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IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) 4 years, 1 month ago.
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I see this everywhere in MGTOW community since few months.
,,It is not her fault – female nature made her do it. She had no choice”.
For example lets compare 2 situations
,,If there is a husband and his wife don’t give him sex for few years (because she prefer to f~~~ young bodybuilders when he is at work) and finally he was tired of it and sleep with his young secretary. Nobody will say ,,It is because of male nature. We simply need sex”. Everybody will blame it personally on him as it was his choice and he could avoid doing that that. So it is simply his fault.
On the other hand lets take this: female teacher is single woman in her thirties and don’t want to go to club and f~~~ drunk bluepiller. So she raped one of her underage students to feel this exciting ,,doing not allowed, taboo thing” sensation. Then nobody will say ,,she is a monster”. Everybody will be like ,,It’s not her fault – women just follow emotions, she never planned it or (!!!) make a decision. It just happened. And also society fails her”. It’s female nature, she can’t suppress her nature.
You understand what I am talking about? If not go to random MGTOW group or forum and search ,,female nature”. There will be thousands sentences like ,,it’s not her fault, it is female nature. She didn’t have ANY choice.”
Let’s get one thing clear – nobody can suppress their nature 100%. But men do this every f~~~in time they met attractive female. The part male nature is simply to f~~~ any female he finds attractive immediately. So if he is working with lets say customers, he have this urge 50-100 times per day. Does he f~~~ them regardless of everything?
No! We men suppress our urges on daily basis. We suppress our sexual drive, our aggression, our ambition for leadership etc. On daily basis. Some men even go mad because the keep suppressing their sexual urges because they just could not find a women that wanted to sleep with them. This is how much control person can have over their nature – to the point of madness.
And now many MGTOW will say ,,but women are different”. Yes, for women suppressing this is even more easy. Don’t believe that – look like 100 years ago most women was on one date and had one husband entire life. So how about it. And they did not suffer. If attractive female will put a hand on your dick it is much more difficult for you to say no than to her in reverse situation. Yet there are more men that say no to that if they are in a relationship, why?
Because suppressing nature is required only from men. Female can’t just do whatever they want, and nearly all younger than 55 years were raised in a spirit ,,whatever you will do is right. You can do no wrong or evil because you are a female. So by default you are right and cannot be held responsible for any action of yours, while you should have more rights than men because females deserve it”.
Now I will explain why so many MGTOW is so quick to blame all female doing on their nature.
We were all raised in this dogma – that females can do no wrong, that they have beautiful harts, that they are always better no matter what they do. And appealing to them is the most rightful feeling in the world. Also is something goes wrong it is never their fault because they are all idea.
And red pill brought you reality – that this dogma is bulls~~~, cruel f~~~in propaganda. Yet your brain want to protect from big changes so you are subconsciously looking for excuses to revert back to your own dogma, just calling it different. That is why rationalizing so many cruel and carefully planned actions (that is a keyword) as pure impulse of female nature.
It is their own choice to not suppress their nature at all and act upon it and even overact…
Thank you for listening. Guys I don’t blame you, ok? This truth is still difficult for me. I just hope that you will realize better what goes on into some of your heads thanks to this post. Thank you MGTOW.
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Robert CrayMessenger did a great video on this topic and he is ruthless about it. It IS her fault. And she is totally aware of it.
That’s why I never let them get off easy just because they are female.
“No I’m not a slut. It’s just something that happened!!!”
“Oh yeah you are. Tsunamis…….. “happen” . Brain tumors…….. “happen”. But having sex with someone else, that doesn’t happen to you. You go out and MAKE it happen like the cheap slut that you are”.
Don’t ever think it’s “female nature”. She knows exactly what she’s doing.
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The big mistake people make is using the word “blame” (or “fault”) instead of “responsibility”.
Who cares who’s “fault” it is? Blame doesn’t even need to exist when the correct person accepts responsibility. Try and teach a woman that, and she thinks you’re being cruel.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Do you blame a lion if it’s eat someone who is not careful?
Do you blame a lion if it’s eat someone who is not careful?
Women do. Don’t they.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.What you so aptly describe is a big problem for feminists today. Female agency.
Women want to be treated equal to men but don’t want any of the responsibility for their actions. They blame their actions on their victims, victim blaming. The corner stone of gender theory. Men are responsible for their actions and women can do anything a man can do but when you go to judge bad behavior, woman get a pass and blame it on men. If a man dares to describe the forces that made him behave badly toward women, it is victim blaming and immediately dismissed.
As you point out if a man is unfaithful he cannot point at his wife who is f~~~ing the pool boy and say what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. She will be defended as a woman ignored sexually by her husband, victim blame. He will be seen as a cad because he is responsible for his own actions.
It is children that have no agency, not women. If women have no agency then they shouldn’t be allowed any responsibility in society because they cannot be blamed if things go wrong.
