Debate Topic #2. Fear of women or Lack of Interest?

[Anonymous 0]

@Zuberi Tau  i feel you man im 18 and im the same

most guys my age be chasing girls and failing their education and s~~~…

[GrumpyParticipant]

Fear of women? No. She can woman up, Man down, or f~~~ off.

Fear of the total destruction of my way of life, enforced by government agencies, on the whim of a woman. Most definitely.

Lack of Interest?  Most definitely. I grew tired of  the games almost 30 years ago, I go by ask a straight question – get a straight answer. Most women I have met can not or will not be honest and direct. In MY world a woman flicking/playing with her hair isn’t flirting. It means she’s playing with her f~~~ing hair. You want my interest? Ask for it. Games like that are for kids

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Lately I’ve been talking to women like I talk to annoying salesmen
I am not interested

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Zuberi Tau wrote:

Lack of interest. There’s much more to life than chasing tail. I understood this at age 17.

Same for me, I’d rather sit on my bed reading a good book and actually learn somehing useful rather than hear some wymyn’s stupid babbling. Sorry honey, but Camus DOES have more interesting things than you do!

For Maslow hierarchy, it’s funny, because of you go in the “love” part,nowadays, the whole financial and personal stability, and also the self-esteem part are nearly bound to get nagged out of your life on a wymyn’s whim.

And I like the tiny (hella tiny, maybe even close to 0%?) part of really strong independant women in this population. Because unlike most chicks, they actually take responsiblity for themselves, unlike most t~~~s who will just bitch and moan untill daddy or the hubby gives them what they want.

What annoys me is the so-called strong wymyn who couldn’t make it through life in they weren’t born with a vagina and then shove what they dare call accomplishments in everyone’s faces.

I’m not scared of them, I just have better things to do..

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[LunaticReasonParticipant 78]

I would say its disinterest for me mostly I have no problems interacting with women in general on a daily basis and I’ve never had to deal with the things mentioned although I’m aware of these problems associated with dealing with the opposite sex.  I personally had the epiphany that I’ll never find that unicorn.  I’ve always been a bit of Beta male and I wanted to find someone who cared for who I am and not what my LMS was and I have absolutely no interest in becoming that idea person that attracts women because deep down they’ll wanna jump to that next guy who has more. I know because I had that girlfriend and I don’t see any other girl being any different especially with how society is currently developing.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

More issues than Vogue…

And to think just last week, I was day dreaming about how nice it would be if we could somehow tattoo ‘crazy’ on the foreheads of some of these girls  so that other men down the line could recognize them for what they are.  I assumed that there was no way it was ever going to be THAT easy to mark them.  And yet, here it is – a clearly marked sign indicating (at least some of) the crazy ones.  Not only is it as obvious as a tattoo, it’s voluntarily and proudly displayed.  How much easier can they make it to explain why they should be avoided?

As far as I’m concerned, any man taken in and damaged by a woman who wears a sign somewhere on her person that actually says, “More issues than Vogue” is not a victim, he’s a volunteer.  As for the women: I already knew this about you, but very considerate of you to warn the less experienced men out there.

I only wish we could have similar signs on crappy cars, crappy food etc to warn us before we buy into any low quality versions of those things either…  In a better world, a marriage contract would have a warning label in large, bold, coast guard orange print explaining the consequences of signing it.

As for fear vs lack of interest.  I do not fear ropes, but I am not going to wrap one around my neck, tie the other end to a bridge and then jump.  There are some limited uses for ropes around my house, but I have zero interest in using one that way.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I’m not afraid of women. Despite the propaganda everywhere that women are ass kickers, they remain frail and delicate creatures prone to hysterical mood swings once a month.

It is the army of SWAT teams our lovely young flowers of our hearts have hired so when they kick you out of your own home a paramilitary squad is there should you protest that you are being thrown out of your own home and onto the street with the payment on the house still in your name.

Here is a very dangerous looking man alone in a trailer park without even a shirt. A clear cut case for our military police, SWAT, to rush to the rescue.

