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Jeremiah Johnson 3 years, 9 months ago.
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An impartial note to everyone in this thread. The OP was very interested in knowing your various opinion on this topic, and has written to us to express that he did not intended to divide brothers here or create friction with anyone.
Just want you to know he cared enough to say that, and hopes it didn’t divide anyone.
Whether you’re for or against, he’s being conscientious about the atmosphere.
Hope you don’t mind us stepping in this way.That’s all.
I’m more interested in the cures that cannabis can provide.
I don’t care much for smoking it.Agreed. THC offers cancer sufferers a respite from nausea. Should be pursued. Isolate how it does that and turn off the euphoria effect and enhance the nausea suppression. Presto. New drug for cancer patients.
Isolate the anti-epileptic properties of CBC in cannibus and develop a drug to prevent epileptic episodes.
Of course they ban all research on it.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
Anonymous42I had an uncle pass away recently from cancer and he was like Jack on steroids against pot until he contracted cancer.
He was consuming brownies and cookies on and after Chemotherapy up until he was in intensive care.
With high doses of opiates in his blood it was like he wasn’t even in the room with us, I’m sure he would have preferred massive doses of cookies and brownies to offset the opiates.
I smashed my finger last year and requested a program of coming back 3 or 4 times a day for a localized anesthetic (shots), but no, they prescribed narcotics, I felt like puking from the nausea they caused, I threw them away the next day and wrote my own prescription, I followed Dr. MG-Tower’s recommendation of Tylenol and Pot!
That way I could go back to work using the one good hand and not worry about crushing it too! I wonder how many people fell down a flight of stairs while on pain killers.
Anonymous3Cannabis just isn’t something that most people want to use or do use.
Where are you getting your stats form sir? I am curious if you could point to even ONE reference that showed us this number? Not being disrespectful in any way sir, I just want the actual hard evidence on this quote.
Wait….
You’re the one who wants it legalised, duffus.
It’s for YOU – YOU – to f~~~ing prove it to me, not for me to prove it to you, jack ass.
Anonymous3Nevermind, I don’t think you will find such evidence. I certainly did not mean to bring up a topic that divides us instead of bringing us together, I just wanted to know each man’s personal opinion on this subject and feel terrible that it has instead divided our ranks…
To Jack though – I feel that many men jumped your wagon very quickly, and the reason I personally felt they did so was that instead of sharing just “your own” opinion, you started too speak for MANY people instead, you included “MOST” people “most successful” people and “criminal” people, and sir I am not trying to be mean, but you cannot possibly have the thoughts of ALL those people, you just cannot…and that stirs things up in people when you take their opinion away for them, but again this is just my thoughts on the matter, that being said I am dropping this, did not mean to bring out so much hostility…Nevermind, what, dick wad??
I don’t monitor these forums constantly, 24/7, just for the privilege of replying to you.
Mercy me, let me get on my knees and suck your f~~~ing c~~~ while I’m here.
I’m giving my opinion, you arse. That’s what you wanted, yes?
I’m telling you that I oppose the legalisation of cannabis based on:
1. Common sense – it’s harmful, so common-sense tells me it probably shouldn’t be legalised. Any objections, knob head?
2. Experience – I have seen people become violent under the influence of cannabis. It’s a myth to say that cannabis makes people peaceful. It doesn’t. That’s a f~~~ing lie, right there.
3. Philosophy/views about society – I don’t want people to be pacified by a drug. That’s damaging to society.
So you’ve got my opinion. In fact, I’ve had to give you it three times. Now f~~~ off.
Anonymous11Long term use of opiate class painkillers have very serious repercussions. Even the few days I was on them for tooth pain and root canal made me feel like s~~~. Yet, some people use opiates recreationally.
There are a lot of folks like Jack. The propaganda war against the demon weed is now over 80 years old.
He is right about the law. However, the law is immoral IMHO regarding this subject. We’re already beginning to see laws being changed. How many lives of men and women have been ruined by these laws over the past 80 years. The laws have caused far more damage than the plant.
This whole thing started at the dawn of the petrochemical industry.
Using the law to eliminate competition is basic business.
I did not intend to be divisive. I have a very strong libertarian streak. I remember the marijuana causes birth defects scare campaign of the 70s and 80s. It has since been proven false.
There are cannabinoid receptors on certain cells. Prohibition has stifled legitimate research into medical uses of cannabinoids.
Anonymous3I had an uncle pass away recently from cancer and he was like Jack on steroids against pot until he contracted cancer.
He was consuming brownies and cookies on and after Chemotherapy up until he was in intensive care.
With high doses of opiates in his blood it was like he wasn’t even in the room with us, I’m sure he would have preferred massive doses of cookies and brownies to offset the opiates.
