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Women think that men fear rejection. Wrong! LOL
Men fear loss of self, loss of wealth and freedom. They fear the ol’ bait and switch.

Swallow this RED PILL ===> Men will lay down their lives for their brothers, their women and their children. This makes Men useful as slaves. Women will lay down their lives for ONLY their children. To expect more from women is just a FANTASY created by society and reinforced by the unconditional love that we experienced from our Mothers. The key to freedom is the understanding that the woman you meet is not going to fantastically love you like your Mother did. If you buy into the fantasy, then she is your new master. If you do not buy into the fantasy, then she is nothing, and you retain your freedom.
Neither,
To me, at age 32 soon to be 33 it all depends on two questions that I’ve learned to constantly ask myself, “Why are they interested now? and What’s in it for me?”.
Society gave me a role and expected me to fulfill that role and that role was to be beta bux. I’ve determined that by the “just be yourself”, “you’re a nice guy”, “you can’t date young women you’re too old”, “you can only date single moms and uglies now”, etc….. all the bs they fed me when they couldn’t even answer my simple question when it came to dating “what’s wrong with me?”. MGTOW and the red pill gave me that answer when everyone else avoided, lied to me, and gave me bulls~~~ answers. I don’t blame them though, because unconsciously they wanted me to fulfill that beta bux role that society casted upon me. I was suppose to be another small cog that kept the machine turning.
Since society has failed my expectation, I am not obligated to fulfill society’s needs. I am friendly with the women I am in contact with but I do know that pursuing any romantic routes with them is impossible. I have learned quickly where I stood in their eyes and learned quickly how different they interact with men that they truly are attracted to compared to me. I have to expend more effort and invest in more time in these women just to have them notice me for being more than just the “nice” guy. Frankly, I’m tired, heavily disappointed, and short on the f~~~s that I can give.
I learned that there are two men that women see:
The men that they f~~~ but don’t marry.
The men that they marry but don’t f~~~.MGTOW was my answer and is my salvation. I’ve never had a girlfriend and only had one instance of drunken ons with a single mom. Instead of putting time, energy, and effort into something I can’t control like “attraction” and “chemistry”, I throw them into becoming the best version of myself(lifting, trying to advance career, etc..) and try to permanently kill that blue pill illusion that we were fed since birth, the american dream.
I am neither Alpha, Beta, Omega, or True Forced Loneliness….
I am becoming a free man.
Epic video RoyDal. Young women proudly advertise they have “More issues than Vogue”. You don’t say….
Women have “issues”, men have “problems”. So, I can raise her “issues” with 99 problems, and guess what is not one?
As for myself, I have a mess called “my life” I need to clean up, that is more important than trying to chase a woman down. So, it in no way is fear. There may of been rejection and so on, but I need to move by it and clear out the wilderness as I go ways not done before and have to get them to work. I only have time for real friends and allies. I do NOT have time for “issues”. I am trying to scale back my reading, so I don’t have time for these “issues”.
With this, I don’t even to try to hunt down how women are collectively ruining things. I have my own stuff to attend to.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I agree that it’s knowledge of women that’s the problem. I still have interest, I just don’t see how I could have a long term relationship with one knowing what I know. I don’t see any women that make sense for me.
I am bothered by the fact that I don’t trust any woman to marriage, and I’d like that to change, but it’s not on me to do so. I can accept some risk, but since said risk will impact me financially, and thus my kids, it is an incredibly stupid risk.
As for the ‘issues’ slogan, it’s self deprecating humor. To me it’s the same as if a cop wore a shirt with a picture of a donut on it. Women are aware of their emotional lunacy, they just expect men to understand and deal with it, and feel that they are still worth the price of admission. So fine, have a little fun with yourself. I don’t care either way.
Ok. Then do it.

Anonymous3It’s a combination of a few things.
One is definitely of course the misandric society we live in that seeks to constantly devalue and outright destroy men. The only way to protect yourself is to avoid women. That’s not a bad choice of action.
Connected to that is the fact that women will emasculate a man. In the past a man could step up and keep a women in line with his natural masculinity, but now most of that is illegal, so forget it.
Another major thing, which is absolutely hilarious and clearly something the Cultural Marxists hadn’t realized because they fail at basic biology, is that a man’s hormones drop off in their 30s. 32-33 seems to be exact. At that point the haze is lifted. From puberty until that time, biology destroys a man’s rationale and reason, he is highly susceptible both visually and through pheromones and peer pressure to women’s influence. He will literally run off to protect women’s interests with a high chance of death or getting an arm and a leg blown off. He simply can’t think straight. After that time, hah, forget it. It’s illogical. Now if a man already has a bond, maybe some children with a woman, he’ll stick with it. But if he doesn’t have it by then? Hah again. You’re not going to get him to the table now.
Another is that modern women simply are not attractive. They’ve thrown away feminity and tried to push their version of what they think is attractive onto men. So they’ll get tattoos, drink, be promiscuous, get degrees and credentials, point to their careers and all of that, when the only think men actually care about is youth, thinness, fertility, chastity and loyalty. Loyalty encompasses soft words and a kind heart. It’s laughable that women think they can throw away their best years and degrade themselves, and somehow that will not have an effect on the “good” men.
Yes society would have you believe all men are moronic simps that have no choice in the matter. That all it has to do is tell men they should be desperate and it works. That shaming works. Well the problem with that is…the so called “good” men get to call the shots, and men never needed women. Men can have standards too, and in fact when you create this environment, the men with standards will opt out because most of the women are degraded below those standards. The standards are easy too as I listed above.
Also add the fact of deception by women, intelligent men can read women and know that deception. So when most women decline to the current state, a man just protects himself by realizing AWALT. It’s really “nearly” all, NAWALT, but for all intents and purposes it’s AWALT. There’s no reason to play the lottery either because the odds are so low, and that is modern women now, so why bother?
Those are some of my reasons. A lot of that is backed up also by my faith. But faith covers so much of that. Religion is a wonderful thing, turns out God knows mankind and how to build a functioning society. No surprise to me, but I digress there, especially since I’m new here, I don’t want to proselytize :p.
Epic video RoyDal. Young women proudly advertise they have “More issues than Vogue”. You don’t say….
watched White Chicks for the first time last night (funny film) and reminds me of that scene where that brunette is almost having a breakdown in the changing room over her body and “fat”. Is so true how women view themselves a so judge others on their warped view of themselves
I’m not afraid of women; I’m afraid of what men under the influence of women will do. Cops, politicians, violent white knights…who needs it?
I’ve kind of moved to the point now, though, where none of them interest me on any level besides physical. They’re s~~~ for conversation, they don’t ever plan out the activities/dates and they don’t ever do anything by themselves. Why would I want that?
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