Define "Women"

[TeddyParticipant 70]

Since joining MGTOW, ive seen a lot of men state that women only care about nice cars, wealthy men, money, ect. In my opinion, I believe women only care about dick. For example, my ex girl is dating a 28 year old spanish guy who has epilepsy. He works for UPS part-time, he cant drive cars( she drives him to work with a 2015 car her father gave her), and he lives with his parents. Before she called me one day asking for money, she said she wants to have his baby and she will marry him. Keep in mind she is 21 years young. she tried to hurt me by saying his dick is bigger, blah blah blah. Obviously, her life is going to be f~~~ed up. This guy cannot even work, let alone, take care of a baby and wife. But, what’s really bothering me is why in hell would a woman want to be with a man who has little to no money, lives with his parents, have his baby, and marry him?

Is it because she is a girl and not a woman? How do you define a woman?
are all women in their 20s think like her??
What do women really care about?

[ChilledToZeroParticipant 178]

I’ll bet you it’s because she wants the Alpha experience, women aren’t very good at reading the small print though and as you said this is not going to end well

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

Where all the good man gone?

[WolfParticipant 890]

I think what women really care about is commitment, which encompasses everything you are as a man.

You can be filthy rich and the coolest dude on the block, but you’re not much good to a woman if you don’t commit and concede to her. If you don’t do this, she can’t control you and get what she’s wants out of you.

You hear women say all the time, “where are all the good men”? Well, what the hell is a good man? Is he a successful alpha? Yes, but she will have no interest in him if he doesn’t concede to her, so there is more to what a woman wants, and it’s putting her first – committing to her happiness and sacrificing all that you are in order to achieve that. This is what they want.

Some chicks, particularly younger chicks, may ride the c~~~ carousel and date a guy because he looks good and/or has a big dick, but it’s transient. Long term, chicks want what I stated above.

I think your ex is trying to mind f~~~ and manipulate you, and a lot of what she tells you is not true. You’re best to stop talking with her.

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

I think what women really care about is commitment,submissiveness that make her look like a queen bee and the man are his loyal worker who will do anything she said including killing himself.

And ‘Where all the good man gone?’ i stated above is, sarcasm.

[TeddyParticipant 70]

I blocked her after she started asking me for money. And about the commitment, when we first dated, i would to marry her, blah blah, but once the relationship hit the 2 year mark, I decided it was best for me to get a vasectomy and focus on my accounting degree and money. It really puzzles me that a woman would drop out of school just to be with a guy who smokes weed and has no future.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

How can we define women when most of us have never met one. When it comes to technically older females, most of us have only known spoiled, emotionally immature, impatient girls in the bodies of women.

[Klaus WindamierParticipant 543]

Teddy wrote:

I blocked her after she started asking me for money. And about the commitment, when we first dated, i would to marry her, blah blah, but once the relationship hit the 2 year mark, I decided it was best for me to get a vasectomy and focus on my accounting degree and money. It really puzzles me that a woman would drop out of school just to be with a guy who smokes weed and has no future.

Still wonder why woman should not allowed to vote?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Teddy wrote:

What do women really care about?

Who cares.

I mean, it sounds like a simple & dismissive answer, but it’s really true. Who cares! Are you gonna worry about being good enough for (and measuring up to) HER? The only the question that matters is….. is she good enough for you. And if the answer is no, you get her out, or get yourself out.

If you’re trying to get into her head and wondering “what is she looking for”, and “what does she want”….. you’re doing it wrong. It means you think it’s your JOB to give a woman whatever that is , and to be that guy.

It’s not your responsibility to be the man she wants – whatever that is.
It’s your responsibility to be the man you always wanted to BE.

Don’t concern yourself with “defining woman”. That’s what women do when they try to “define a man”.

Define yourSELF.

“Defining women” is HER job.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Teddy wrote:

…I decided it was best for me to get a vasectomy and focus on my accounting degree and money.

That clears up a lot of things. If you got a vasectomy, then that throws a big horseshoe into her plans. With you being snipped, she can’t get pregnant with your kid and pull the “hard working stay-at-home-mom” card, which ultimately forces you to sacrifice further.

I used the term commitment earlier because that’s the term chicks use. As I stated in my previous post, it means to concede and sacrifice all that you are for her. You got snipped, so you can’t give her what she wants, and you are not a good man. You can not commit to giving her a baby and providing for her for life.

Women do crazy s~~~ after a breakup or argument. It wouldn’t surprise if she’s doing those irrational things in order to get back at you in some nonsensical way.

[TeddyParticipant 70]

The reason why ive been single is because I ask myself, ” Other than sex, what can she offer”?

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22521]

Wolf wrote:

That clears up a lot of things. If you got a vasectomy, then that throws a big horseshoe into her plans. With you being snipped, she can’t get pregnant with your kid and pull the “hard working stay-at-home-mom” card, which ultimately forces you to sacrifice further.

Not really. She could always cheat behind your back and get pregnant.

Vasectomies are like condoms. They are not a hundred percent. And court don’t care if you are the biological father, as long as some man, or even a boy, is made to pay for the little bastard (classical meaning of the word that fits both genders).

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Teddy wrote:

The reason why ive been single is because I ask myself, ” Other than sex, what can she offer”?

You just figured it out. If it wasn’t for sex, would we be hanging out with them? Think about the way they treat each other.

Their gall never ceases to amaze me. She’s f~~~ing a loser who lives at home and asks you for money? Let Don Juan take care of that.

Let this t~~~ self destruct.

