Confused, slightly scared, need advice!

[Anonymous 4]

Here’s the deal. 10 months away she is going to cheat on you. You do not need to go out to a bar to pick someone up. A few clicks online or a couple swipes on Tinder and BOOM…It’s easier for women. Look man…We’re all or have been where you are. Trust us. It’s over. I have stayed with hot women before I was married even after I knew it would end just to ride out the pussy till the end:) Why not? I was young and we weren’t married. You know it’s over dude. Seriously..Before it gets any further along and before you REALLY F~~~ UP and impregnate her GO….

10 months away is the perfect time for you to fade away and NEVER return. Take all your stuff and GO.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Yep time to leave my friend.  The signs are there she is starting to turn.  Don’t put yourself through the torture that is coming.  Don’t make the same mistakes a lot of us did.  Trust your gut, because it’s right.  Leave, don’t look back and don’t feel bad.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

Timex. You’re young and you don’t have kids, and you haven’t been married for very long.

DIVORCE NOW. A LITTLE PAIN NOW WILL AVOID A LOT OF PAIN IN THE FUTURE WHEN SHE DIVORCES YOU.

Divorcing now you avoid

Greater Financial Destruction via Child Support, Alimony and Division of Community Property.

You also avoid her getting access to your retirement and social security.

DIVORCE NOW!!!

EJECT!!!

Women view Sex as a Tool for Controlling a Man. Yes, women want sex too…even though they can go without it for a very long time. The decision to have or not to have sex almost always is up to the woman. IF a woman is not putting out, I guarantee you she is BLAMING YOU for the lack of sex, and is telling all kinds of things to her female friends and family about YOU.

Here’s the pattern.

a.) you meet a girl, start having all kinds of great sex. This sex is known as Qualification Sex, she’s ONLY doing it to convince you emotionally that she is the ONE, and that you will eventually propose. If you are slow on proposing she will start dropping hints.

b.) You get married and the sex starts to taper off (you are HERE). This is done, because she is now trying to control you. So she rations it, as sex becomes less frequent, it becomes more valuable and hence more desirable on your part.

c.) She gets pregnant has a baby and quits her Job (This is what is going to happen to you NEXT). She may or may not trick you into getting her pregnant. At this point she has you: because in any divorce she can get child support, and in 90% of all custody cases, the woman invariably gets full physical custody according to the Census Bureau.

d.) Long term marriage = Life Time Alimony in many States. If your marriage has gone past a certain number of years (in California it’s 10 years) she can hit you up for life time Alimony. At this point you are screwed for life.

Because many states have no fault divorce (like CA), she can screw the postman either behind your back or with your full knowledge and there is nothing you can do about it, because in a divorce court she will be awarded your hard earned money.

DIVORCE NOW! And NEVER get married again.

IF you want to have kids save up about 100K, and go to a business like Donor Source and buy an egg from a female donor and do IVF and get a Surrogate Mother who will bring the child to term. And while 100K sounds like a lot (and it is) it’s NOTHING compared to child support, Alimony and division of community property, and access to your retirement and social security.

[TimexParticipant 9]

Hey guys, I know it’s been a while (3+ months to be exact), but I felt like I needed time to digest everything, let things play out, and live a few months alone without too much MGTOW influence….

I had an epiphany over the weekend that I think you’ll all enjoy….

It was Saturday night, I had worked most of the day and was enjoying a jack and coke while watching some of the late football games. My wife was at one of her client’s Christmas party and called me on her way home. She was a wreck. Telling me she’s tired of me not being there for events like that, bitching about how she doesn’t trust my career and thinks I’ll change courses when I find out I’m not happy with my decisions, reiterated how my choices are delaying the time it will take for us to have kids….blah blah blah.

After I sat back and answered with several “okay…uh huh….yup….sure” type answers, we got off the phone, she was waaayyyyy worked up. But, me on the other hand, I wasn’t p~~~ed off one bit. It was the weirdest feeling. I almost had a sense of relief, like she had just made my decision so crystal clear for me. She drove home the proverbial final nail in the coffin with a 60 f~~~ing pound sledge hammer. I almost became excited!

Fast forward to today, I talk to her on my way home from work, and she decides to flip the script with the “yeah….ok….” blah blah type responses to me, as I’m trying to initiate conversation. I knew something was bothering her, and I didn’t want to ask because I knew it would stir up a s~~~ storm, so I didn’t push it any further. We hung up about as expected, she was p~~~ed about something and I never got to the bottom of it. Oh well. She continued to text me “I love you” and “I’m proud of you” and such for a couple hours up until a few minutes ago. Yeah….whatever you say….

I just took a shower to end my day, and I spent about 20 minutes just standing there with full clarity (no homo..). The thought that really sunk in to me, which is something that would have REALLY p~~~ed me the hell off up until about 4-5 months ago, was “what if she’s with somebody else right now”. At this point, I can honestly say I could give a s~~~ less if she’s sleeping with somebody else or even in a relations~~~ with somebody else at this point. After 3 months of being my own man, I realize that my freedom is so f~~~ing precious that I wouldn’t want to trade it in for anything, or anyone (especially during football season….helllllll NO!!!)

