Creating Life

[Anonymous 1]

My premise is simple:

“If you love life, why not pass on that opportunity to another.”

After digesting fists full of red pill. Past rage, and acceptance, and on to prospering in my own life.

At 31, I don’t want to let the opportunity go by to bring life into this world while still being young enough to fully take on the challenge.

My options are limited I understand as a MGTOW, but has anyone in the manosphere wrestled with these thoughts?

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

I think this desire is more of a social construct than a male biological need. For a woman – she’ll do whatever she needs to perpetuate the human race – its hard wired in her brain. This is why younger women seek alpha men – they are seen as more likely to sire healthy offspring and to protect her and the child.

As men – we are protectors and creators too – but unlike women – society has torn at our value by creating laws that work against our nature. Simply put – we are in unprecedented times so you put yourself at enormous risk by creating a child.

I say this as an older man who has a child nearly your age. But I saw first hand how much that child was ever really mine. He belonged to her and the state. My role according to the laws was to ejaculate in his mother’s vagina and after his birth – support him. However – she was one of the few good women out there and was very supportive of my role in his life. You will be hard pressed to find that today judging by the current crop of millennial trash. Only you can decide – but proceed with extreme caution!

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Im 33 years old, if I knew about this world, and they asked me, I wold without any doubt, choose to not be born into this s~~~ hole.

Because I love life, I will not bring a child over to this crazy world wich I can’t fix

I can’t give a future human been a guarantee of a adecuated life.

If you bring a life to this world, Is your responsibility to change the world to a better place. Do you wanna take that over your shoulder?

If you don’t take on that, you are not bringing life, you are bringing despair, like many assholes did before.

That’s why we have 7500 million people.

Just my view as a son, I’m grateful to my mother, not becouse what she did for me (I’m entitled to that, even animals take care of their keen) but because she took another bourden on her shoulders imposed by me, and for that I’m in debt.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Anonymous 42]

Pass on life at the expense of your own extended misery?

Women now own life! They decide weather or not it lives or dies including your life as they have collectively exterminated any choice you have in any and all matters reguarding their will and desire, you’re at their mercy of which they have overwhelmingly proven beyond a reasonable doubt they are entirely void of.

You’re tying the yoke straps to your own slavery and demise.

You could get called c~~~ coming here and talking about CREATING LIFE.

More like creating a living sacrifice for the atrocities yet to come!

You need a woman to cradle life and from what I can tell all the boughs are broken and the cradles have become caskets!

Let them turn to the government they so adore for all their insemination needs, wants, or extermination desires!

Stay away from the s~~~ vortex entirely!

or

SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES!

[narwhalParticipant]

I somewhat agree with Truthseeker, or maybe I just think of it in a slightly different way. I don’t think any man really thinks about creating life during sex. What we do think about is leading, training, and protecting others. That’s really what being a father is.

As already pointed out, the current state makes that very difficult for a man to do. I cannot do these things when the state says that my children can’t be with me when I wish them to. It’s more difficult for me to express how I feel about them when the state doesn’t allow me to make decisions on their behalf or even pay for expenses for them as I wish. So much of it is out of my control.

And I think men care beyond their kids. It’s why we end up being white knights. It’s ingrained in us. It’s why men serve in military and other positions where they put themselves at risk. It’s why we coach sports. But we are used for our utility without given what we crave, the free will to love and care for others, particularly our own children.

When I was married, I had a step son. I cared for him like he was one of my own, but it always had to be tempered because I had very little say over how he was raised. He had his real father, and his mother could always use him as a wedge against me. Today, I rarely see him and can’t say I have that much concern for him, as he is completely out of my control, or realm of influence. All that said though, I think a man would completely love a adopted child, the same as his own, if he is give the tools and freedom to do so.

In that regard, I can see a future where men are allowed to have children artificially, without a woman having any rights to the child and doing an absolutely splendid job.

Ok. Then do it.

[MonkParticipant 17047]

Anonymous wrote:

My premise is simple: “If you love life, why not pass on that opportunity to another.”

Being forcibly delivered into the hands of a rigged system doesn’t look like much of an opportunity to me.

At 31, I don’t want to let the opportunity go by to bring life into this world while still being young enough to fully take on the challenge.

This is ego and lust, not rational thought.

My options are limited I understand as a MGTOW, but has anyone in the manosphere wrestled with these thoughts?

No. The only way to win is not to play.

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

Anonymous wrote:

My premise is simple:

“If you love life, why not pass on that opportunity to another.”

After digesting fists full of red pill. Past rage, and acceptance, and on to prospering in my own life.

At 31, I don’t want to let the opportunity go by to bring life into this world while still being young enough to fully take on the challenge.

My options are limited I understand as a MGTOW, but has anyone in the manosphere wrestled with these thoughts?

I refuse to bring life into a world where I cannot be the one to raise that life, teach it and be a part of the growing and maturing. As of right now, it is nearly guaranteed that you will not get this, and you will be only a sperm donor. Because of this, I give up on being a dad again.

