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So yesterday I endured the ass raping portion of what we know as divorce mediation.
During the half day I spent paying 2 lawyers to divi up my hard earned assets I had a couple rubs with the mediator. I knew if I totally blew my stack at him that it would hurt my wallet even more, but I wasn’t going to just roll over and take his bulls~~~ as gospel.
Midway through we were discussing a detail about custody and why it needed to be left open ended in a way. I won’t go into the minutia but the meat of it was I disagreed and wanted firm language in the agreement. We bantered about and he argued that the language should be less detailed and that we could always go back to court if needed.
That is where I challenged him. I said “I’m a bit queasy with the court being so biased towards men, so I prefer to have these details settled with firm language in the agreement”. He then scoffed at me and said the courts were in no way biased towards men!
I laughed and asked if he was joking. “Counselor, you and I both know that a woman must be a raging crack head to lose custody of her child!”. He then burst out, “Let me ask you a question. Are you a republican?”. I knew I had him on the ropes b/c he was losing his composure. “I said yes, and I can tell you are a democrat”. I smiled and he snidely said that republicans are more concerned about the outcome than the process.
I said guilty as charged. We are concerned about outcomes and when that outcome is influenced by a biased body it makes me very queazy.
He dug his hole deeper. “How can you know where you will be in a year and if this language is specific that could be bad for you and the child. For example, did you KNOW a year ago you would be divorcing?”. YES, I answered without one half second of hesitation.
This took the breath from him. He just shook his head.He brought this up in a snide way in front of my lawyer (a female) later in the day when we were chatting and waiting on paperwork. She stopped what she was doing and said,”Oh, I’ve witnessed court bias against men many times. I don’t think it will apply to you b/c your kids are older, but definitely and more so in cases where younger kids are involved I’ve seen bias”.
At another point the STBX was called out about money she owed and was in violation of the court order for not paying. She owed me money.
When the lying bitch was pressured to pay me she stormed out of the room. The mediator Douche looked at me and said, “you know often at the end of mediation it helps if you give in some”.I asked, “So you want me to absorb her court ordered costs? The money the agreement stated she would pay? You want me to absorb this after all I just lost? You realize our entire marriage when she didn’t want to be an adult she cried and stormed out of the room and you just fell for it”.
Short story long: The mediator libtard douchebag was a condescending asshat who is a major part of the problem in this country. I have half a mind to write him a letter thanking him for his mediation, but pointing out that he was in fact showing preference to the female during this process and he is a major contributor to the mistreatment of men in this county by our legal system.
More concerned about the outcome than the process? The hell with the “process”, get er done right! That guy is a knob!! And who the hell care which political party? In this situation, it make no difference. Sounds like your “lawyer” needs to step up to the plate a bit, have her do what women do best………..BITCH!
Hang in there, the sun will come up on a new day tomorrow, trust me.OATHKEEPERS, not on our watch. MOLON LABE
Hold on to your b~~~~ pall and once you have them secured on your hand, RUN AWAY WITH THEM.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
I smiled and he snidely said that republicans are more concerned about the outcome than the process.
Process is how you make Velveeta and manginas.
Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.
Well done brother. Mediation is a high pressure/ feels good tactic by the courts to justify paying 2x the legal cost to loose something in the process.
Unfortunately everything is modifiable in the case of divorce, so I experienced this multiple times. The last time I was intent on ending the food chain quickly and the “team” informed me that if I did not comporimize that I would end up in court. I told them to bring it. The look was priceless
skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