I smashed my finger last year and requested a program of coming back 3 or 4 times a day for a localized anesthetic (shots), but no, they prescribed narcotics, I felt like puking from the nausea they caused, I threw them away the next day and wrote my own prescription, I followed Dr. MG-Tower’s recommendation of Tylenol and Pot!
That way I could go back to work using the one good hand and not worry about crushing it too! I wonder how many people fell down a flight of stairs while on pain killers.
Let me just pick this one out, just to make an example of one of you. I’m not going to reply to all of you, because there are just too many of you trying this sneaky tricky.
Can you READ? I have already said that I don’t oppose medical exceptions, as cannabis already has medical applications. But citing the supposed medical benefits is not an argument for general legalisation of cannabis, is it.
That’s just you being a sneaky little f~~~er. You know that most people probably don’t favour legalisation – who wants their kid smoking it? – so you try the sympathy route.
For me, medical exceptions should not be a route to back-door legalisation, so it should not be a general dispensation. It should only be allowed for terminal ill or seriously ill patients on the authorisation of a senior doctor/physician. It should be expensive and rare.
Sorry to get so angry, but I find debating things online very frustrating. I find that people can’t see outside their own tiny little boxes and get personal, as people are doing here. You seem to think I know nothing about the world, but I do. So now you say I’m brainwashed, even though I have direct experience of this issue.
I’m not brainwashed. I’m just telling you what I f~~~ing think. DEAL WITH IT.
Jack you are the stubborn idiot here.
1. Common sense – it’s harmful, so common-sense tells me it probably shouldn’t be legalised. Any objections, knob head?
It is harmful? Really? How?
That’s just you being a sneaky little f~~~er. You know that most people probably don’t favour legalisation – who wants their kid smoking it? – so you try the sympathy route.
Actual legalization would actually limit children’s access to it. Think of alcohol and tobacco. Dealers don’t ask for IDs, but liquor stores do.
You sound like a cop or a t~~~ with your reasoning.
If you had access to it and wouldn’t be so stubborn with your world view, it could have helped you with your depression problems. Have you ever even tried it?
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
I am for legalization. I haven’t done a ton of research on the effects, but I see nothing that says legalizing it would do more damage to lives that keeping it illegal does.
My nephew got kicked out of his first year of OSU for possession of marijuana. Now, it was stupid because it was illegal, but it makes no sense that his career and life were forever damaged because of possessing something so small. His friend, who got drunk and violent, actually a police officer, got over better then my nephew. How does that make sense.
Keeping it illegal is costing me. If you make it legal, you are reducing the number of criminals that aren’t harming any one. Police can go back to investigating actual crimes. The volume of other crimes would go down since many crimes are done in connection with drugs. I’m not paying taxes for incarcerated men who could actually be productive members of society if given an actual chance. Cartels are weakened, improving the life in South/Central American countries, decreasing the level of illegal immigration.
I have no studies on this, but I think there are a lot of people that would never get into harder drugs if marijuana wasn’t a good gateway drug. I personally don’t find crossing the line for marijuana to be a big step. And since I’m already illegal trying harder stuff is another small step. On the other hand, if marijuana is legal, then I stop there because going illegal for the harder stuff is now a big step.
Ok. Then do it.
I have no studies on this, but I think there is a lot of people that would never get into harder drugs if marijuana wasn’t a good gateway drug. I personally don’t fine crossing the line for marijuana to be a big step. And since I’m already illegal trying is another small step. On the other hand, if marijuana is legal, then I stop there because going illegal for the harder stuff is now a big step.
Great point. Never thought of that
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
I have no studies on this, but I think there is a lot of people that would never get into harder drugs if marijuana wasn’t a good gateway drug. I personally don’t fine crossing the line for marijuana to be a big step. And since I’m already illegal trying is another small step. On the other hand, if marijuana is legal, then I stop there because going illegal for the harder stuff is now a big step.
Great point. Never thought of that
Too bad my grammar was s~~~. I really need to start proofreading more.
Ok. Then do it.
Anonymous42That’s just you being a sneaky little f~~~er. You know that most people probably don’t favour legalisation – who wants their kid smoking it? – so you try the sympathy route.
Sneaky little f~~~er, moi même?
6,000 years and not 1 single overdose.
I think it classifies as more as a herb than it does as a drug. Most DRUGS have an overdose limit, alcohol’s high limit is called alcohol POISONING.
The only way pot can POISON you is if the government sprayed it with chemical herbicide….
Now f~~~ off.
Nevermind, what, dick wad??
let me get on my knees and suck your f~~~ing c~~~ while I’m here.