During this time, I’ve also been researching how to go about divorcing in my state. It seems that in order to go the uncontested route, which is by far the easiest, least expensive, and far less of a pain in the ass for all parties involved, we need to have not been living together for the last 6 months to move forward. I’m now at 3 months and some change. The end of January is the golden time my friends!!!!

Until then, I’m going to have to find a way to deal with her bitching and complaining, but that ever-growing light at the end of the tunnel is more than enough for me to suck it up and make this plan come to fruition.

Side note: I’m going home for a week over the holidays. The plane tickets and vacation time were put in well in advance. Oh well. I’ve already invited my parents to town for a majority of it, and the wife is actually planning on having a minor surgery done while I’m home, which should decrease the time interacting for a few days at least. MORE VICODIN HONEY????

I feel like I’m in a really great place guys. While I may not be as hardcore MGTOW as a few of you, I definitely feel the necessity of being my own person, with my own agenda, goals, needs, wants, etc. I know what I want, I want this so badly right now, and nothing is going to stop me.

Thank you all again for your input and advice. I’ll stick around and contribute more on the forums now that I have a plan in place and can see the light.

Cheers!

[BDParticipant 1146]

Not sure why you are even still with her, what’s your holdup?

Develop your fake gambling and alcohol addiction as soon as possible because you realized your marriage is doomed and the stress is driving you towards addictive self destructive behaviors,

Hide all of the money you pretend to drink and gamble away, leave some evidence on visa bills/interact at casinos and liquor stores, heck buy the booze, take out the money, and leave it at your friend’s place, and stockpile it for the divorce party celebration you;re going to have.

Join alcoholic’s anonymous and gambler’s anonymous to add to the credibility. Study up the symptoms and behaviors so you can play the part well.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/

I do not believe this site is a marriage counselling site, so become a man of action and join the men chasing their dreams instead of living in your fears. You’re wasting too much of your life and energy on her. Your time in life is limited, why waste it on her?

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[MalfunctionNeedInputParticipant 257]

Timex wrote:

I realize that my freedom is so f~~~ing precious that I wouldn’t want to trade it in for anything, or anyone

Good on you man…just remember if you’re going to stick around with her like that, remember that she is the enemy and if the enemy gets wind of what you’re planning get ready for some spy s~~~…As someone else said, guard your sperm like Fort Knox…Guard your money and protect everything personal to you as you don’t know how far she may go if she’s in an emotional rage and seeing her chances of a happy life for her and children you should have provided go down the toilet.

Be wary, be vigilant. Don’t ever assume, “she’s not like other women, she’s different.”

The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. --Einstein

[RennieParticipant]

MalfunctionNeedInput wrote:

As someone else said, guard your sperm like Fort Knox…

Also watch out for t~~~’s flying planes and led by a woman named “Pussy Galore”.

[BeeParticipant 700]

My suggestion to you is if you think you want out, do it now. Because you have no children, it is as easy as it will ever be. It does not get easier (or marriage get better) with time.

[TimexParticipant 9]

BD wrote:

Not sure why you are even still with her, what’s your holdup?

Develop your fake gambling and alcohol addiction as soon as possible because you realized your marriage is doomed and the stress is driving you towards addictive self destructive behaviors,

Hide all of the money you pretend to drink and gamble away, leave some evidence on visa bills/interact at casinos and liquor stores, heck buy the booze, take out the money, and leave it at your friend’s place, and stockpile it for the divorce party celebration you;re going to have.

Join alcoholic’s anonymous and gambler’s anonymous to add to the credibility. Study up the symptoms and behaviors so you can play the part well.

http://www.gamblersanonymous.org/ga/

I do not believe this site is a marriage counselling site, so become a man of action and join the men chasing their dreams instead of living in your fears. You’re wasting too much of your life and energy on her. Your time in life is limited, why waste it on her?

Like I said in my last post, 6 months apart in order to file uncontested divorce in my state. I’m not going to follow your advice…..sorry I’m not sorry?

Bee wrote:

My suggestion to you is if you think you want out, do it now. Because you have no children, it is as easy as it will ever be. It does not get easier (or marriage get better) with time.

That’s the plan, my friend!

As I stated above, I have about 2 more months before I can file per the rules of my state.

And for those who are saying “good luck getting an uncontested divorce, she’ll want to get you for something”. Yeah, I had those thoughts too, and I’ve thought hard about it. As I said in my initial post, we do own a house together that has gone up in value (presumably) after all the renovations that we’ve (ahem…I’VE) done. In all honesty, I could give zero flying f~~~s about that house or the value of it. If, in return, we/she can agree to make this a simple, relatively inexpensive cutting of the ties, she can have the f~~~ing place and sell it for 4x more than we bought it for all I care. The house will essentially be my golden ticket. I’m basically going to forego my interest in it for a clean break. No f~~~s given. Freedom is on the horizon and I can taste it. That is worth FAR more than any dollar amount after the sale of a house at this point.

In the mean time, I’m trying to remove myself as much as possible while still staying off of the radar when it comes to my plans. I’ve already checked out of the relations~~~ mentally, just going through the daily relations~~~ routine as a zombie at this point.

