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Had a recent experience that I’d like to share to gather some thoughts on the matter. I’ve been playing with the idea of dating again (shame on me). For the past couple years I’ve been on the fence and figured I’d put some of my new found knowledge to the test to see if I’ve really learned anything.
Backstory: Met said awalt and began talking for a week or so. Decided to meet up for a drink or two. Afterwards, went back to her place, had a few more drinks, and fooled around a bit, no sex, but you get the idea. A few days maybe a week go by and I ask if she wants to hangout. She invites me over after work to chill. Again we fool around, no sex, she blames lady problems on her birth control. At this point I’m starting to get suspicious.
At the end of the week I decide to try to close the deal or end it. Ask her if she wanted to hang out and she tells me that she’s going away for the weekend. Doesn’t say where or anything else. I say “okay” and go about my day. Started noticing that communication dropped off the deep end. Tried talking to her and all she said was she was tired from her two hour drive to another state. After that, communication dropped. She went from asking me about my day and being interested to nonexistent. As I became more curious, I pressed for answers. I wanted to see if the red flags I saw where true. Eventually she told me she was visiting “a friend” in this state. Didn’t go into much detail at all. Validation was setting in. Decided to confirm so I did something kinda weird, but I’m glad I did it. The red flags where all there and a desolating red pill in my gut told me they were true. What did I do? I did a quick drive by of her place and guess what? Her car was there. Parked next to her car was another car with state license plates of the place she supposedly went to visit.
Decided to see if she would commit to her story and confirm she actually drove her car and it wasn’t a coincidence. Contacted her to see how her trip was going and asked if she was doing any chads…I mean anything fun. Her response? “Not really, just talking, catching up”. Again, lack of detail and response. So I countered with, while you’re out there, you should check out this place. I know if I drove out there I’d get the most out of my gas. I get terrible mileage. How did you do with your car? I’m guessing a quarter tank? Several hours later she replied, “I wish! About half a tank, my car sucks on gas”. From this point on I ignored her. A couple days went by with no contact. Yesterday she sends me a message and I didn’t reply.
So my thoughts…It looks like all of the signs I saw where legit. My only explaination for her lie is she’s hooking up with some chad, hence why she wouldn’t put out with me and communication dropped off the chart. What do you guys think?
I’ve been playing with the idea of dating again
Please stop. Why are you doing this to yourself?
So my thoughts…It looks like all of the signs I saw where legit.
Yes, they were. Your biology took over and you kept trying to justify everything.
I think your second response answers the first question. I’ve noticed everyone on here has their own version of going their own way. I’m aware of all of the b.s. that can happen, but at the same time I’m not about to go monk mode.
I’m just gonna be blunt here. With all due respect sir, have you not read the stories, have you not read the articles here on the site? Have you not seen the youtube videos? This site is the “How To” guide to avoiding women. And for good reason. You must be a glutton for punishment.
Has the concept of “one phone call away” not sunk in yet? Has the fact that a vagina retains a percentage of cum every time a guy shoots his load, that you will inevitably be swallowing when you go down on her not hit you yet? Has the endless videos of women physically abusing men, and destroying their property in a rage not resonated with you yet? I mean, dude, c’mon!
So my thoughts…It looks like all of the signs I saw where legit.
The choice is yours, brother! You are trying to justify that 0.000001% of “success”. It will NEVER happen.
A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
Had a recent experience that I’d like to share to gather some thoughts on the matter. I’ve been playing with the idea of dating again (shame on me). For the past couple years I’ve been on the fence and figured I’d put some of my new found knowledge to the test to see if I’ve really learned anything.
Backstory: Met said awalt and began talking for a week or so. Decided to meet up for a drink or two. Afterwards, went back to her place, had a few more drinks, and fooled around a bit, no sex, but you get the idea. A few days maybe a week go by and I ask if she wants to hangout. She invites me over after work to chill. Again we fool around, no sex, she blames lady problems on her birth control. At this point I’m starting to get suspicious.