[Anonymous 43]

I created one child by accident to a woman I was going to break up with, married her and made another child through coercion. I loved my children deeply, right up until they told me to f~~~ off.

I regret making children. I wish I never met th c~~~. wtf was I doing with a woman in my life. I should have focused on my school work.

totally not worth it, not worth being trapped by unwanted pregnancy, not worth the pain of being betrayed by the woman in divorce, not worth being told to go away by children, not worth the loss of home and money. stay the f~~~ away from women.

what ever temporary pleasure can be gained by being with a woman is offset by the day to day unpleasantness of the s~~~ vortex.

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

“If you love life, why not pass on that opportunity to another.”

Anonymous wrote:

At 31, I don’t want to let the opportunity go by to bring life into this world while still being young enough to fully take on the challenge.

Hi Rocky! To be honest I really don’t know what to say, I have read everything from your posts since February, (everything you ever wrote on here) including the fact that keymaster made you “MGHOW of the Day” on the homepage so this leaves me perplexed!

Women sounds like you at 30 years old for the most part! you sound like a tomboy to me but keymaster must know something that I don’t know? why want to pass on life at 30? you can do it as a man until you practically die!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Well he answered that macho. At 30 you are still strong to take care of a child. Is hard to follow around a kid when you are 70

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MACHOParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

Well he answered that macho. At 30 you are still strong to take care of a child. Is hard to follow around a kid when you are 70

That doesn’t compute my friend, I’m 57 and still don’t believe this! I would have given a child to my Russian lover in my fifties! a man doesn’t worry about that at 30!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

If you don’t trust women and want a child.

Save you money and have one by surrogate.

I have three sons. None of which were a result of my willing decision. In other words, I was young and stupid enough to trust the pussy.

I love all of them, but if you could wind back the clock, and knowing what I know now, the likelihood of my sons even existing is very, very, very low.

I would be wealthier and have had less heartache in my life.

By the way. We all die alone.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[xlrsnbrgParticipant 1786]

I’ve never felt the need to have a child.

A man shouldn't make his life's objective to be on the side of the majority, but to avoid finding himself in the ranks of the insane. (Marcus Aurelius)

[MACHOParticipant]

Rocky besides the fact that keymaster made you “MGHOW of the Day” on the homepage in February when you did your intro, I have my doubts about you sorry! maybe as you keep on posting .. So keep on posting Rocky!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

MACHO wrote:

Carnage wrote:

Well he answered that macho. At 30 you are still strong to take care of a child. Is hard to follow around a kid when you are 70

That doesn’t compute my friend, I’m 57 and still don’t believe this! I would have given a child to my Russian lover in my fifties! a man doesn’t worry about that at 30!

Well my grandfather had a kid when he was 74.
He had 23 sons and daughters. I have an uncle 10 years my junior.

Yeah wtf?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MACHOParticipant]

Carnage wrote:

Well my grandfather had a kid when he was 74.
He had 23 sons and daughters. I have an uncle 10 years my junior.
Yeah wtf?

Thank you Carnage, if it wasn’t of that MGHOW of the day I would have pressed the button and called Tuna! 🐟 But we will see! I’m a Very patient Man.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Anonymous 42]

Carnage wrote:

At 30 you are still strong to take care of a child. Is hard to follow around a kid when you are 70

What’s the difference? These days at 70 you’re stuck with f~~~up boomerang children and grandchildren that can’t wipe their own asses thanks to the “advancement” of women!
Who needs a flock of looser leaches @70? Best to empty the whole pail of s~~~ than try to live with any of it stinking up your life!

There’s reasons the entire system is failing and the answers and solutions are NOT WITHIN OUR POWER!

That POWER was stolen in the midnight robbery otherwise known as feminism and gynocentrism.

I’m GLAD CHIVALRY IS DEAD! They don’t deserve it! Let the door hit them in the ass or the face, either way I don’t care!

[TwistParticipant]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

you put yourself at enormous risk by creating a child.

This can’t be stated often enough. The risk of financial and emotional devastation through no fault of your own is huge.

The days my daughters were born were the happiest of my life.

I would have NEVER gone that route knowing what I know now.

[Anonymous 5]

No bastards for me!

[Anonymous 3]

First you dont create life, the same way you dont create a computer when you plug it to power.

Sex is like that computer, you plug a mail plug to a female socket, and that is enough. The rest is automatic.

There is no intelligence or work required to make a child.

However, once that child come to this world, it is your responsibility to provide and educate her.

And that is when women have the upper hand, as they can leave anytime, taking the kid and all your resources, present and future.

You then have no more interaction with that child (there goes the education), and you provide for THE PARASITE that WILL raise your child to hate you and be a failure.

If you have love in your heart, you will get only a hole in the end.

The greatest warning I can give is this: responsibility without rights is a fraud. It is exploration.

And what right do you have over your kids?

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