I can already see my days without having to deal with the random calls/texts, and perhaps most importantly, I can see my finances start to take a hard right turn for the better. She f~~~ing blows my mind when it comes to her spending habits, no matter how much I bag on her about maintaining a budget. God that f~~~ing p~~~es me off. F~~~ing women are so f~~~ing retarded with money. F~~~!

I’ve honestly been so excited it’s hard for me to fall asleep at night due to daydreaming about my future.

I can’t thank you all enough. This has been a truly eye opening experience over the last few months.

As for now, I’ve been watching football all day with a whiskey and coke by my side after hitting the gym hard this morning. Not a f~~~ing complaint in the world. That being said, I think I did okay, but excuse any grammar or “making sense” errors that may have preceded this paragraph. I’m sure you’ll understand 🙂

I’ll keep checking back here, looking forward to what ya’ll have to say!

[BubParticipant 1415]

If you go ” home” for the holiday does that break your 6 month separation timeline? Since you will be staying in your marital home, with your wife and family?

What are your plans after cutting her loose? Are you looking for the next one or are you red pill now? Are you truly going your own way or do you think the next one will be the unicorn?
(You may have explained that along the way somewhere and I just missed it)

Just rolling down the road

[TimexParticipant 9]

Bub wrote:

If you go ” home” for the holiday does that break your 6 month separation timeline? Since you will be staying in your marital home, with your wife and family?

What are your plans after cutting her loose? Are you looking for the next one or are you red pill now? Are you truly going your own way or do you think the next one will be the unicorn?
(You may have explained that along the way somewhere and I just missed it)

From what I’ve read (which is a lot by now), you can actually claim “separation” even if you’re sleeping in separate rooms, no longer share finances, etc even if you’re still under the same roof. Sounds like some kind of legal loophole, I’m still working on getting clarification, but I don’t think a 10 day visit in my old stomping grounds will derail me.

It’s also worth noting that when I’m “home” I’ll be visiting a lot of family, so the time at my current home will be minimal. Probably 1-2 days max.

My plans after I’m free, are to stay free. Plain and simple. No more anchors weighing me down. I have too many goals I need to achieve in my life and can’t have anybody besides myself as a factor in them. I plan to get a vasectomy so there’s no oopsie-baby possibility.

[OldBillParticipant]

Your priorities are set and you’ve got a great plan in place, Timex. You’re definitely taking the steps and making the choices that will bring you happiness.

I hope the prospect of gaining the house will make you soon-to-be ex more amenable to a uncontested divorce.

Please do keep us updated on your progress and may 2016 be as wonderful a year as you hope!

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[WolfParticipant 890]

@timex: you have to go with your gut on this. If you feel it isn’t right for you, then it likely isn’t. You’re not the first man to ignore his gut and delay the inevitable. Problem with this: the longer you delay, the worst it will be.

Yes, you think she’s a good person. Perhaps she is. Here’s the problem: most men think that about the woman they marry in the early stages. A lot of men don’t realize what a toxic bitch she is until they step on a land mine and get their leg blown off.

In regard to children, this is a definite reason to get out! If she wants kids in 1-3 years, then it will happen. She will trick you. This doesn’t necessarily mean she’s evil; rather, this is what she wants and her selfish nature will think that it’s good for you and your relationship together.

You’ve been married twice before 30, so you likely value marriage. Do yourself a favor and stop getting married. Marriage is not designed for you. It’s for her. It’s all about her. Think about it…

[TimexParticipant 9]

What’s up fellas?!?!

Been a few weeks so I came to post a little update for ya’ll.

It’s been a lot of the same bulls~~~. She’s bitching a lot and I’m just rolling with the punches. My god, that light at the end of the tunnel is getting so close I can f~~~ing taste it!

We had a pretty big battle the other day. I proposed a budget a while back after I couldn’t handle her being such a spoiled immature little bitch (joint bank account…f~~~ing stupid…I know). She actually did okay with it for a while, things were going smoothly, but holy hell she fell off a cliff. Long story short, I put my foot down the other day and told her I’m going to transfer in enough to cover our basic expenses (utilities, housing, taxes, insurance) and she can do whatever the f~~~ else she wants with her money, as I’ll be happily doing the same. She resisted, of course, which makes absolutely no sense to me since she makes more money than I do at this point in time, so it should actually benefit her more, right!?!?! Apparently not. Whatever. I just chalk it up to woman logic at this point. There is literally no way she doesn’t “win” in this situation. She’ll just have to learn the hard way I guess, f~~~ing moron.

So, I’m going to pad my savings and pay off some debt for the next few months, starting with my next paycheck on Friday. Should be interesting when she doesn’t see the transfer from my end coming in to the joint account since I already met my half of the bills for the month. I can just see how it’s going to go now. Oh well, I’m prepared for battle!!!

As always, I look forward to your replies. Feel free to ask any questions as well.

Take it easy fellas,

Timex

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

Glad to hear you’re holding strong. Keep your powder dry, and don’t drop your guard. She is likely to crank up the psychological warfare. Keep us posted!

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