Deeply worried for my son's well being

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Billy&The Cloneasaurus wrote:

Yeah man. It’s amazing how heartless they turn…once the bf/husband label is removed in their minds, suddenly you are absolutely nothing to them. Doesn’t matter how much you’ve done for her, how many years you were together, etc. This was the hardest red-pill for me to take.

She was a massive waste of time.

[MarriedNotBuriedParticipant 136]

Tell your son that he can go to his mother and demand to be sent to live with his father. He can warn her, that if she doesn’t comply he will make her life a living hell. He will do that by taking a crap in her bed or other belongings every damn day until she concedes. If she hits him, he can call the police and file charges against her. He is a still a minor, so he can break her with the arm of the state just as women do to men.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Yeah. They

all

are. What p~~~es me off is I can’t just leave her in the rear view mirror cause she trapped me with kids.

Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE my kids. But I’d at least have liked to be part of the decision. I don’t want to interact with her at all. Unfortunately, I’m forced to.

She’s the most ice-cold person I’ve ever met. Totally devoid of any heart or soul.

One thing is for sure…this MAN is no longer available laydeez. Enjoy your cats

The answer, is no.

[Billy&The CloneasaurusParticipant]

Sorry guys…I was trying to underline “all” in the ^^^^ above post. Still learning the forum…

The answer, is no.

[Anonymous 43]

Fighting for my kids cost me a huge pile of cash, the court f~~~ed me over no matter what I did, said, evidence produced, Judge F~~~wit ruled against me every f~~~ing time, and I usually lost something

I lost Wednesday night after school when I had college classes, I lost summers when the kids had band camp, I lost Christmas because the c~~~ had to take her vacation before the end of the year and she already bought the f~~~ing cruise tickets, I lost another Christmas because she had to attend a wedding and the kids were in England already when it was time to transfer, and I lost weekends with my older daughter…she would rather do homework/test prep/music show prep/hang with her friends, and I lost all my weekends when I moved 800 miles away. Ultimately the kids told me to f~~~ off, slamming me with a built in no contact deal. Any contact is harassment and I will be put away in a small cell for a minimum of 180 days. F~~~ me.

I hope things go better for you DYD. I think you sound better since you left that s~~~hole you had been in. This thing with your son on the other side of the Earth would test any man. I think my deal sucks, then I read this and I think there by the grace of God go I.

I hurt for you buddy. You and I want to be part of our children’s lives, and we are f~~~ed by time, distance and a f~~~wit court system designed to wreck men, no matter how honorable we may be.

I get the feeling that this will end expensively. I’m sorry, I want to be hopeful, I’ll celebrate your victory, and I’ll console you in defeat amigo. This will take a long time to adjudicate because she has the child there, and you are far away. Just the distance alone is daunting, and she is c~~~ing on that. talk to a lawyer about this…but be careful, you are paying the lawyer to be optimistic no matter what, and he will take your cash no matter what. she will delay and throw bulls~~~ everywhere, but the worst move is showing up for court unprepared… judge asks for something she says I dont have that. case put on hold while she gets her s~~~ together. If you do that, you will be held in contempt, and put in a holding cell.

How in the world are you going to attend trial sessions from 12,000 miles away? Jebus on the cross, I thought it was bad driving across half the US to get to court was bad, 12 time zones for you, s~~~!

Good luck brother…Come back here to rant if you need to…I used a racquetball court to scream and pound the f~~~ out of a ball for hours to keep my sanity.

[Anonymous 11]

surfdude12 wrote:

LOL then why did she marry a Brit….duh!!!!!!!!!!

It’s so female to do exactly what your parents hate.

Down South, there’s no young woman wilder than a preacher’s daughter. Little c~~~ gobblers they are.

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Anonymous wrote:

Dude, your son needs a man. There is no better man than his father. I’ve only ever witnessed one single mom worth a s~~~, and she is an Asian immigrant.

A MGTOW exfiltration mission is warranted.

Question: In my State, a child can decide at age 14 with which parent he wants to live. Does NZ have such a thing?

C pig has a good point. At some age it should be up to the child to decide which parent they wish to reside with. You clearly are looking out for your child’s well being – while it seems like your ex is more likely looking out for her next Big Mac with extra fries. I hope you somehow can get him back in your life.

[Anonymous 0]

DYD,

I realize this is not going to be much of a consolation to you, but your writing of all these problems will help others. I was just on the phone with my youngest son who’s going through a bit of a marriage crisis. I’m pushing him to take this opportunity to bail before he has any kids. I mentioned a bit of your situation to him. I’m sure there are many other men that will benefit from this too.

