddly ubiquitous—is exceedingly convenient for ostracizing any female who goes against The Gynocracy and it’s sacred authority over “the pussy”—The Golden Vagina—Empress Goddess Bufu of the Cosmos? Vicarious access to the natural bliss of sexual orgasm in all its natural glory without the pussy is anathema to The Gynocracy (i.e. the biggest power grab in our species world line so far).
A guy kills himself because he couldn’t get laid? Not even self-laid? Even at its worst, life is precious because this cosmos is awesome beyond imagine. To survive even a second of it is worth it. The females are stuck with two XX chromosomes. The females HATE the natural barrier to the Y chromosome. (Human reproduction is irrelevant to the emerging machine life.) So natural male dominance is the fault of the males? We decided our sole possession of the Y? So now we’re to be punished by a Gynocracy?
Shame? Well, shame on the gynocrats. They’re fighting the wrong war. Laws against commercial sex work will be repealed eventually getting the sex prices in proper range. And the fog of gynocratic double-standards will be clearing. Males jack off to free porn because snobby bitches choose vindictive cruelty leaving most available single males unlaid and how else to resolve that male sexual dilemma?
I like to think of myself as open-minded and I may change my opinion in the future but this post is a reflection of how I have felt the last two years and I really needed to get it out there because more than anything I WANT TO MOVE ON WITH MY LIFE. I WANT TO GO MY OWN WAY.
– Andy
Nice disclaimer. I’ll use it too. I feel this site is loaded with open minds. I moved on with my life 45 years ago—the age of my sex life. Does sharing out our experiences in this public record help you to “move on with your life”?
I thought I would share my story since I can’t really discuss my experiences anywhere due to the political correctness and misandry going on in Denmark were I live.
Misandry
I’m glad you’ve spotlighted misandry.
. . . if you’re ugly you practically have to be a high status millionaire or similar to compensate . . .
Precisely. Money is the ultimate control. People will do anything for it—males and females of Homo sapiens. Survival of our species is the most powerful force. So reproduction becomes the highest stakes game. But measured in the currency of sexual orgasmic bliss?
Women in DK judge men very harshly – even publicly – it’s not uncommon in public transport situations to have a group of girls who sit and point at guys and laugh at how ugly they are – everybody else let’s them get away with it – it’s shocking to see how little people care but I guess it’s just a normal bystander effect and blue pill ignorance.
Of course, girls are very confident and outspoken here – even the really ugly ones – because they have way better reproductive odds and have beta males all over them all the time.
How irresponsibly cruel! Social experiment: said “ugly” guy goes to such a gathering of cackling bitches but with a high-priced gorgeous whore who makes all those so-called “beautiful” girls look “ugly” and where said “ugly” guy gets a public blowjob for them to observe as he openly berates their incompetency in the art? Make sure to have attorney fees, bail money, and the publicist’s pay (media management for the ruse) in escrow.
I’ve seen butt ugly girls saying that they only want to date guys like “heath ledger” [necrophilia] – so basically women are no longer dating guys in the same league (looks wise) as themselves instead they all believe that they are entitled to the 20% hottest guys because now they’re liberated and don’t need a provider so might as well only go for the hot guy right? Well, sure that just means that birth rates are gonna fall and you may end up having to visit the sperm bank or stay single a lot longer (I’m aware you can view this differently, feel free to share your point of view).
This is why decriminalization of sex work needs to happen.
The average woman is getting laid much more than the average guy in a lifetime perspective.
That is no trophy. The Gynocrats want males to believe that “getting laid” is some great thing. It’s not. Notice how much they HATE a male they’re f~~~ing who also wants to jerk to porn. (See the movie “Don Jon”.)
I have to agree with Black Pigeon Speaks that this promiscuous feminism is having some serious negative impact on our society. In conjunction with the self-destructive immigration policy we’re destroying the social cohesion in our European societies . . .
Euro only? I think in many societies around the world. Immigration is a whole other subject but human reproduction is immensely complicated and population shifts are part of personal struggles for sexual intimacy.
