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  • #511554
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    Mencken
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    I was asking a friend at work if he misses life prior to being married. He recalled the time when he was in college and free but eventually grew bored of doing the same things. Than he resented how his wife changed after the first child. He told me after the first child, she was not the person he married. I could tell in his tone that this bothered him. This was profound to me.

    Why would a woman change after children? Is this common? I did some searches and did not find much. My only theory is that her biological duty has been fulfilled and thus no longer values men as much? She knows her spouse is legally hooked now and can openly reveal her true form without fearing any consequences? I really don’t know.

    Misogynist - A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.

    #511584
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    Joetech
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    A woman’s body changes after the baby. Imagine pushing a watermelon out of your ass. Would you ever be the same? Couple that with less sleep and totally changed priorities(the maternal instinct now rules all her actions)and you have a completely different person than the one you married. Women aren’t comfortable talking about this much less writing about it. The funny thing thing is, they don’t think the rest of us notice. I call it oblivious delusion. Yes, a woman changes after the baby is born. Some can deal with it, but most can’t.

    "Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

    #511589
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    Joey Alfio
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    My only theory is that her biological duty has been fulfilled and thus no longer values men as much?

    Correct. Most women after a kid or two just give up and start hitting the wall faster too.

    Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

    #511594
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    My only theory is that her biological duty has been fulfilled and thus no longer values men as much?

    ^^^^^^^^I agree with this 100%.

    I saw the exact same thing with my ex after we had kids. She was the epitome of a NAWALT unicorn before we had our kids. Afterwards, everything went south. Her personality changed 180 degrees. She is a COMPLETELY different person now, and not in a good way. I think once the sperm deposit is successful, the donor is ejected.

    The answer, is no.

    #511634
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    MACHO
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    he resented how his wife changed after the first child. He told me after the first child, she was not the person he married.

    I saw the exact same thing with my ex after we had kids. She was the epitome of a NAWALT unicorn before we had our kids. Afterwards, everything went south.

    Yep everything changes from then on!

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
    #511641
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    Eric Lauder
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    Divorced man here.
    Women becoming much worse after having the kid it’s the most common thing in a marriage contract, it’s the default turning point.

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    #511653
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    My only theory is that her biological duty has been fulfilled and thus no longer values men as much?

    I don’t believe this is biological, but social. Think back to caveman times. Even after the woman has her baby, she still NEEDS her man to take care of her and the child. Is she going to hunt the saber-tooth tiger and the woolly mammoth? It’s in her best interest to continue to please him or he’ll just up and leave her, and then she and her brat are food for the wolves.

    However, in a gynocentric society, the government essentially fulfills the role of the father, and women know this. Once she has a kid, she’s set for life because she can legally take everything her husband owns and the government will enforce this at the point of a gun. She no longer has an incentive to be sweet and caring to her husband, so she isn’t. Women are only nice when they have something to gain.

    If the world ever reverts to a point where women once again depend on men for their very survival, you can bet blowjobs and cooked dinners will suddenly become a lot more common.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

    #511667
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    Anonymous
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    We’re talking about wives here, so we’re only talking about women who’ve been clever enough to keep playing NAWALT until their resource is secured. The longest any NAWALT routine will last is the point of childbirth.
    I’ve read many personal stories on here and I’ve lost count of the number of men who met the real AWALT on their wedding night. The change happened on the same day as they sign the marriage contract. It’s like night and day.

    Rev Lawrence Shannon explains how long the NAWALT routine lasts in The Predatory Female He explains that her angelic routine lasts only as long as it takes to nail down her victim, not a moment longer.

    However many modern women are so smitten with entitlement (or lazy) that the change happens as soon as they move in to live together. The mere fact they’ve managed to get the man to have them under the same roof will trigger a subconscious involuntary reversal to AWALT. These men get ample warning. Many of them take note and end the relationship. Many don’t, they think it’s just a phase It ends up being a phase that never ends.

    If a woman is scatter brained enough, and many are, they’ll have an instant reversal into AWALT the moment a man tells her he loves her, or buys her chocolates or flowers or gives any indication whatsoever that he’s emotionally owned. He instantly becomes sexually boring to her at best and repugnant at worst.

    It’s simple. As soon as a woman feels she has the degree of ownership over a man that she was aiming for she’ll revert back to AWALT.
    Married women aim the highest and childbirth is the last and most legally and emotionally binding act of ownership.

    #511671
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    TheDude
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    My ex already had a kid when I met her… didn’t stop her from being a total animal in the bedroom. Then we had our own kid together… that did.

    So I’m gonna go for psychological. If it were physiological, she’d have been s~~~ in the sack form day one.

    And I bet her animal drive will return when she meets her next victim.

    #511680
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    Chris1234
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    I believe they change into their true selves simply because they know they have you locked in and can use the kid/s over you. At that point its check mate as they have the government and courts to back them up.
    I have witnessed my friends wife put on an act for 2 years until the kid came along. He’s way too good for her and she knows it. She used to act social and pretend she was easy going, I could tell it was an act. She had a kid and a switch was flicked. Now he cant even go out for a beer without being accused of something.

    #511683
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    Keymaster
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    Anonymous
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    My only theory is that her biological duty has been fulfilled and thus no longer values men as much?

    I don’t believe this is biological, but social. Think back to caveman times. Even after the woman has her baby, she still NEEDS her man to take care of her and the child. Is she going to hunt the saber-tooth tiger and the woolly mammoth? It’s in her best interest to continue to please him or he’ll just up and leave her, and then she and her brat are food for the wolves.