Fuck this planet.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

I agree with Wolf on this. You got snipped which severely undermines her ability to control you as well as cash in on the entitlement goodies that women get either from the government or at the man’s expense. Either way, she would have choices if she were to get pregnant and severely limit your choices in the process.
As far as her comment about your size, she’s screwing with your mind. Typical shaming from a typical c~~~. She wants the juice to get pregnant from him and I’m sure that since he’s an epileptic, he may even be on some kind of assistance himself. To her, this man has more potential resources to tap into which fits into her scheme.
You sound like you have your act together and are doing things right. She doesn’t see that though because the princess wants her pedestal and your resources NOW and you being responsible and going to school is interfering with HER life plan. Women don’t look very far ahead. They live in the moment which is why most of them are so f***ed up. Stay your course and ignore her. Good Luck brother.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Faust For Science wrote:

Not really. She could always cheat behind your back and get pregnant.

That’s when you break up with her – before the baby is born. If she insists it’s yours, then a paternity test is in order.

Faust For Science wrote:

And court don’t care if you are the biological father, as long as some man, or even a boy, is made to pay for the little bastard (classical meaning of the word that fits both genders).

Not sure what the laws are in your neck of the woods, but it’s not that cut and dry in Canada. There are some conditions in order to carry child support obligations:

1. You are the biological father; or
2. You acted in place of a parent for the child; or
3. In BC, you are in a common law relationship or married to the mom, and the child has lived with you for more than one year.

If none of these three apply, you won’t have child support obligations.

P.S: if you adopt or become a legal guardian, then that would place child support obligations on you, so there are four criteria.

[BDParticipant 1146]

Keymaster wrote:

It’s not your responsibility to be the man she wants – whatever that is.
It’s your responsibility to be the man you always wanted to BE.

This is gold, you will get much more satisfaction out of life when you honor the person who loves you the most, yourself.

Never compromise who you are for the sake of someone else, in the end you will only end up resenting yourself and the person you changed for.

Changing men is a business for women, it’s their hobby, look at all the Cosmopolitan articles “How to get your man to do this, how to get him to do that”. Then when she talks to her friends. they complain and constantly discuss how to manipulate and change you.

Be you own man, if anyone, male or female does not like who you are, there’s the door, OUT!

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[TeddyParticipant 70]

I have seen so many women my age (early 20s) be in horrific situations. I used to feel sorry for women whom have multiple babies with different dads. Now, women like that turns my stomach. They pride themselves on being independent, but have assistance. When I was a nerd in high school, they picked on me. But, since I have developed into a young black man, they want me to be with them. I am starting to think that all women do stupid things while young, and then try to change their lifestyle when it’s too late. Some of my exs still try to contact me after they f~~~ed up their life. I know I am not the only guy to experience that.

[TeddyParticipant 70]

BD wrote:

Keymaster wrote:

It’s not your responsibility to be the man she wants – whatever that is.
It’s your responsibility to be the man you always wanted to BE.

This is gold, you will get much more satisfaction out of life when you honor the person who loves you the most, yourself.

Never compromise who you are for the sake of someone else, in the end you will only end up resenting yourself and the person you changed for.

Changing men is a business for women, it’s their hobby, look at all the Cosmopolitan articles “How to get your man to do this, how to get him to do that”. Then when she talks to her friends. they complain and constantly discuss how to manipulate and change you.

Be you own man, if anyone, male or female does not like who you are, there’s the door, OUT!

You guys just convinced me that breaking up with her was the best thing ive done in my life. I left her to become a better person.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Teddy wrote:

Some of my exs still try to contact me after they f~~~ed up their life. I know I am not the only guy to experience that.

It’s an epidemic, my friend.

Last year, a single Mom who I knew since the 8th grade had designs on me. Same year, a girl who I knew since she was 15 wanted to fly for a visit. Now she’33 and her eggs are drying up, and I get this email out of the f~~~ing blue.

•••••••

In all the time she’s known me, she never said anything that comes close to that. Not even Happy birthday. “I love you?” This is the first email from her in a YEAR……. and I hadn’t seen her since 2008. She wasn’t even an EX!

NOTE: She didn’t even address me by name.

And there you go. Doesn’t matter who the f~~~ you are…. as long as you’re a wallet.

So. No. You'[re not the only one. Not by a long shot.

Teddy wrote:

You guys just convinced me that breaking up with her was the best thing ive done in my life. I left her to become a better person.

It didn’t take convincing. It was already as plain as the nose on your face. Have a spectacular weekend.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 3]

Well, on some level it’s that women fundamentally understand class structure.

For nearly all of human history, and actually even now if you look hard enough, only slaves and the poor worked. So I guess if a guy isn’t working, he’s a noble/aristocrat/master.

I used to think women wanted money too, took me the longest time to finally understand they don’t give a f~~~. They don’t care about the 6’2 “alpha” male either.

Women are just random as all hell, but for the most part they seem by far the most attracted to average or below average men. It’s ironic that men think there is this huge hurdle to get to, that they need to “improve themselves” to get female attention when it’s actually the very opposite. The worse put together a man is the more attractive he is.

So don’t be a clean cut guy with a good work ethic who studies and then works, manages money responsibly, never gets in trouble with the law etc.

If you want to drown in pussy, live in your mother’s basement, don’t work, do drugs, don’t shave, don’t shower routinely. Even more ironic is women claim they hate this, claim it’s virgin neckbeard stuff, but they practically break these guy’s doors down to jump on top of them. Meanwhile MGTOW are pretty much all well put together, high intelligence high achieving guys, and they turn around and the insult they come up with is “virgin neckbeard.”

Oh, also, it’s obvious most MGTOW watch our health and work out and stay fit. Don’t do that either.

Be like Fat Horney. That’s the guy women are after, as Fat Horney himself insists while calling the rest of us “virgin neckbeards.”

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