Anonymous12Good to hear you did not want to cover the cost that the court has ordered HER to pay.
That is a matter between the Selfish one, and the Judge. As you are on the sideline, do not interfere with what the Judge has ordered.
Even if – you might get yourself in trouble for accepting to pay those costs.
I would even say that if you ever interfere in a matter that is not directly yours, Seek approval before executing anything. always respectful, approved, no surprises, no confusion.Don’t write that letter to the Mediator, no matter how you feel at this point in the process.
Why?
First, he did a job, he got paid to do certain things, and he did them, and that is that.
Second, What ever your words, it can be turned and twisted against you. Do not hand over ammo to your enemy. Not even spent casings. None. The judge migh get his/her hands on it and interpret your letter as mockery. Respectful and Neutral appear to be the position to be in.
Third… not worth your Time. And Time is all you got left, so spend it on yourself and those deserving it?Thank you for updating us.
Hope the road ahead goes just as “smooth”.Don’t write that letter to the Mediator, no matter how you feel at this point in the process.
Please heed g-mow’s advice, Combat Roll. Do not write that letter, do not send that letter. It can only hurt you.
Besides, the mediator isn’t worth the effort of writing a letter.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
He then scoffed at me and said the courts were in no way biased towards men!
What an ASSHOLE !!
The ONLY reason I don’t file for divorce YESTERDAY is because SHE would get Custody of the kids even though the KIDS would rather stay with me ANY DAY. She P~~~es the kids off daily, and is a mean bitch to them as well, but the “non-biased” courts would grant her custody.
Hang in there, every day you are one step closer, and YOU NEVER HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN.
In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

Anonymous42One word; Massachusetts.
Having said that, I’ve learned to never allow the greedy tentacles of modern women and their bias court system to ever have their way with me.
The contract between government and citizen is NULL&VOID by the contractual demands made on men and not on women, otherwise what they call INEQUALITY.
ladies, Tower has spoken, now roll up the contract, shove it up your ass, then f~~~ off and die!
OK Gents — I’ve cooled down. Not letter to the f~~~~~ ass mediator.
How’s this for icing on the cake. The Selfish One texted me asking for help with money this morning (14 hours after mediation), stating that she can’t pay for everything based on what I’m giving her. Her final words, “You got me. You really did”.
I wouldn’t give her the sweat off my b~~~~…

Anonymous1They are only interested in the process when it benefits them.
Forget the process when a phone call removes you from the house and takes your assets. Forget the process when they want your firearms. Or puts you on some list to deny you of rights.
Isn’t it amazing how they think you’ll still provide for them even after separation or divorce? When I was going through my divorce, my lawyer advised me to stop depositing money into the joint bank account, but to keep the account open. I did exactly that. At one point my (now ex-) texted me and asked if I knew that the account was almost empty. I said, “sure I do. I stopped depositing my pay into it a month ago. I also stopped withdrawing or spending any money from it two months ago — so this is on you.” She actually thought I’d provide for her new lifestyle with “Chad” and his kids! Unreal! Her attorney threatened to apply for a “temporary support order” but that would have gone nowhere because I could prove she was already cohabiting with another man (which not only would have disqualified her from getting temporary support… but in the end, at the final hearing it put up a permanent bar against her ever receiving alimony).
OK Gents — I’ve cooled down. Not letter to the f~~~~~ ass mediator.
How’s this for icing on the cake. The Selfish One texted me asking for help with money this morning (14 hours after mediation), stating that she can’t pay for everything based on what I’m giving her. Her final words, “You got me. You really did”.
I wouldn’t give her the sweat off my b~~~~…

Anonymous18The counselor/mediator type jobs has to have the highest proportion of brainwashed manginas out there.
A pity the exchange with the mediator wasn’t covertly recorded. Political abuse would certainly be construed as gross misconduct.
More concerned about the outcome than the process? The hell with the “process”, get er done right! That guy is a knob!! And who the hell care which political party? In this situation, it make no difference. Sounds like your “lawyer” needs to step up to the plate a bit, have her do what women do best………..BITCH!
Hang in there, the sun will come up on a new day tomorrow, trust me.Bob has hit the nail on the head—this was code for “the ends justify the means”. So the means are the important issue because it can be manipulated to produce any end they desire. This is why when libtards lose elections they then fall back on the courts to push their agenda.
i did similar.
my lawyer said nothing and i had to defend myself.
keep up the good work brother.OK Gents — I’ve cooled down. Not letter to the f~~~~~ ass mediator.
How’s this for icing on the cake. The Selfish One texted me asking for help with money this morning (14 hours after mediation), stating that she can’t pay for everything based on what I’m giving her. Her final words, “You got me. You really did”.
I wouldn’t give her the sweat off my b~~~~…
I recommend that you never communicate directly with her, unless absolutely impossible to do otherwise. This rule served me well.
Route all communications through your attorney; Costs more right now, but less in the long run."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

