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All women are the same. The difference is, if a man is holding the boundaries for them and they behave themselves, or they go with feminism and their natural biological behavior. The moment you think that some women are different, then you are feeding yourself the blue pill with false hope of something that isn’t even logical.
Succinct and to the point. Beautifully put, Uly.
All women are like that. The only difference between women is whether the laws and customs of the governments and societies where they currently live constrain or encourage their baser behaviors.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
All women are the same. The difference is, if a man is holding the boundaries for them and they behave themselves, or they go with feminism and their natural biological behavior. The moment you think that some women are different, then you are feeding yourself the blue pill with false hope of something that isn’t even logical.
Succinct and to the point. Beautifully put, Uly.
All women are like that. The only difference between women is whether the laws and customs of the governments and societies where they currently live constrain or encourage their baser behaviors.
Very much appreciated. Never feel refrained from putting it in your own words. I enjoy the diction and the approach that you use, which gets the point across quite efficiently. The diversity in that will always increase the chance of being understood.
The laws in the current situation is more an enemy to us than women. This is why it is a waste of stress and time to hate women, nor is it going to do any good to hate the nature of a person. Until the law is changed, there is no changing the way women behave, because they are incapable of even seeing what they are doing as wrong.
Social anxiety is one of the many bulls~~~ “disorders” made up over the last few decades
I disagree. I am on no drugs nor using any therapists, I am getting over it on my own.
Children used to be socialized as a matter of course. They were introduced to new people, new places, and new things as way of teaching them that life is all about new people, new places, and new things.
Children now are taught fear. They’re locked away at home, daycare, and school. They routed from car to bus to lockdown and back like prisoners.
Now that, I can agree with. There are social problems exacerbating this. but why then do you say;
When I see a someone claiming to have social anxiety, someone having to pop pills, sit in sessions, or carry around their therapy iguana everywhere they go, I know I’m looking at a child in an adult’s body. They’re an incomplete person, partially due to their upbringing and partially due to their own failings.
They should have learned how to say “Hello” and shake someone’s hand in kindergarten. They should have learned that dealing with life means dealing with the unknown. Instead they were swaddled, coddled, and cocooned by well meaning idiots. They then stayed in that cocoon because it was always easier than trying.
“Curing” social anxiety is akin to “curing” wetting your pants. After a certain age you shouldn’t have been worried about either.
Social anxiety is akin to a phobia.
Not sure if you’ve had any serious emotions recently but you can’t control them once you have certain psychological paradigms. You can work to change your underlying paradigms, but often that is hard work and takes time.
I cannot control my anxiety when I feel it, it is a deeply rooted thing in my mind. No amount of “growing up” is going to help, no amount of time, not without WORK. Real personal development. Real red pills and paradigm shifts from deep revelations.You seem to be saying that social anxiety is both made up, and a real social problem and you even provide the things which cause it… get f~~~ed old bill.
By the way, this is what most of you look like:
1.GO YOUR OWN WAY
2.ANYONE WHO DEVIATES FROM WHAT I BELIEVE, IS A “BLUE PILL MAN” AND NOT GOING THEIR OWN WAY.There’s a lot of important information on this website, I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but look at yourselves. Take a real red pill.
We say AWALT or EWALT because ENOUGH of them are like that. Why? Because female nature is inherent. It’s preconditioned behavior. Does that mean ALL women exhibit those behaviors? No. There are SOME unicorns.
But that’s not what many other MGTOWs, even in this thread, are saying.
If you want to get over social anxiety as it relates to deal with women, when the secret is repetition. You need to get the reps in on conversation, and the reps in on the approach. That’s how you build your self confidence. The more times you do it, the easier it gets. Getting shot down is the biggest anxiety that men have in approaching women. The key is realizing that when you get shot down, NOTHING F~~~ING HAPPENS. So what? You’re still alive. You didn’t get hurt. Anxiety is just your brain using fear to prevent you from taking risks. The fear of failure. It’s a PROTECTION mechanism. Once you understand it and get past it, you can do whatever you f~~~ing want.
See now that’s good advice right there.
F~~~ing phoenix, why’d you have to come here with your off topic bulls~~~?Also this post needs more airtime;
How did it happen?
I once read from a very excellent psychology page that you see some people as superheroes in the sense that they make you feel less powerful in their presence. Now, you stopped seeing them as such and therefore have less anxiety as to how you should behave.
