Debate with the Mediator

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

CombatRoll wrote:

OK Gents — I’ve cooled down. Not letter to the f~~~~~ ass mediator.

How’s this for icing on the cake. The Selfish One texted me asking for help with money this morning (14 hours after mediation), stating that she can’t pay for everything based on what I’m giving her. Her final words, “You got me. You really did”.

I wouldn’t give her the sweat off my b~~~~…

Answer: No. Pay what you agreed to.

If the situation was reversed the judges and lawyers would cite you for contempt and throw you in jail for not paying. And laugh about it to your face while doing so.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

CombatRoll wrote:

So yesterday I endured the ass raping portion of what we know as divorce mediation.

During the half day I spent paying 2 lawyers to divi up my hard earned assets I had a couple rubs with the mediator. I knew if I totally blew my stack at him that it would hurt my wallet even more, but I wasn’t going to just roll over and take his bulls~~~ as gospel.

Midway through we were discussing a detail about custody and why it needed to be left open ended in a way. I won’t go into the minutia but the meat of it was I disagreed and wanted firm language in the agreement. We bantered about and he argued that the language should be less detailed and that we could always go back to court if needed.

That is where I challenged him. I said “I’m a bit queasy with the court being so biased towards men, so I prefer to have these details settled with firm language in the agreement”. He then scoffed at me and said the courts were in no way biased towards men!

I laughed and asked if he was joking. “Counselor, you and I both know that a woman must be a raging crack head to lose custody of her child!”. He then burst out, “Let me ask you a question. Are you a republican?”. I knew I had him on the ropes b/c he was losing his composure. “I said yes, and I can tell you are a democrat”. I smiled and he snidely said that republicans are more concerned about the outcome than the process.

I said guilty as charged. We are concerned about outcomes and when that outcome is influenced by a biased body it makes me very queazy.

He dug his hole deeper. “How can you know where you will be in a year and if this language is specific that could be bad for you and the child. For example, did you KNOW a year ago you would be divorcing?”. YES, I answered without one half second of hesitation.
This took the breath from him. He just shook his head.

He brought this up in a snide way in front of my lawyer (a female) later in the day when we were chatting and waiting on paperwork. She stopped what she was doing and said,”Oh, I’ve witnessed court bias against men many times. I don’t think it will apply to you b/c your kids are older, but definitely and more so in cases where younger kids are involved I’ve seen bias”.

At another point the STBX was called out about money she owed and was in violation of the court order for not paying. She owed me money.
When the lying bitch was pressured to pay me she stormed out of the room. The mediator Douche looked at me and said, “you know often at the end of mediation it helps if you give in some”.

I asked, “So you want me to absorb her court ordered costs? The money the agreement stated she would pay? You want me to absorb this after all I just lost? You realize our entire marriage when she didn’t want to be an adult she cried and stormed out of the room and you just fell for it”.

Short story long: The mediator libtard douchebag was a condescending asshat who is a major part of the problem in this country. I have half a mind to write him a letter thanking him for his mediation, but pointing out that he was in fact showing preference to the female during this process and he is a major contributor to the mistreatment of men in this county by our legal system.

Jeez where was your lawyer during all this? She claims to know about anti-male bias, where was she having your back when all this crap was going down?

She was with the other lawyer going over numbers and she was getting it done! I was left with Mr. Feel Good F~~~ Face Libtard and my STBX talking about custody.

[OldBillParticipant]

CombatRoll wrote:

OK Gents — I’ve cooled down. Not letter to the f~~~~~ ass mediator.

That’s very good to read, Combat Roll.

The Selfish One texted me asking for help with money this morning (14 hours after mediation), stating that she can’t pay for everything based on what I’m giving her. Her final words, “You got me. You really did”.

Notice how she’s already spinning the situation and making it all your fault. She’s the one who wanted to go to court and she’s the one who got a lawyer first. Now that the court she wanted involved hasn’t financially eviscerated you to her liking, the decision to divorce and involve the courts was your decision.

Women are able to lie so well because they constantly practice lying to themselves.