And here they are if she tells them you hit her:

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[BONEParticipant 448]

The only thing I fear about women is what can legally happen when you get involved with one, thing is women barely gave me the time of the day so I never had anything to fear anyway. I think the fear actually comes from a lack of interest in women, we fear the feeling of disinterest because “we’re supposed to love wimmenz!!” and nobody ever told us we don’t have to spend our whole lives chasing pussy. I always wondered why I was so awkward around women in high school, I don’t think it was actually a fear of women in of itself but a fear of feeling disinterested; after all, we’re constantly being told that we have to chase the holy vagina 24/7 when a lot of men just aren’t interested then these good for nothing bitches wanna pull the “fear” shaming tactic, f~~~ that.

[TheReaperParticipant 27]

Disinterest,

Woman have made themselves almost completely worthless now and I have zero interest in supporting a dependent for the basis of the occasional lay

I have very little spare time which I enjoy spending pursuing my interests (fishing, kayaking, keeping myself in shape for my own benefit), and I have exactly no desire to spend a minute or a single penny in entertaining a parasite

 

Im trying hard not to be openly hostile toward women (in attitude that is, I am of course not violent to either man or woman), but some of the s~~~ some of my colleauges come out with regarding men do have me biting my tongue…..they have also begun to ask me if i am gay, to which I give no answer (I’m not, but neither am i interested in women), so far this is driving them to legitimate anger as I refuse to answer them, its rather amusing 🙂

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

If you see a piece of dog s~~~ on the street, and you are not interested in picking it up, talking to it or playing with it, are you AFRAID of it? Not remotely. You are simply NOT INTERESTED.

The streets in Massachusetts are all covered in the proverbial dog s~~~!

I’m not only not interested, but I’m always trying to avoid stepping in all the s~~~! It’s a dog kennel around here! Woof Woof!

[BDParticipant 1146]

Not fear, I accept that they are sociopathic, , violent, money obsessed narcissists. Sometimes they try to hide it, but it eventually comes to light.

Cost/benefit man-alysis. I have zero drama in my life without women, it is so peaceful. More money, better health, and no wasted energy.

Social prostitution is no longer part of my life. <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>If I have to pay for someone to spend time with me, then I just hire a professional.</span>

Definitely lack of interest. Life is like being a child again, hanging out with the boys, doing exactly what you want, zero bitching.

My self esteem has never been higher, everything I do is correct. It’s amazing how a person feels when they don’t have another person nagging , mindlessly criticizing them, or trying to kill their dreams.

 

 

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[Anonymous 11]

“More issues than Vogue” reminds me of why rattlesnakes have rattles. I’m sure it’s quite effective White Knight bait.

As to the topic, I don’t fear women. I only dread the drama and chaos they bring into my life. I’m really not interested in any of them either as they offer me nothing but unlimited risk with zero reward.

[lukeylalaParticipant 56]

Bit of both. Most women don’t interest me, however the ones that do I honestly have no idea how to ask out(and who knows what they would be like in a relationship).

I’ve had nothing but bad experiences with women which has made it hard for me to talk to them 1 on 1, since most girls expect YOU to do most of the talking. At times I get incredibly frustrated(Mentally and sexually), all I want sometimes is to feel a womans touch.

[нσтησσвParticipant 830]

Women today are just such c~~~s.

It’s hard to say which is worse, because these c~~~s compose the society today.

I don’t think there is any remote amount of “fear of women”
Nor do i think its any “Lack of Interest;” To become MGTOW in the first place, you have to have enough interest to notice that women are such c~~~s.

Women are just c~~~s… that is the sole reason for it…

But no women will ever write an article saying, “Hey ladies! We are huge f~~~ing c~~~s! That’s why men don’t want us”
Instead they need to revert to their c~~~ like nature, avoid responsibility, and blame it on men saying that its our fault.

My Goal: To Leave Society.