This is the page for anyone who wantst o now more about psychology the non-traditional way.
Had I simply ruled them out now? but what had changed inside from before? Was I previously thinking that maybe I had to try and woo them? maybe I cared about what they thought of me? maybe I was afraid I was going to try and get involved, knowing on some deep level I was putting my heart on the butcheress’s block? What do you think it was?
Woman are a 24/7 s~~~ test. They can say nothing and just use their looks. Flash some panties or some cleavage. You were afraid of failing the test. It’s the same anxiety you get when have to take a real test (like a math test). You took some MGTOW 101 classes and this time you knew the answers.
Test Answers Below::
PUA = Must get 100% or fail then try again with another who might have an easier test.
Simp = Must get 100% or fail then flagellate self.
MGTOW = F~~~ your test I don’t have to take it.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Woman are a 24/7 s~~~ test.
[…]
MGTOW = F~~~ your test I don’t have to take it.
That’s definitely got substance, I’ll drink to that!
My opinion to you is to listen to a senior member like Phoenix instead of acting defensive. There is wisdom in his message.
Class A retard above. I can’t resist commenting on this.
“My opinion to you”? That doesn’t even make sense, did you mean “my advice to you”?
another case of GO YOUR OWN WAY, BY LISTENING TO THIS ONE GUY.If you believe so highly in your newly found self confidence then why are you even on these boards? To brag??
So you didn’t read my first post. I am here to help people with their social anxiety and to figure out what changed for me, what made my anxiety evaporate? I’m getting answers amongst the “CONFORM! CONFORM!” bulls~~~. All this was stated in my original post.
You seem extremely reactive. I thought Phoenix was on the money about attractive women never being single and they usually always have a Justin or Justin(s) Case lined up even when in relationships.
You are attacking men with more wisdom and experience than you who might just be trying to HELP you even though it might sound harsh or tough love.If you fall down 7 times, get up 8
Dude smells like tuna
Don't care
Wasn’t going to reply to this topic because social anxiety isn’t really my thing. Frankly, I’m pretty stoic and in my own little humor filled world even in public, and haven’t given a single f~~~ in close to a decade since I’m always making fun of everyone in my head unless I’m cool with you.
However this little nugget is VERY important:
You will not find your unicorn.
The girl of you dreams is only in your dreams. She’s a fiction. As a young dudebro fresh out of high school I bought into this fiction and I reinforced it by seeing characters in media that I adored. Guess what though. She DOESN’T exist. Don’t waste your time looking for unicorns. Those chicks on the train? Just slags before they morph into hags.
If you are the type to still date, understand women are for all intents and purposes resource leeches. They will waste money, time, or other valuable aspects. It doesn’t matter how well you treat them (I speak from experience) they aren’t going to be “the one”. You may not understand the “pump and dump” mentality, but in time it starts to make a lot of sense why certain men or bad boys toss seemingly “good women” to the curb or hang em out to dry. Because what is really happening is that they are beating them at their own game, but are merciful enough not to do it AFTER you have spent 5+ years treating them like “the one”.
But that’s not what many other MGTOWs, even in this thread, are saying.
It’s on you to decide for yourself. Remember that nearly everything on this site, with the exception of few core principles, is an opinion. I dip my wick quite often and will date as it suits me. Knowing there are risks, I choose to navigating the waters rather being a monk. A handful of men will balk at this and send warnings my way. I appreciate their well meaning, but I go my own way. Being defensive is not the way to handle it. Consider those opinions that benefit you, and ignore those that don’t. You have a new found confidence, this a good way to test and use it.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
You must live in a very different social climate to me, because I’ve known plenty of young attractive, single women, and as an introvert with social anxiety I barely get out.
He’s in the same social climate, we all are. Do you not understand that girls lie all the time? There is no such thing as an attractive single girl.
We will see.
You must live in a very different social climate to me, because I’ve known plenty of young attractive, single women, and as an introvert with social anxiety I barely get out.
By the way, I made no assumptions regarding their preference towards me or availability, don’t mistake me for one of those men
The prospect of interacting with anyone was anxiety inducing to me, especially attractive women. Maybe because I was not aware, only subconsciously aware, of the danger I was putting myself in.