At the end of the week I decide to try to close the deal or end it. Ask her if she wanted to hang out and she tells me that she’s going away for the weekend. Doesn’t say where or anything else. I say “okay” and go about my day. Started noticing that communication dropped off the deep end. Tried talking to her and all she said was she was tired from her two hour drive to another state. After that, communication dropped. She went from asking me about my day and being interested to nonexistent. As I became more curious, I pressed for answers. I wanted to see if the red flags I saw where true. Eventually she told me she was visiting “a friend” in this state. Didn’t go into much detail at all. Validation was setting in. Decided to confirm so I did something kinda weird, but I’m glad I did it. The red flags where all there and a desolating red pill in my gut told me they were true. What did I do? I did a quick drive by of her place and guess what? Her car was there. Parked next to her car was another car with state license plates of the place she supposedly went to visit.
Decided to see if she would commit to her story and confirm she actually drove her car and it wasn’t a coincidence. Contacted her to see how her trip was going and asked if she was doing any chads…I mean anything fun. Her response? “Not really, just talking, catching up”. Again, lack of detail and response. So I countered with, while you’re out there, you should check out this place. I know if I drove out there I’d get the most out of my gas. I get terrible mileage. How did you do with your car? I’m guessing a quarter tank? Several hours later she replied, “I wish! About half a tank, my car sucks on gas”. From this point on I ignored her. A couple days went by with no contact. Yesterday she sends me a message and I didn’t reply.
So my thoughts…It looks like all of the signs I saw where legit. My only explaination for her lie is she’s hooking up with some chad, hence why she wouldn’t put out with me and communication dropped off the chart. What do you guys think?
She dropped you because she didn’t see you as provider material and you weren’t “exciting enough” to keep around because every time you were with her, you never sealed the deal. You knew where you were going with this interaction, and she eventually saw it too. Now you’re at worst cut off and at best an orbiter. Cut bait with this chick.
She dropped you because she didn’t see you as provider material and you weren’t “exciting enough” to keep around because every time you were with her, you never sealed the deal. You knew where you were going with this interaction, and she eventually saw it too. Now you’re at worst cut off and at best an orbiter. Cut bait with this chick.
Bingo!
Fooling around with a woman constantly without having sex ultimately puts you at worse status than a f~~~ buddy, which was probably where you COULD have headed given your mentality at this point had things played out differently. Now either SHE put you in the “friend zone” or your actions put yourself in the “friend zone”. The fact that you’re surprised by this is not in itself surprising. It’s like you expected to have a blue pill relationship with a red pilled mind set and then were surprised when that worked out to the contrary.
Sigh…you guys…did the fact that this was an experiment go totally over your heads? Where did I mention I was looking for a nawalt? Have I read the articles, stories, and watched the videos? Yes. Did I go into this expecting the outcome that happened? Yes. Glutton for punishment? No not at all. Was there a biological thing that made me try this? Absolutely, but the affirmation from this experience put that in check and reassured me of what I’ve learned from the reading, listening, and watching. Also figured I’d share for those who are on the fence or lurking. I could see if I posted this crap on a weekly basis, but give me a break! You can’t honestly tell me that in all of your time you haven’t had a moment.
Has the fact that a vagina retains a percentage of cum every time a guy shoots his load, that you will inevitably be swallowing when you go down on her not hit you yet? Has the endless videos of women physically abusing men, and destroying their
What person in their right mind goes down on a c~~~? Wrap it, smash it, and leave. That’s the name of the game if you so choose to play.
Cut bait with this chick.
I did.
So my thoughts…It looks like all of the signs I saw where legit.
The choice is yours, brother! You are trying to justify that 0.000001% of “success”. It will NEVER happen.
Wasn’t trying to justify anything other than what I’ve read and have begun to believe is true.
Anonymous13Whether she was with a Chad or not.
She LIED.
GAME OVER.
Dude. Stop. Just let it go. There are 7+ billion people in this world. Presumably half or more are women. There are metric tons of other vagina… not in use. Go poke one of those. This one is clearly not worth the time.