    However, in a gynocentric society, the government essentially fulfills the role of the father, and women know this. Once she has a kid, she’s set for life because she can legally take everything her husband owns and the government will enforce this at the point of a gun. She no longer has an incentive to be sweet and caring to her husband, so she isn’t. Women are only nice when they have something to gain.

    If the world ever reverts to a point where women once again depend on men for their very survival, you can bet blowjobs and cooked dinners will suddenly become a lot more common.

    This is not how things worked in “caveman times”. You only think it worked this way because that’s the gynocentric indoctrination you’ve been given.

    They have anthropological studies on this. Also it was covered in my Human Sexuality Biology course back in undergrad.

    These primitive human societies were not monogamous. You did not have a wife. Women MIGHT have lived with a man, like the village chief or whatever, but birth was all decided maternally. Everyone was f~~~ing everyone, and the female body is designed to mask parentage. Part of the reason I understand biological cycles so well is my science background. The science is pretty well known—to scientists. And hidden from everyone else for some reason.

    The way it generally worked is women sought to have as many children with as many men as possible. That way they would want to give her resources, because the children might be his. But even moreso, it was a woman’s BROTHERS that most took care of her. Why? Because the PARENTAGE WAS GUARANTEED. The brother KNEW that was his SISTER’S child.

    No man could be sure, nobody would have any clue that he was the FATHER.

    Mortality rates were also very high, so you couldn’t just rely on one man. Probably he would die—before the woman did.

    You can look all of this stuff up if you want. In fact I encourage it, it’s always best for men to learn FACTS and not use conjecture.

    #511710
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    Anonymous
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    BEFORE childbirth, they can act like the sweetest, loving creature you ever met.

    Inspiring dreams of growing old together and mutual support.

    You and her against the world.

    AFTER childbirth they VOGUE into the most hideous, c~~~y creature you ever had the misfortune to meet.

    Inspiring you to dream nightly of your escape.

    It’s no longer you and her against the world.

    It’s HER and the STATE and the DEMON inside her, hell bent on your total destruction, against you.

    Um, yeah, it’s a bit s~~~.

    For the love of God,

    DO NOT MARRY.

    DO NOT COHABITATE.

    DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN.

    RUN for your very SOUL.

    #511712
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    You can look all of this stuff up if you want. In fact I encourage it, it’s always best for men to learn FACTS and not use conjecture.

    This is the one part of your post I agree with. So go ahead and post me evidence to some of these so-called FACTS.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

    #511750
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    Anonymous
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    You can look all of this stuff up if you want. In fact I encourage it, it’s always best for men to learn FACTS and not use conjecture.

    This is the one part of your post I agree with. So go ahead and post me evidence to some of these so-called FACTS.

    Spoonfeeding someone isn’t them seeking facts.

    Make some effort. I already guided you, and you are too lazy to look. Instead you take a standoffish, condescending tone.

    It is like you consider me an enemy, rather than an MGTOW brother. Why are you so desperate to uphold the gynocentric male disposable utility model?

    #511760
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    Anonymous
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    You can look all of this stuff up if you want. In fact I encourage it, it’s always best for men to learn FACTS and not use conjecture.

    This is the one part of your post I agree with. So go ahead and post me evidence to some of these so-called FACTS.

    Actually you know what, let’s just take it on the level. You made your “caveman times” post before mine. So you show me your evidence for your caveman times writeup, and then I will post up my evidence. That is fair, is it not?

    You DO have evidence for your claims, right? It’s not like you’re hypocritically demanding something from me, that you yourself do not have and cannot show?

    #511768
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    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    Couple that with less sleep and totally changed priorities(the maternal instinct now rules all her actions)and you have a completely different person than the one you married.

    This doesn’t seem to happen with single mothers, though. They remain as desperate for dick (a wallet) as ever.

    It’s not a hormonal change or even a physical change. It’s a legal one. Once she knows she has you completely locked the f~~~ down with legally mandated paternity responsibilities, she can stop pretending and be the lazy entitled bitch to you that she always was on the inside.

    #511769
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    Mencken
    Mencken
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    Relax, the caveman times is just an analogy. He is defensive because of the verbiage used. Saying things like, “The gynocentric indoctrination you have been given.” or “learn FACTS.” all has negative connotations.

    Misogynist - A man who hates women as much as women hate one another.

    #511774
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    Anonymous
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    Relax, the caveman times is just an analogy. He is defensive because of the verbiage used. Saying things like, “The gynocentric indoctrination you have been given.” or “learn FACTS.” all has negative connotations.

    Fair enough in that case. A lot of times things get lost through the internet. I sometimes have trouble communicating what I want to through just the written word, and I am sure I unintentionally appear to be more aggressive than I intend to. I also read that into other people’s posts sometimes as well, and probably there is no intent on their part.

    Brother CST, please understand I do not wish to personally cause you discomfort. I merely disagree with that caveman analogy, partly because of my education on the subject, but also because I have always felt it makes men disposable and upholds the gynocentric view that permeates our society.

    #511870
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    Constantine
    Constantine
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    My only theory is that her biological duty has been fulfilled and thus no longer values men as much?

    Yup. Even though she got to experience something growing inside her, a feeling that we’ll never know, and wouldn’t have been able to have a baby in the first place without the help of a man.

    They never look at that side of it. Instead they focus on that one day out of the nine months when the child arrived, even though caesareans can now deliver a baby with much less (even no) pain. So if she undergoes a natural birth, it’s because she chose to.

    It’s also been said that you forget exactly what pain feels like after a few years. Yes, including childbirth.

    But none of that matters to them. They are programmed to find the negative in every goddamn area.

    To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

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