I wouldn’t give her the sweat off my b~~~~…

That’s a good start. You also shouldn’t give her a hearing. That is, you should not respond to any phone calls, texts, emails, letters, or other attempts at communication. Inform her through your lawyer that all communication with you must be through your lawyer and that any attempt at direct communication will be ignored.

By imposing this “blackout”, you will limit her ability to nibble around the edges of the legal agreements currently being made. Listen to her complaints today and you’ll be granting her requests tomorrow. Hold her to every jot and tittle. Give her what she’s legally obligated to and nothing more.

She wanted it this way, so give it to her good and hard.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 12]

Oldbill, i had thoughts along your lines, like
“girlfriend splits with boyfriend, boyfriend blocks all known numbers, gets off the fakebook, spamlists her incoming mails… retracts all vectors of communication” to be on the safe side.

but there is a daughter involved so i wonder is a “blackout” really a possibility or a good idea?
I don’t know, man… i am scratching my beard over this.
have no better advice or thoughts.

[Space CowboyParticipant 1466]

You won by the sounds of it. The fact the stbxw text you seemingly defeated is a good start. Keep being cold and calculating, people say that like it’s a bad thing but women are masters at it. I hope she is suffering and struggling, consequences suck and she is just learning about them.
My only regrets ending past relationships is because I ended a few of them like a sucker, let’s be friends and such. No more, those bridges are burnt and blocked. No replies, cold, no branching back to me. F~~~ em all.

"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

but there is a daughter involved so i wonder is a “blackout” really a possibility or a good idea?

The daughter is a teen and, presumably, has her own phone. If she doesn’t, Combat Roll can easily provide her with one.

Selfish One wanted to involve lawyers, so hold her to that decision.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 12]

Hmm, yea – that should work.
Hope the SO does not start to confiscate things like…cell phones. Just to f~~~ with the Kid.
f*ng mess. maybe i am being too negative here.

I just sense this “you got me, Papi, you win” to be a trap without being too sure how to react/what attitude to adopt.
Sonsabitches be sneaky buggers.
Very.

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

OldBill wrote:

g-mow wrote:

but there is a daughter involved so i wonder is a “blackout” really a possibility or a good idea?

The daughter is a teen and, presumably, has her own phone. If she doesn’t, Combat Roll can easily provide her with one.

Selfish One wanted to involve lawyers, so hold her to that decision.

Daughter has a phone and a preteen. She and I have been getting along really well lately.

Anonymous wrote:

Hmm, yea – that should work.
Hope the SO does not start to confiscate things like…cell phones. Just to f~~~ with the Kid.
f*ng mess. maybe i am being too negative here.

I just sense this “you got me, Papi, you win” to be a trap without being too sure how to react/what attitude to adopt.
Sonsabitches be sneaky buggers.
Very.

I wouldn’t put it past her, but the beauty is we file this agreement in court this week and ONLY child support can be reopened and she makes good money so this isn’t a huge issue.

The spousal support, division of assets, etc. NOPE – done deal!

[OldBillParticipant]

CombatRoll wrote:

Daughter has a phone and a preteen.

Better and better. That means the chances of the Selfish One somehow stifling contact with your daughter aren’t as likely.

G-mow’s concerns are well-founded. Ex-wives routinely try to prevent communication between fathers and their children.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Anonymous 12]

Dude, if it you DO have an agreement and it’s all gonna be sent to the Court system, Reviewed and Signed by all parties… this week?!
And the only subject open to further adjustment is child support…?

Then this would have been a very fast action.

I keep my fingers crossed for you man.

[VladParticipant 210]

CombatRoll wrote:

I smiled and he snidely said that republicans are more concerned about the outcome than the process.

WTF?? I just don’t get these people… I would thought a minute, then answered “Everyone just wants the outcome, and everyone would gladly skip process to get outcome. Without this attitude mediation would not existed, everyone just went to court, and you’d be out of job.”

CombatRoll wrote:

“you know often at the end of mediation it helps if you give in some”.

I would asked: “Please clarify. Helps who?”. Shuts them most of the time.

Marriage is the tomb of love (c)Giacomo Casanova

[Anonymous 12]

plus, that also infers that… not giving in = not helping, is stalling, is blocking progress.

all these tiny little messages…

bulls~~~ bombs.

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