can you belive this?

[Anonymous 3]

I met someone & we sat & talked over coffee. I asked for her # & she was more than happy to give it to me. I didn’t call right away b/c our paths were crossing all the time & we began breakfasting & lunching together. Taking walks, etc., etc. One morning I called ( first call ) to see if we could meet. She answered, got all flustered & hung up very quickly. Shortly thereafter she disappeared off the scene & I received a summons to appear in court & charged with 2nd degree aggravated harassment. I made the court appearance. She, of course, did not show. the CASE was dismissed. She tied up the whole system behind one phone call & it was deemed a valid complaint. the charge when read by the judge : the defendent made an unwanted phone call to the plaintif. Needless to say I must have interrupted her while she was giving a blowjob. this is a true story. Believe it, or not!!

[Anonymous 43]

unwanted communication is harassment.

This is why I can not communicate with my daughters. They told me to f~~~ off in person and in writing. Fine.

But the c~~~ can put tracking devices on my car, chase me through town, kick my door in, have private investigators follow me, she can call me in to court and not show up, and have me put in jail for whatever reason. All of that is permitted by the court.

C~~~ called me into court and claimed I was outside her house banging on windows, ripping up her garden, and other s~~~. She noted the date and the time and filed a complaint. She didn’t know that at the time I was in a campground 4 states away with about 20 other people on a bike tour and camp deal. Cops were waiting for me when I drove back from Zion, Utah, warrant and summons in hand. lol I had video, statements from the tour company, dirt samples from my bike, receipts, pictures, affidavits from the people on the tour, phone records. Absolutely buried her in evidence that I was nowhere near her house. Bitch f~~~ed up her own garden and blamed me. she left footprints in the dirt that couldn’t have been mine. they were the shoes she wore to f~~~ing court. They matched the pictures she took and brought to court.

that’s why I have a journal and receipts for small purchases every few hours, every fukn day.

[Anonymous 25]

the female gave you her number. that’s an invitation to call her. so it’s not an unwanted phone call.

should have asked the judge to award you your wasted costs for the day and travel expenses. always worth a try

[Anonymous 3]

Wow!! Is my only reply. We are definitely in the right place & on the same page. Thanks for replying with your experience.
The dream turns into a nightmare very quickly. Glad I woke up

[Anonymous 3]

Screwed up my reply, but thank you for sharing your experience. The whole game is rigged. Better not to play. And again Thanks

[pharmerParticipant 407]

Seems like every time I look at the MGTOW boards I find a new level of WTF. Thanks for the story Johnny Zero. Stay safe bro.

Never fuck a crazy chick.

[AutoliteParticipant]

I’ve been maintaining that MGTOW should mean absolutely ZERO social interaction with a female. Is this starting to make sense yet???

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Mitch Headberg once made a joke to the effect of “I don’t need a receipt when I buy a donut, there’s no need to bring ink and paper into this. I can not imagine a situation where I would have to prove that I bought a donut.”

Well obviously Mitch was never in a serious relationship. Now Russel Peters has the right idea… “Every five or ten minutes I’ll walk into a convenience store and call the shop owner an dirty name. When he gets angry I shout at him ‘WHAT TIME IS IT?’ and after he tells me, I leave. You never know when you’re going to need an alibi.”

But seriously, folks… never ask a girl for her number. If the opportunity to contact a woman you’ve just met ever arises, give her your phone and have her look herself up on social media. Then you say thank you, clear the screen without looking at it and walk away.

The ONLY way for a serious MGTOW to engage with women is to do so anonymously. Travel to a different town, pay cash for everything, wear a disposable outfit, give a false name, pick up someone in a bar and go back to their place immediately, do your business, get out and disappear.

Do you honestly want a regret rape charge or a “got an itch/missed my period” phone call or for some other dude who’s been trying to bang her for months deciding you need your face re-arranged because you got her without trying?

Here’s a brief story for reference. I was in New Orleans a year ago and walked into a local restaurant/bar, sat at the counter and placed my order. The chick at the bar took a shine to me so I flirted with her, she bought me a couple of rounds of Jameson and I suggested we take this party elsewhere when she got off work.

I paid cash for the stuff I ordered and, to the best of my knowledge, never even gave her a name.

We went back to her place and got it on that night and the next day I left town.