You can date, to f~~~, no sex in first date out.
She covers her expenses, you already are giving her your time, she ain’t special, she is just a person.
You f~~~, get dress and leave.
If you can deal with the drama, go on, but if not… might death have mercy on you.
MGTOW are not MONKS, I’m a monk by choice, but remember AWALT.
Ohhh never ask for explanations to a woman, she owes you nothing, you don’t owe her s~~~. She stop talking?
Delete contact and ADIOS PUTA.
why ask for what you already know?
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
You were nagging her. Nagging men almost never get sex. They almost never get even a platonic relationship. Unless they’re rich.
If you want dating tips, you’d have better luck on a PUA forum. But if you do manage to get into a relationship, even something temporary, be prepared to deal with the consequences.
A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)
Never get attached to a woman. Treat a woman like a man. If your buddy starts avoiding you, ask him directly or move on. It is better to never be involved with the modern woman, because they do not care about you. You are a meal ticket, a little cash on the side, and she has no interest in your feelings and what the outcome is for you. You are another man in the buffet line of men for these sluts.
Again we fool around, no sex
THIS.
I am on your side. I am used to be called purple pill or whatever, but since no admin has banned my account, I am one of these guys who are MGTOW, in the sense of going my on way, but loves to f~~~ women. And so I “date” them, f~~~ them, drop them.
Most of the women I date are exactly like the one you mentioned. They have their chads, but realizing that the wall is getting closer, they try to find a loser (no offense but that is going to be you, or yours truly in my “beta impersonation game”) to keep around.
There are subtle variations. Chad could be an ex she tries to get back to, the dad of her secret kids, or a guy with a 9-inch personality who won´t commit. Take your pick.
The way I play this is by pretending to be a beta, as you just did. I do the first date knowing I am not going to get laid. Sometimes I even do a second date. BUT once I am at her place you better believe I am going to get laid or else (as in “never will I ever call her back”). That is where you failed.
She is going to put the carrot in front of you, and your job is to make sure she understands that it´s either sex or you are out. What I usually do is hang out for 30 minutes and, if she tries to avoid sex, I get the door. My usual wording, as I am getting ready to leave, is on the lines of “it seems we have no chemistry”. Her usual response is on the lines of “but I like you, it´s just that *insert BS*”. Since I don´t do BS, as I get closer to the door she hugs me and we f~~~.
This has happened to me, in the exact sequence as described above, no less than 20 times.
One more piece of free advice: Women are EXPERTS in trying to make you feel you are “almost there”. Attention whores all of them. Do not fall for that trick. If you cannot close the deal in under 3 dates, you are not going to close it at all or, worse still, by the time you manage to close it you will realize it wasn´t even worth it the time.
Great covert ops intel gathering !!
I had to run a mission on a lying pumpkin once.
I knew something was up and she was cheating but had no concrete info.
It was tactical on multiple levels. Even went online and ordered roses to be delivered to her address (with a different sender name, LOL) on one of the days she said she would be gone ‘visiting my parent’s. Ha, ha.
So I had confirmation she got them that day: While at home.
Then when she continued the charade and called me when she ‘just got home and I’m so exhausted’ She mentioned, ‘my brother sent me beautiful roses’
OMG!! The slut was even lying about that.
I used a prepaid Visa for the delivery order. LOL
And the entire time she thought another guy she was banging sent them.
Anonymous13OMG!! The slut was even lying about that.
Women LIE like they breath.
Lying is so natural to them they don’t always realise the extent they lie.
I’ve heard my ex on the phone lying to friends and family about absolute meaningless, piddling, trivial s~~~.
She’s saying it with such self conviction it beggars belief.
I always thought at the time she must have done it for some reason, but NO.
She was just a lying f~~~ing c~~~.
Hungout once
Hungout twice
She went from asking me about my day and being interested to nonexistent. As I became more curious, I pressed for answers.
Ah c’mon man!
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