Brother, you have taken this to a totally unnecessary level…I never intended for this to upset you or anyone this terribly, and I feel horrible it has made you so out of control emotional…Please understand I only wanted your opinion, not anything else…please accept my apology in whatever I have done to offend you so greatly…peace…
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Cannabis is a great material for many uses, can be used as building material (a s~~~ ton if you search for Info, fascinating) as well as medical. Also there is nothing like that on Earth, it’s still curious where the f~~~ did it come from (History and religions etc).
Should be researched more.
Yeh, I wouldn’t mind a legalization in my country, with age restrictions of course etc. same as alcohol, tobacco. I don’t smoke anything btw.
If we talk about drugs/substances, I have coffee to often lately.
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There are a lot of folks like Jack. The propaganda war against the demon weed is now over 80 years old.
I was unaware there were those who felt so strongly against this plant, It is like they believe it is every bit as bad as heroin or something, and that kind of makes sense, if you look at their education and who was teaching them at that time, and the motives behind it…just another way for the elite to divide and conquer, it is very clear to me now why cannabis has moved so slowly, I just wish we could sit everyone down and show them the new evidence available, and what the doctor’s who are studying cannabis have to say, it would change so many minds…and the people like myself who really need this medicine might finally have access too it…I am afraid though, that the education will not reach everyone as fast as it needs to, to help all those in need..
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Women’s liberation has caused a crackdown on drugs as well. It’s only with more female influence over the past century that it has been made illegal.
Before feminism it was normal to be able to use it when you felt like. Not like “WEED?? GO TO JAIL YOU DIRTY MAN!!” Almost an equal number of females have admitted to smoking weed but what percentage are in jail for it? Not even a fraction of the number of males.
Anonymous42it’s still curious where the f~~~ did it come from (History and religions etc).
It’s believed to have originated in Ganja Valley China.
Hemp is a nitrophile that outproduces wood 4 to 1.HGS calculates each ton of hemp grown represents 1.63 tons of CO2 absorption.
Btw Jack, as I stated before, you have stated too many times too count now, “most people don’t want it legalized”, and as I stated there is not one link in the world that backs you…but too be fair, let me share a few with you that back me on this…
http://www.gallup.com/poll/186260/back-legal-marijuana.aspx
https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/01/15/most-americans-support-marijuana-legalization/
http://prospect.org/article/majority-americans-now-support-marijuana-legalization
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/20/americans-support-legaliz_n_7101132.html
New Gallup Poll Shows The Majority of Americans Want Weed Legalized…Again
Poll: 61 Percent Of Americans Want Marijuana Legalization, Smashing Previous Records
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/257563-poll-over-half-back-legal-marijuana-use
http://www.marijuana.com/blog/news/2015/11/polls-show-north-america-wants-marijuana-legalized/
https://www.rt.com/usa/249765-majority-americans-marijuana-legalization/
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/majority-of-americans-now-support-legal-pot-poll-says/
In this list you will find your “successful people”, “religous people”,and “parents”…
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Anonymous241. Common sense
I already established that you have none of this.
You say you are fine with a drug being legal that is much worse than the drug that you want to be kept illegal based on the opposite of common sense. You said it would be to hard to keep people from home brewing and I came back and said “do you realize that a lot of people grow their own weed”. You say it is up to pro-marijuana people to prove it is not harmful. Well, I once again refer you to President Nixon’s study (he held your views) that showed marijuana to be mostly benign. He literally threw the study in the trash and made marijuana a schedule 1 drug so that he could lock up political opponents.
You have no leg stand on. Wake up or go away.
Women’s liberation has caused a crackdown on drugs as well. It’s only with more female influence over the past century that it has been made illegal.
Before feminism it was normal to be able to use it when you felt like. Not like “WEED?? GO TO JAIL YOU DIRTY MAN!!” Almost an equal number of females have admitted to smoking weed but what percentage are in jail for it? Not even a fraction of the number of males.
Really? I’d figure that more of these women would WANT weed to be legalized, since they’re so liberal.
And I don’t think that you could actually get arrested for it unless you’re spotted with it, which is technically a crime in progress.
Which actually brings me to an interesting thought:
If weed gets legalized, assuming that it ever does, are we going to have another scenario similar to how we deal with “white privilege” or “male privilege”, where people exclude certain groups because they’re not stoners? Or, at the very least, they don’t use it for anything? As overly progressive as Western society is becoming, we could potentially have another Animal Farm scenario. Just an idea up for contemplation. Nothing more.
Damn, this thread is becoming like the Islam thread that became…heated…
I don’t think any personal experiences, whether it’s from Jack or anyone on this thread, should be very viable in a discussion like this. As this is the internet, anyone can say anything on here. I could say that I’ve seen violence from people on a high and whether you all want to believe me is up to you. That’s part of why I stated my opinion on the issue earlier on here.
But the main priority is using facts for this. Not opinions. On everyone here.
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