Not we. YOU will see.
But, since we aren’t here to make you miserable with us, I will give you a tip. If you are going to play Russian roulette, then at least take this advice to help your odds.
And once you understand this, and especially if you’ve gotten that pressure of having sex and being “good” at it out of the way,
And you either have enough experience to understand that only a young virgin can possibly pair bond and have any shot at becoming a mother to your children, or you gain that knowledge through observation, or you realize even that is a long shot, and you stop caring.
1. Get laid. If I was a betting man, I’d say you’d go full Super Sayjin Simp even if she goes full psycho-bitch mode. So don’t date a fatty or an uggo in case you put the chains on yourself with her. AVOID KIDS. What you need is to do a few things, don’t date her for too long, pay attention to your willingness to do whatever she wants over your wants. Like 1 week or something. Practically a pump and dump. She is going to be sweet in this period and won’t have the claws out.
2. Learn to say “no” and be adamant about it. This is really what makes or breaks a long term relationship. The inability for a man to say no and stand by the word confidently, and even willing to break up the relationship over it. If a man can’t say “no” and “then we need to break up” if she is adamantly going to be a c~~~ about it, then the relationship will eventually fail.
3. Only take a relationship seriously if she is a VIRGIN and young. Only virgin chicks have really a chance at pair bonding. Even then it is a risk if you are a simp, can’t provide, or she has a high IQ (hey either risk getting boned with hypergamy or have mundane conversations).
4. Don’t blame Big Boss because I told you to date modern women. I sympathized with your f~~~~~ry; don’t hate the player, hate the game.
I’m actually insulted by that, you don’t f~~~ing know me. I could “rEd PiLl” you into the f~~~ing grave, don’t presume anything about me. You think I’m blue pill because I think “not all women are like that”? Well I think the AWALT attitude is the second blue pill. How f~~~ing close minded are you to think ALL women are the same? That’s just as bad as the feminists who think all men are rapists.
If you seriously believe “AWALT” you are the same problem from the other side. Get REALLY red pilled. Look at why you want to believe that. Doesn’t it make your own bad relationship choices seem easier if it was all out of your control? If the game was stacked against you and there was no possible way to win because all women are like that! doesn’t that feel better?
It’s the same responsibility avoidance and but from the other side. Let go of your jaded attitude and attempts to blame other people for your own failures of judgment.
You don’t like it? The truth doesn’t care weather you like it or not. I’m done talking to you.Yeah, by that I mean more than the three this guy says he has met. Different social environments.
You know what, I’m out.
I’m trying to provide some help for people to get over their social anxiety with this thread, this^ is not it.
Anonymous3See now that’s good advice right there.
F~~~ing phoenix, why’d you have to come here with your off topic bulls~~~?If we’re talking about off topic, then your thread should be removed from the forums, since this is the MGTOW forum, not health or anxiety or talking to women forums. The only way your topic at all relates to MGTOW is if you are blue pill and are seeking to become red pill, and are in need of de-programming. You were given that on-topic advice, but if you’re going to insist this entire thread is off topic, maybe it should be moved to the litter box.
Anonymous6By the way, this is what most of you look like:
1.GO YOUR OWN WAY
2.ANYONE WHO DEVIATES FROM WHAT I BELIEVE, IS A “BLUE PILL MAN” AND NOT GOING THEIR OWN WAY.There’s a lot of important information on this website, I’m not going to throw the baby out with the bathwater, but look at yourselves. Take a real red pill.
You’re not completely wrong in picking upon that bullet point that you’ve labeled #2. I actually learned that point when I was on this website under a different name and avatar. You’re the only person that I’ve seen point that out to date.
We say AWALT or EWALT because ENOUGH of them are like that. Why? Because female nature is inherent. It’s preconditioned behavior. Does that mean ALL women exhibit those behaviors? No. There are SOME unicorns.
But that’s not what many other MGTOWs, even in this thread, are saying.
If that’s the conclusion you’ve reached then you haven’t really been paying attention to threads on this forum. Because you’d recognize how much that terminology comes up, and why.