Yesterday I find myself back in New Orleans and at the same restaurant/bar and there she is. She recognizes me and comes over to say hi. We exchange a few words, I tell her I’ll be back on Monday and we’ll have a drink, pay cash and leave.

Maybe we’ll meet up on Monday, maybe not. I didn’t care the first time and I honestly don’t care now, either. That’s how you do it. I still like to f~~~ now and then, but I’m putting no more time, effort or money into it than I am ordering a beer.

[Anonymous 3]

Johnny zero plays the game with the cards held tightly to his chest. He takes but doesn’t give back. Although I believe the best association is no association, we must deal with them. I believe in subtle disregard & deception when it comes to the feminazies.
Even when you walk your own path they still get in the way. I choose to live in the world as an almost invisible ( 0 ) man

[Anonymous 3]

Well played!

[Anonymous 3]

Somehow I am not doing this right. I am learning. However, I know I am in the right place.
Nothing from nothing gives you nothing

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

This will sound odd, especially coming from me. In the Criminal justice system , there are still those who arent at all bad.Some of them, still make the difference. The Judge would have dismissed the case anyways after finding out it was your first phone call and would have punished her for perjury most likely why she didnt show.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Almost always petty annoyances dont constitute harrasment. She would of have to have proven that the harrasment wa abusive , hostile or intimidating. On the summons, or with the summons did you receive a copy of any of her (statement)(statements)

The most important part of proving the accusation is a continued course of Conduct. Congratulations however on getting it dismissed. Keep the copy of the Judges ruling. She tries with you again its guaranteed to fail.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Autolite wrote:

I’ve been maintaining that MGTOW should mean absolutely ZERO social interaction with a female. Is this starting to make sense yet???

No. Not at all.
Your logic is – 100% of car accidents happen in cars don’t use or in ride in a car. Social interaction has all the same risks as anything else. Learn to manage risk. Don’t stop using a knife the first time you cut yourself. Learn to handle it more carefully.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[AttonParticipant]

I can believe that given how broad and ambiguous laws are. Just ask Gregory Allen Eliot how well this went for him.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[AutoliteParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

Autolite wrote:

I’ve been maintaining that MGTOW should mean absolutely ZERO social interaction with a female. Is this starting to make sense yet???

No. Not at all.
Your logic is – 100% of car accidents happen in cars don’t use or in ride in a car. Social interaction has all the same risks as anything else. Learn to manage risk. Don’t stop using a knife the first time you cut yourself. Learn to handle it more carefully.

I wouldn’t ride in/drive cars or use knives if cars and knives had a mind of their own…

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Many thanks for your post JZ and the excellent replies.

Besides the trip to crazy town, the hard lesson you described demonstrates the considerable power of the Gynocracy. The Hive controls our police and the courts.

Here is another perspective:

I got so many sales calls that I had to hire a service to block unwanted calls on my cell and land line.

The “National Do Not Call List” was not doing enough to stop the harassment.

Why aren’t the real perpetrators of 2nd degree aggravated harassment being prosecuted?

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Such an easy trap to set given that women give their phone numbers out like candy (as if we didn’t need more proof they love their orbiters). I don’t ask women for numbers and I don’t give them mine until they have given me theirs. I make them initiate. They get one chance. They play their flaky orbiter bulls~~~, I delete their number and never call again. I’ve given a few of them the “who is this?” treatment after they’ve decided to call me back.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

I’d say she is either married or has a boyfriend.

[markParticipant 451]

I had my day in court too, but I was the one suing for harassment and I won. Nevertheless, I have collected some lessons on the topic.

1. I don’t ask numbers. In fact, I have been in situations where the girl has asked me “aren’t you going to ask my phone number?” and I said nothing, so they just give it to me.

2. I am Mr. Nobody level 200. Fake name, fake email, pay-as-you-go phone number bought in a convenience shop inside my secondary phone that goes with my secondary wallet that carries my fake business cards together with cash only. The last time I gave my real name or took them to my real place was in 2007. And thank God for hotels that allow you to get a room under a different name.

3. Maximum 3 real, physical dates (you can talk online as much as you like). Maximum one time sex. That is a hard lesson, and has been learned the hard way. No matter how good the sex is, you want to disappear afterwards.

4. Never in your country, or in your city. But if that cannot be helped, make sure you do it on a district that you never visit, with someone who is from out-of-town.

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