Anonymous12OK Gents — I’ve cooled down. Not letter to the f~~~~~ ass mediator.
How’s this for icing on the cake. The Selfish One texted me asking for help with money this morning (14 hours after mediation), stating that she can’t pay for everything based on what I’m giving her. Her final words, “You got me. You really did”.
I wouldn’t give her the sweat off my b~~~~…
Smoke and mirrors ALERT!
You are unstable and not fully calmed down yet.
NO COMMS!
Run silent run deep.
No anger. calculate every shot double and triple.…and once more confirmation that you are only a wallet to her, most likely always were.
Go back in time, you sure as f~~~ will find evidence of that.I´m sorry.
F~~~ no i aint.Edit: for God´s sake! Don´t respond! I know there is a LOT you want to tell her right now – from “there you go, you suck at life” to “f~~~ off and die”, but DO NOT!
Not alone, not when your daughter is with you, never!
Go through your lawyer.
Her sending letters makes you think more than once because it is so expensive – it prevents an emotional response.
Plus she would refuse to soil her reputation and get dragged into drama.Lawyers are interested in “the process” because when they get to the outcome, they don’t get to bill you any more.
So yesterday I endured the ass raping portion of what we know as divorce mediation.
During the half day I spent paying 2 lawyers to divi up my hard earned assets I had a couple rubs with the mediator. I knew if I totally blew my stack at him that it would hurt my wallet even more, but I wasn’t going to just roll over and take his bulls~~~ as gospel.
Midway through we were discussing a detail about custody and why it needed to be left open ended in a way. I won’t go into the minutia but the meat of it was I disagreed and wanted firm language in the agreement. We bantered about and he argued that the language should be less detailed and that we could always go back to court if needed.
That is where I challenged him. I said “I’m a bit queasy with the court being so biased towards men, so I prefer to have these details settled with firm language in the agreement”. He then scoffed at me and said the courts were in no way biased towards men!
I laughed and asked if he was joking. “Counselor, you and I both know that a woman must be a raging crack head to lose custody of her child!”. He then burst out, “Let me ask you a question. Are you a republican?”. I knew I had him on the ropes b/c he was losing his composure. “I said yes, and I can tell you are a democrat”. I smiled and he snidely said that republicans are more concerned about the outcome than the process.
I said guilty as charged. We are concerned about outcomes and when that outcome is influenced by a biased body it makes me very queazy.
He dug his hole deeper. “How can you know where you will be in a year and if this language is specific that could be bad for you and the child. For example, did you KNOW a year ago you would be divorcing?”. YES, I answered without one half second of hesitation.
This took the breath from him. He just shook his head.He brought this up in a snide way in front of my lawyer (a female) later in the day when we were chatting and waiting on paperwork. She stopped what she was doing and said,”Oh, I’ve witnessed court bias against men many times. I don’t think it will apply to you b/c your kids are older, but definitely and more so in cases where younger kids are involved I’ve seen bias”.
At another point the STBX was called out about money she owed and was in violation of the court order for not paying. She owed me money.
When the lying bitch was pressured to pay me she stormed out of the room. The mediator Douche looked at me and said, “you know often at the end of mediation it helps if you give in some”.I asked, “So you want me to absorb her court ordered costs? The money the agreement stated she would pay? You want me to absorb this after all I just lost? You realize our entire marriage when she didn’t want to be an adult she cried and stormed out of the room and you just fell for it”.
Short story long: The mediator libtard douchebag was a condescending asshat who is a major part of the problem in this country. I have half a mind to write him a letter thanking him for his mediation, but pointing out that he was in fact showing preference to the female during this process and he is a major contributor to the mistreatment of men in this county by our legal system.
Jeez where was your lawyer during all this? She claims to know about anti-male bias, where was she having your back when all this crap was going down?
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
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