I am praying that you’ll get through this somehow.

Just a brief explanation of my son’s issue: His wife of only 3 years has been having a “improper emotional affair” with a married guy with 2 kids for the last 6 months. Supposedly she was just having lunches and visiting museums and text messaging this guy. No f~~~ing. It actually was first noticed a year ago and supposedly dealt with (church counseling and etc). Now she’s gone through similar counseling plus a paid counselor to deal with this. He phoned the guy and told him to leave his f~~~ing wife alone. He enabled tracking on his wife’s cell phone (an idea from right here on MGTOW, Narwal I think). He’s still not decided on what further action to take. I told him even if she never f~~~ed the guy, I’d still break it off because you can never trust her. She’ll wait till you’ve got kids and then f~~~ you in a nasty divorce.

[TwistParticipant]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

When she hung up on me I was so f~~~ing p~~~ed off. That rage just instantly surfaced. Motherf~~~er.

Makes you want to kill em to death. Let go brother, it will eat you.

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

she left her period blood all over the f~~~ing toilet seat for the 100th billionth time.

This is a common ploy – no way you are leaving a log by accident over and over again. To make them f~~~ing inedible to you. xW used to leave the little bloodies all wrapped up like tea party presents for me to two-finger into the trash.

[ironheartParticipant 942]

Contact NZ child services every time the kid takes off or goes all ape due to his anger.

Eventually they will build up enough of a case file that maybe you can pass in front of the court with an accusation of her being an unfit mother. Especially if the CAS workers think the kid is better off with you.

The kid is mad at the situation, and his lashing out at himself through doing stupid things is him trying to gain some personal level of control over the situation. It may be a bit about punishing both parents for the breakup, but more likely he is confused and angry and running away is him running away from his own pain and her control.

Find a good child therapist in NZ that agrees with you and that is pro-father (if one exists). The male doctors should be able to recommend one.

Might even save you a court battle if CAS Child Aid Society takes the case to court to have something done. You just become the safe guardian in the eyes of the court.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[joetechParticipant]

I would recommend that you start keeping a journal. Document every time he runs off, is picked up by the police, or whatever. Judges like journals. A good attorney with experience in international custody disputes is what you need. I’m praying for you brother. Document everything!

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

I tried taking my son with me but my c~~~ ex put a court order in place to stop me (so she says),

And now that he’s distressed over your absence, you’ll be the villain in every story that she tells her mates. In fact I’m willing to bet that, whenever she bitches about the problem to anybody dumb enough to listen, it’ll come out something like this: “His dad just took off to the UK without a second thought! I tried to ask, ‘What about your son?’, but he just left anyway!” – making her friends groan about “male immaturity”, and prolonging the perception that it’s always men who break families up.

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

I tried reasoning with the land whale on skype this morning and the c~~~ hung up on me, then said she was going to show what I wrote to ‘ the authorities’.

What did you write?

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

To add to my grief, my c~~~ mother is siding with my ex and will prob help her in court proceedings.

Why?

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

Shes like her dad and has an irrational chip on her shoulder regarding Brits.

Yet she had a child with one. These idiots can’t even follow the rules that they set for themselves.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Anonymous 1]

She put you in a very bad spot, the main problems is the court will side with her, and your records like the night spent in a cell will be thrown at your face whenever you take legal action.

I think you need legal support from qualified people, not sure how much it will help, you could try and contact MRA, maybe some fellas there have some advices for ya.

Hang in there DYD!

[Y_Participant 4591]

My sympathies on your problem. Can’t imagine how you must feel right now.

If you can bring it to the attention of some sympathetic newspaper or politician or child-support group in Britain who can help you. If you have some political help or even a newspaper behind you the situation may change. However this is a one off as people lose interest quickly so you need to use it carefully if it is available.

Unfortunately you are not Islamic. If you were they would throw the boy at you and ask you to please take him. For sure.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Anonymous wrote:

I hope things go better for you DYD. I think you sound better since you left that s~~~hole you had been in. This thing with your son on the other side of the Earth would test any man. I think my deal sucks, then I read this and I think there by the grace of God go I.

Thanks man. Life is a f~~~ing sour rotten bitch!

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Anonymous wrote:

I am praying that you’ll get through this somehow.

Cheers man I’m sure I will.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Thanks to all that have replied and posted words of support. Will reply to the rest of you guys tomorrow, im utterly f~~~ed from lack of sleep.

Take care brothers.