Is presumed “promiscuous feminism” a modern backlash after centuries of males getting away crimes against females?
I don’t think it’s fair that women are given equal rights when considering the fact that they have a higher reproduction value. Plus if you’re a real feminist and you believe that there is zero difference between the sexes and that they should be treated 100% equally – why do women freak out when a guy “s~~~-test” her back?
Girls will s~~~-test guys with really harsh and cruel remarks (because guys have no emotions right so you can just treat them like a piece of s~~~?). If I ever s~~~-tested a girl the same way I’ve been s~~~-tested I bet she would start crying – tbh I once tried this when I was out in the nightlife and one did start to cry while the others were shaming me (I was only saying stuff that they were telling me???? WHAT THE F~~~??? Oh, you didn’t think your words could hurt me too because I’m a man? LOL.
Wow! Nice social experiment—well done! Brave soul. Evidence of the gynocratic double-standard? The backlash?
. . . nine months of rejection lead me to take a boot camp with a PUA company. This got me a wave of results in the months following. However, I still felt that there was an underlying disrespect and lack of empathy with me as male. Women would flake, s~~~-test endlessly, talk about how desperate guys were and how they just f~~~ed a new hot guy last weekend. Women would also s~~~-test very subtly and ridicule me and other guys for not getting laid. Wow – I thought – women are not as nice and empathetic [“empathic” means something else] as I was brought up to believe.
Wow! Again, another hugely valuable experience with lessons learned. Thanks, Andy. How is a female openly bragging about how freely she has access to sex with any male she wants in front of males who are getting sexually rejected for casual sex anything other than verbal rape? We all know the very severe punishment for rape.
This MGTOW term “s~~~ test” is a puzzle to me. Capitalist free-market economic viability of the human individual is all about non-stop “s~~~ tests” conventionally after age 18. But I think I get the MGTOW analysis of the state of modern human reproduction. Aside from getting laid, personal accumulation of material wealth in life evidently is the end-all be-all of our lives in the cosmos. Or is it?
“The road to ruin is broad and well-traveled.”—Jesus of Nazareth
At this point I was trying to change everything for the sake of women’s approval – I did many social skills courses, changed clothing, read 24 books on dating and tried them all out in the field one by one, improved my social circle, created an interesting lifestyle – I also did a bunch of other boot camps and met some of the best PUAs worldwide – all in all I’ve spent near 8,000 USD during my 2 years of gaming and trying to become more attractive to women and that project failed (but I’ve learned a hell of a lot in the process despite not reaching my main goal of finding a girlfriend).
Man! The most beautiful whores presently cost $2,000 per full-on weekend sex romp. In your experience, for that two year span, aside from the valuable education, that could have been two immensely memorable sex experiences per year. No “girlfriend” is interested in learning the higher sex arts. They don’t even suck. Commercial sex would get the prices to a tenth. Buy the gynocracy doesn’t want those prices coming down. Gigolos make ten times what whores do and the femi-Nazis hate that too! Either way, sex work is illegal at present except for New Zealand way down under. But private jacking off to free internet porn I believe cannot result in arrest, conviction, jail time, and a ruined life—yet?
Aside from the blessed and sacred sexual orgasmic bliss, real authentic friendship is revealed at this very instant in a voluntary investment of precious time to share with a total stranger a common hurt imposed by a cruel social trend hosted by some very kind males who are calling out this arbitrary and worthless war while also sharing much positive amelioration of these rude emotional and life injuries. Over getting laid?
Two years have passed and I have seen some results here and there but honestly the effort-to-reward ratio is so bad that I’ve now decided to give up entirely on danish women. I’m done. I will chase women no more. I will no longer make my decisions around women. It’s time to find a new purpose. Time to move on. I accept that I’m not the type of guy that Danish women wants and I’m withdrawing from this domain of life to give more space to others.
