Deep down you already know the truth.

[narwhalParticipant]

I’d say two things repeating what others have stated. I think once you pressed for sex and she rejected you, you gave her all the leverage. She knew that she didn’t have to have to sex with you to keep you around. So you should have ended it there.

In that regard, I think it’s best to let her decide when sex is going to happen, or atleast give you definite signs. She’ll drive herself nuts wondering why you aren’t after her, and loses leverage when she caves in. Or…you just move on if you don’t want to wait.

The second thing…you just met this girl. She shouldn’t matter enough to you to bother checking up on her. If you don’t like the situation, then leave. If you don’t feel you can trust her, then leave. In that regard, it doesn’t matter whether she’s telling the truth or not, if you don’t trust her to tell the truth everytime.

I get that you want to put out how this woman behaved badly, but it’s more important to you to figure out what you could have done differently in order to have the relationship (or whatever) you want, and not waste your time. Maybe more importantly, be able to walk away without feeling emotionally cheated.

Ok. Then do it.

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

Well hey, no one got pregnant to create an 18 year leech on your wallet so that’s a win. 🙂

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Well, you could have offered to give her oral sex, no strings attached, and then seen if she tasted like bleach and pennies from the other guy.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

TBL225 wrote:

What do you guys think?

I think you put way too much effort into this s~~~.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

This story should have ended after the second paragraph. Once the vague “going away for the weekend” bulls~~~ starts, with non existent details, you should have punted immediately. Or at very least don’t chase her with texts, ignore her and wait for her to text you. Not texting her is the ultimate s~~~ test, women are such validation whores that they can not resist attention…if she’s not seeking yours, then you have your answer. Don’t be thirsty, be cold.

Sovereignty above all else.

[TBL225Participant 168]

It’s like a few of you have said, this was a date to f~~~ kind of deal. Also, once I realized it wasn’t happening I dropped her. I’m not sure why some of you seem to think I stayed orbiting around her. Followed the rules of Leykis 101. If by the third time she doesn’t put out, dump her ass. Did it cost me any money? Nope. Did I have fun gathering intel and putting some principles and knowledge to the test? Hell yeah. My whole line of questioning I don’t considering nagging. I didn’t respond to her or send mass messages when she wasn’t talking to me, but once I found out she was potentially (most definitely lying) I wanted to see how committed she was to that lie. All in all, it was an interesting experience. I’ve had plenty of hookups where it was one or two dates with a score. Always protect myself so need to worry brothers.

[TBL225Participant 168]

sidecar wrote:

TBL225 wrote:

What do you guys think?

I think you put way too much effort into this s~~~.

Quite possibly, but it was still fun to expose the c~~~ for who she was. After I found out I didn’t question her about it or anything. I deleted her number and moved on.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

TBL225 wrote:

this was a date to f~~~ kind of deal.

There’s no such thing.

[TBL225Participant 168]

mark wrote:

TBL225 wrote:

Again we fool around, no sex

THIS.

I am on your side. I am used to be called purple pill or whatever, but since no admin has banned my account, I am one of these guys who are MGTOW, in the sense of going my on way, but loves to f~~~ women. And so I “date” them, f~~~ them, drop them.

Most of the women I date are exactly like the one you mentioned. They have their chads, but realizing that the wall is getting closer, they try to find a loser (no offense but that is going to be you, or yours truly in my “beta impersonation game”) to keep around.

There are subtle variations. Chad could be an ex she tries to get back to, the dad of her secret kids, or a guy with a 9-inch personality who won´t commit. Take your pick.

The way I play this is by pretending to be a beta, as you just did. I do the first date knowing I am not going to get laid. Sometimes I even do a second date. BUT once I am at her place you better believe I am going to get laid or else (as in “never will I ever call her back”). That is where you failed.

She is going to put the carrot in front of you, and your job is to make sure she understands that it´s either sex or you are out. What I usually do is hang out for 30 minutes and, if she tries to avoid sex, I get the door. My usual wording, as I am getting ready to leave, is on the lines of “it seems we have no chemistry”. Her usual response is on the lines of “but I like you, it´s just that *insert BS*”. Since I don´t do BS, as I get closer to the door she hugs me and we f~~~.

This has happened to me, in the exact sequence as described above, no less than 20 times.

One more piece of free advice: Women are EXPERTS in trying to make you feel you are “almost there”. Attention whores all of them. Do not fall for that trick. If you cannot close the deal in under 3 dates, you are not going to close it at all or, worse still, by the time you manage to close it you will realize it wasn´t even worth it the time.

You know what? I tried that technique of yours for the first time last year and you’re absolutely right. It works. Definitely should have used it. Shame on me there!

[TBL225Participant 168]

sidecar wrote:

TBL225 wrote:

this was a date to f~~~ kind of deal.

There’s no such thing.

How do you figure? Trick the c~~~ into a date just to pump and dump.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

TBL225 wrote:

Quite possibly, but it was still fun to expose the c~~~ for who she was.

As if the world needs any more proof that AWALT.

TBL225 wrote:

Trick the c~~~ into a date just to pump and dump.

Don’t date at all. It’s just a ritual on the path to marriage. It has nothing to do with f~~~ing whatsoever.

You can f~~~ a woman without dating her, and, as you have just discovered, you can date a woman without ever f~~~ing her. So why bother with dating?

[TBL225Participant 168]

sidecar wrote:

TBL225 wrote:

Quite possibly, but it was still fun to expose the c~~~ for who she was.

As if the world needs any more proof that AWALT.

TBL225 wrote:

Trick the c~~~ into a date just to pump and dump.

Don’t date at all. It’s just a ritual on the path to marriage. It has nothing to do with f~~~ing whatsoever.

You can f~~~ a woman without dating her, and, as you have just discovered, you can date a woman without ever f~~~ing her. So why bother with dating?

You speak the truth sidecar! Oh well it is what it is.

[HydroParticipant 164]

TBL225 wrote:

I did a quick drive by of her place and guess what? Her car was there. Parked next to her car was another car with state license plates of the place she supposedly went to visit.

Sky-O wrote:

Great covert ops intel gathering !!

Didn’t you know that since you are one of the 3rd class, disposable dregs of society that any of these “intel gathering” on women are prohibited? The women passed a law against it and you are now a criminal. They call it stalking.

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