[ABParticipant 762]

My heart breaks for you buddy. I was cut out my child’s life and it took a (relatively) short court battle for me to reinstate access that should have never been denied to begin with. Ten months still felt like eternity, but that is child’s play compared to some of the drawn out cases I’ve read on here.

I have seen a few people in the thread saying about the importance of knowing your legal stance etc – I cannot stress enough, what got me through mine so quickly was pro-activeness and knowing my legal rights. I harassed the f~~~ out of the court system and pressured my solicitor relentlessly to move proceedings along. Never let it stagnate, be vehement, tenacious, unrelenting.

Not sure of the legalities in your situation, for me I referred to a website called Families Need Fathers which was a godsend in terms of free legal advice. I learned family court out the ass before I entered the court room – and when you’re knowledgeable on a subject, you are confident and can walk in head held high, never left reeling from an oversight.

It will not be easy, but then again nothing worth having ever is. Decide what you want, research what you need, and load your guns up for bloodshed. Her actions are a declaration of war, and history is written by the victor. Ensure your kids history is written by you, not her.

No-one's yet explained to me exactly what's so great // About slaving fifty years away on something that you hate // About meekly shuffling down the path of mediocrity // Well if that's your road then take it, but it's not the road for me.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Dashing-

It was difficult reading your post. I’m sorry you are going through this.

In my opinion, you need legal help badly.
You might also taking your son to see a counsellor.

I hope your attorney can offer some guidance and peace of mind. Hang in there.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Thanks for all your replies guys. Feeling too f~~~ed up and low to write much back at the moment. (Then i go and write a novel lol.) My gran is coming close to getting f~~~ing murdered by me. Such a pain in the ass and I can’t stand being around her for long.

I went to make a microwave curry at 1am in the morning, waiting for her to f~~~ off to bed and stop getting up walking around like a deranged zombie so i could get some peace and quiet, and I stepped in one of her many food and milk filled cat bowls/plates and got s~~~ all over my shoe. I kicked the plate in anger and its smashed apart and gone everywhere, so the c~~~ will see it in the morning and scold me for it. There is cat food and s~~~ all over the kitchen and living room floor. She is f~~~ing vile. Yet she has the nerve to call my auntie up and moan that i dont clean up after myself which is horse s~~~.

She’s helped herself to change on my desk and smashed these scented candles i left on the window sill i bought to de-stink the room out and just left the f~~~ing glass on the floor for me to step on. She doesn’t give a f~~~.

I managed to get a full time job via a c~~~sucking job agency as of monday next week.6am-2pm one week and 2pm-10pm the next, vice versa. Its until august i think. 9 quid an hour and a 15/20 min drive from my nans house house. It’s warehouse work. At least I’ll get away from the insufferable c~~~.

I haven’t slept properly in days. I keep having the same f~~~ed up dreams where im in the same place dealing with the same twisted irrational characters, walking through places that represent the many homes and places ive lived in, all twisting and changing like the M.C Escher staircase, and im caught up in this ceaseless frustration of trying to achieve a goal and being thwarted at every turn. Like im playing a role and then stopping half way though thinking this is a dream, f~~~ this!

Then waking up in the mornings to that moaning old c~~~ coming in my room and turning on the bedroom light and demanding I get up to take her some place.

I lost it today with her and told her to turn the f~~~ing light off and get the f~~~ out. I’m 32 not 13. I then heard her calling my auntie telling her what I’d done. F~~~ing blow me c~~~.

I get my first dole payment on Monday. I wont tell the c~~~s ive gotten a job until its gone into my bank account. They’ve been making me go to this ‘job club’ every day tues-friday for 30 mins where you sit in a group of other job seekers and listen to some post wall c~~~ talk a load of condescending bulls~~~ about how to get a job and how to act in an interview. These women are all thick as s~~~ but think they are Einstein. If you fail to turn up they cut your benefit.

Im saving up for New Zealand residency which is 600 quid. I managed to speak to my sons mother last night and she said she would still sponsor me. I think im gunna play it cool for now and just leave with my son once i get him a British passport. We will go on a ‘holiday’.

Apart from my son, my own life seems to have been written for me the day I was born. DYD will be taunted with the impression that he could be this and that and be very successful and happy, but we will f~~~ him over during adolescence and draw out and prolong his misery until he either shoots up fleeing city c~~~s or gives in to internal demise.

One of you guys has this as your signature (or did) and I f~~~ing love it, relate to it so much:

“I’ve sailed a sea of empty eyes, on a sinking ship, in a world of lies”.

DYD.

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