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

Regarding the OP’s question I would mostly agree with clint england and additionally say that it’s a bit of both but as for myself quite a bit more of the latter (lack of interest) or if you want to put it as a natural MGTOW response to RoyDal’s link to the great video:

“Issues…? Well, as a MGHOW less f~~~s given about any of those than about any person stupid enough to desperately try to sell a glass of fresh water for one dollar to a waterworks plant…”

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

I definitely do not have a fear of women. I have come to realize that a pocket pussy and a crockpot do everything I need from a woman so I no longer waste my time and money pursuing them for anything more than sex.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

It’s always been a much larger investment and sacrifice for men to pursue women, and it’s been this way since the beginning. When a female wants to have a baby she advertises her pussy and the guy who has busted his tail the hardest to acquire her usually becomes the one that knocks her up. Then he is stuck continuing to bust his tail to ensure his mate and child are taken care of.

The question is, what the hell are you exactly giving up ladies?? Other than being able to f~~~ as many different guys as you want. Boo hoo you have to carry a baby for nine months and be a responsible adult until you can ship your son or daughter off to daycare and resume your selfish, narcissistic behavior, only this time spending another person’s money.

We don’t fear you, we fear the possibility of sacrificing our personal liberty to drag a ball and chain around with us.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Fear of women or Lack of Interest?

Neither.

It’s knowledge of women. That is all.

[ironheartParticipant 953]

sidecar wrote:

Fear of women or Lack of Interest?

Neither.

It’s knowledge of women. That is all.

That about sums it up.

I remember thirty years ago when I worked in a strip joint, surrounded by women of all kinds. The 24/7 nudity of that environment really changes how you relate to women. If you are any bit human you relate to women in conversation as humans, and not the pair of T&A that most strippers these days carry on with. I was never afraid of women, but I saw a lot of guys who also worked there as bouncers and bartenders who were. They were all obsessed with getting some pussy every night, and that made them act and think stupid. You got to get inside the women’s heads and figure out what makes the predators tick, versus the ones that just saw it all as work. I could have written a book on true women’s thought processes back then, and would have likely been hauled in front of some feminist hate meetup to answer for telling all the real secrets of them. I laugh at it now, because everything I figured out was right. Not much has changed when it comes to the younger females, expect that the younger ones are blatant about what users they are.

Young women now are just plain stupid. They are brainwashed from teen years to act like and seek out whore behaviors. Small wonder you cannot find one with sensible and logical views on life, because the woman propaganda machine is in full gear churning out and programming women to be stupid. The hateful and evil part comes afterwards. That they get from spending a lifetime of being told hating men is normal. They make their own anger, and then think themselves justified in enforcing it.

But watching those human interactions in that strip joint, as an outsider not interested in those that flaunted it all, you learn s~~~ about humans on levels that no other person typically does in day to day living. In fact if you have sons I recommend you get them a job in a strip joint. It clears up a lot of thoughts and BS about being shy around women. You see them in their birthday suits for all the shallow BS they can put out there. But it lets you see the ones that are not BS for what a real woman can be too. It is why I say there are some women who are not choking on their own ego. But they are so dam rare now that searching for them is like a lottery ticket. The odds for the lottery ticket are somewhat better. You can find a sensible one, but good luck finding one that has zero BS in their behavior or outlook on life. It all comes down to if that BS women harbour is safe to stomach, or better you walk away fast.

I guess from that I became MGTOW or a Red Pill advocate all of my life. Now reading blogs like the Rationale Man and other sites devoted to Men’s Rights like this one, I see clearly that I was right the whole time. Spent a life of thinking I was the lost outsider. Now I see I was 100% right the whole time. I finally feel like I walk amongst brothers after thirty years. All that knowledge we all experienced separately, but now we can safely say we are truly right, and that women really are the fault of why our world fails.

The Red Pill practice of self-preservation of the soul is neither Fear or Lack of Interest. It is just a simple case of no longer tolerating the heaping piles of bull that the world wants us to wallow in.

Thank god for sites that let men talk like men, and learn from each other. The majority of womenz have nothing to bring to the table when it comes to healthy spiritual living. The few that do are living on the female version of the Red Pill. If you find one, be thankful. But if you live alone, do not be sad. No wisdom comes without sadness. No Enlightenment comes without loss.

When you read these sites and realize the greatest truth, is that we are no longer alone. That part rocks. 🙂

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Lol this is crazy and hilarious. WOMEN ARE ACTUALLY PROUD TO BE LUNATICS!!! I am literally crunching on red pills. This is too much, I’m laughing. Must spread the word.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

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