If you want to get over social anxiety as it relates to deal with women, when the secret is repetition. You need to get the reps in on conversation, and the reps in on the approach. That’s how you build your self confidence. The more times you do it, the easier it gets. Getting shot down is the biggest anxiety that men have in approaching women. The key is realizing that when you get shot down, NOTHING F~~~ING HAPPENS. So what? You’re still alive. You didn’t get hurt. Anxiety is just your brain using fear to prevent you from taking risks. The fear of failure. It’s a PROTECTION mechanism. Once you understand it and get past it, you can do whatever you f~~~ing want.
See now that’s good advice right there.
F~~~ing phoenix, why’d you have to come here with your off topic bulls~~~?This is probably the most relevant thing posted on your topic since it started. And my advice is still true. And in fact you can take it a step further with the content I posted on my “positivity” thread.
Social anxiety is akin to a phobia.
No, it isn’t. A phobia is an actual psychological condition. Social anxiety is not.
Social anxiety is an affectation. It’s something people pretend to have. Most don’t knowingly pretend to have it, but they’re pretending all the same.
If social anxiety were an actual psychological condition, you’d need professional therapy to overcome it. The fact that you’re able to do so on your own means it isn’t and that you were pretending. Pretending knowingly or not.
There is a psychological condition sometimes referred to as pathological shyness. It’s the real deal and can only be treated through drugs and therapy, not by self-help books.
Not sure if you’ve had any serious emotions recently but you can’t control them once you have certain psychological paradigms.
I had PTSD from several combat tours so I don’t need the lecture. I had a diagnosed psychiatric disorder that required professional treatment.
You, on the other hand, had an affectation. An affectation which began when adults made excuses for your behavior and failed to correct it. An affectation which you then carried forward as both an excuse for your immaturity and as an attention getting device.
Remember the Seinfeld episode when George pretends to have an uncontrollable twitch in his arm in order to get free massages? That’s you. That’s how your social anxiety began. It was a device to garner attention and sympathy.
Later in the same episode and after he’s been proven a fraud, George bumps his arm and develops the twitch he’d been pretending to have. That’s you too. You played at having social anxiety for so long that it became real to you. You lived the lie for long that you believed it to be true. The fact that you’ve been able to “overcome” you social anxiety without professional help proves it was always just a figment of your imagination.
I cannot control my anxiety when I feel it, it is a deeply rooted thing in my mind.
Yes you can and boasted as much in this thread.
get f~~~ed old bill.
Get back to us when you have some real problems, opinions, or experiences. Until then, stay in your hug box.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Social anxiety is akin to a phobia.
No, it isn’t. A phobia is an actual psychological condition. Social anxiety is not.
Social anxiety is an affectation. It’s something people pretend to have. Most don’t knowingly pretend to have it, but they’re pretending all the same.
If social anxiety were an actual psychological condition, you’d need professional therapy to overcome it. The fact that you’re able to do so on your own means it isn’t and that you were pretending. Pretending knowingly or not.
There is a psychological condition sometimes referred to as pathological shyness. It’s the real deal and can only be treated through drugs and therapy, not by self-help books.
Not sure if you’ve had any serious emotions recently but you can’t control them once you have certain psychological paradigms.
I had PTSD from several combat tours so I don’t need the lecture. I had a diagnosed psychiatric disorder that required professional treatment.
You, on the other hand, had an affectation. An affectation which began when adults made excuses for your behavior and failed to correct it. An affectation which you then carried forward as both an excuse for your immaturity and as an attention getting device.
Remember the Seinfeld episode when George pretends to have an uncontrollable twitch in his arm in order to get free massages? That’s you. That’s how your social anxiety began. It was a device to garner attention and sympathy.
Later in the same episode and after he’s been proven a fraud, George bumps his arm and develops the twitch he’d been pretending to have. That’s you too. You played at having social anxiety for so long that it became real to you. You lived the lie for long that you believed it to be true. The fact that you’ve been able to “overcome” you social anxiety without professional help proves it was always just a figment of your imagination.
I cannot control my anxiety when I feel it, it is a deeply rooted thing in my mind.
Yes you can and boasted as much in this thread.
get f~~~ed old bill.
Get back to us when you have some real problems, opinions, or experiences. Until then, stay in your hug box.
It’s a thing Bill. It’s just your brain using fear as a protection mechanism to keep you “safe”. From taking risks over fear of rejection. It’s simply a matter of overcoming it like I mentioned earlier in the thread. One you discover you are still alive and not physically injured after a rejection, you realize how silly that “fear was”.
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