Good for you! Don’t forget the accumulation of as much wealth as you can possibly acquire for yourself. Because evidently that is the supreme reason for being alive?
During these two years of experimenting I’ve also felt more lost, indecisive and out of balance with my masculinity than ever before. I’ve also been depressed and suicidal many times because of how women have treated me even when I’ve put in my best effort. I earn more than the average women in my demographic and my GPA is in the top 5% of the country but I’m still not good enough for women here. I’ve cried, I’ve been contemplating suicide so often… Women are not worth all of this pain and despair!
How brave to admit. It’s natural for the lack of time-on-body and the absence of sexual intimacy to be excruciatingly painful because our human organism is fighting to survive and cares not for our personal experience. I’ve cried too out of despair. It’s only natural. And then the stupidity is flushed out and I laugh—then check what’s new on Pornhub.
It’s a very sad situation because these issues could never be discussed publicly in Denmark because a male like me would be ridiculed and ignored. Feminists and other opponents would also individualize every word I’ve said claiming that it’s me who is the problem – and only me.
Okay. Hold the phone. This is a valuable data point. This public discussion would expose many societal ills that have been named “moral virtue”. Hypocrisy is lying. The male way I believe is to bravely face down the truth. The sense I’m getting on this website is truth-seeking.
“Feminists and other opponents [re: manginas] would also individualize every word I’ve said claiming that it’s me who is the problem – and only me.”
No. They are wrong. MGTOW is processing. Stay tuned, and welcome aboard.
I never had a girlfriend but if the single life is anything remotely similar to relation-”s~~~” lol well I guess it’s ruled out – at least with Danish women.
I have too much self-respect to continue to date women here. There may be red pill women out there but the promiscuous feminists who f~~~ hot guys and treat the rest like s~~~ are making it difficult for me to give the few, sincere women a fair shot.
You are young with a life ahead of you. But your “few sincere women” supports the possibility of the existence of the mythical . . . NAWALT and other colorful Matrix-ic acronyms. If a NAWALT exists and you want her and she wants you and you want all that trouble (to sire a child or more?), first thing I might do is spend hours and days reading through all the experiences posted here on MGTOW.com.
Btw, I think it’s absolutely hilarious to see how much women care about appearance when most ugly guys are in a far worse position than an ugly woman will ever be. Ugly women get laid. Ugly guys don’t unless they are extraordinary socially/economically etc. I’m also at a point were it’s starting to get absurdly funny when women talk about boyfriend issues or not having enough good candidates… WTF? Are you kidding me??? Don’t you see how privileged you are???
No. They cannot. The Pussy Privilege prevents the proper formation of the cerebral cortex, evidently, or why else is all this stupidity going down? And your detached disposition affords a healing enjoyment of the absurdity of it all. Another thing about males that females evidently hate.
Of course, it can be hard to choose a good man but imagine having zero candidates and almost no one showing you any interest? Women don’t get how lucky they are. At the end of the day relationships can mean a lot to most human beings and I would have taken a woman’s salary anytime in exchange for a relationship (all though I know it’s not as simple as that just trying to make a general point here and women do have better reproductive odds so that’s not an entirely incorrect generalization).
Lucky? Maybe you’re lucky to be learning lessons of self-respect in the process of your sex life and whether you want to sire a child or more?
I hope my viewpoints fit within the MGTOW realm – most of my perspectives are inspired by personal reflection after watching “The Red Pill” and following Black Pigeon Speaks and related channels.
Btw, when I talk about ugliness I think it’s largely an objective thing and I accept that I’m ugly – My only hope was that women of equal ugliness would date a guy like me but they’re to self-deluded to do so it seems.
I’m also done participating in social circles were women exploit men and insult them. S~~~-testing without any serious intention of giving you a fair shot. I understand that some women are not like this and I’m still socially interacting with them but I set boundaries much more frequently now.
Good for you, Andy. Thank you for sharing your experience. This MGTOW forum is lately one of the most fascinating things in my experience. I hope the fellas here welcome you well and warmly so—and me too!
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