Thus turning all women into victims with no agency goes against the feminist myth that men and women are the same.
This point makes feminist’s heads explode and turn those tradcon women who love being victims, special little flowers, against feminism.
#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.
I believe that people who run their lives from instinct and habit are literally asleep. It is their duty to use their conscious, rational minds to monitor their habits and instincts and, on occasion, override them. When it comes to harming others, this is particularly important.
Everyone is responsible for their actions. They chose to do it, and they did it. There is no such thing as “it just happened.”
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Anonymous11It’s nothing but an excuse.
victim blaming
I don’t “hate” anything, really. But I sure hate that term.
Particularly when spoken by a professional victim.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The way I see it, there are 3 reasons a person chooses NOT to do something, to perform some sort of action like, such as having sex, murdering someone, or even calling your grandma.
1 – You have experience with that action and know (or believe) that that action is not pleasurable or will be positive for your life. I’m not going to eat eggplant, because I’ve tasted it before and didn’t like it. I’m not going to have sex with you because your a whale and I can’t imagine that would be fun.
2 – You’re completely unaware or indifferent to an action or experience, and therefore have no incentive. I’ve never been skiing or hunting before, and not really all that jazzed to try it. I’ve never heard of movie X, so therefore have no desire to see it.
3 – You do see a particular action as positive or pleasurable, but are aware that said action has consequences that you do not want to face. I want to have sex with that girl, but she probably has an STD. I’d like to murder that guy, but I’ll spend the rest of my life in prison. I don’t want to go to Mom’s house for Christmas
Feminism is all about trying to lower and/or remove the consequences of actions for women put in place by the government, society, and nature itself. They’re tool is manipulation. The problem with this strategy is that although you can manipulate governments and society, you cannot manipulate nature. You also cannot force men to participate in the parts of society that they know has been manipulated.
Ok. Then do it.
Feminism is all about trying to lower and/or remove the consequences of actions for women put in place by the government, society, and nature itself. They’re tool is manipulation. The problem with this strategy is that although you can manipulate governments and society, you cannot manipulate nature. You also cannot force men to participate in the parts of society that they know has been manipulated.
This is true.
Kudos.
I wrote this in July. Kind of long but I think it applies here.
Not For Teacher
This link is for a 6 year old story in Psychology Today about female pedophiles. The article showcases Debbie Lafave as an example. I saw some parts of the story that I found to be bothersome in that the attitudes about female pedophiles discussed here haven’t really changed all that much. The article in which Jennifer Fichter got 22 years for her crimes have yet demonstrated if we are finally imprisoning these women for terms commensurate for their crimes is a trend, or an isolated case.
Is This Woman a Sexual Predator?
First. The article was written by Gad Saad PhD. This gentleman has a PhD from Cornell University. His Wikipedia page doesn’t say what discipline his PhD is in, but he holds B.S. in mathematics and computer science, and has an M.B.A. So I will go out on a limb here and say that his not an authority on Psychiatry, Psychology (abnormal), or criminal profiling.
“The idea is that Debbie Lafave is such a dangerous predator that she was forbidden to have any contact with “children” such as her 17-year old female coworker.”
The tone of this idea, is that this restriction is ridiculous. The idea of such restrictions is that Debbie Lafave has demonstrated a willingness to manipulate minors. Younger people are more impressionable. As such, she should not have access to a vulnerable population. Minors, the elderly, and the mentally and physically handicapped are considered vulnerable populations.
“As a matter of fact, I cannot think of a single instance where a woman was arrested for being a serial predatory pedophile.”Keep Googling bitch.
“However, to label her, a dangerous “sexual predator” is insulting, as it minimizes and trivializes the millions of children who are victimized by dangerous sexual predators, most if not all of whom are recidivist and incorrigible male pedophiles.”
Okay, Now I know this guy is a card carrying feminist mangina. The discussion of the diversion of resources tells me that we need to be sure that we are keeping the money flowing towards the men when it comes to imprisonment. Because of this, we need to keep the money flowing towards women when it comes to being a victim(hood). If money goes towards women being imprisoned for rape then money would flow towards males because they are victims. To acknowledge that males can be the victims of rape, domestic violence, and discrimination would drive a stake through the heart of the idea that women are a disenfranchised segment of society.
Most teenage boys spend much of their waking hours dreaming of meeting “sexual predators” such as Debbie Lafave. Hence, it is somewhat silly to propose that the teenage boy in question has suffered irreversible damage at the “horrifying abuse” that he faced (which if memory serves me right he seemed very keen to partake in).
And this f~~~er also wrote.
“One final thought: my father married my mother when he was 19 and she was about to turn 16. In many American states, this could have landed my father with the lifelong appellation of “dangerous sexual offender.” Nice! It is much superior to have legal codes rooted in a proper understanding of our biological-based human nature rather than creating statutes that are founded on false concerns for political correctness.”
If we look at five year old article linked below, and we get past our disgust over the title, we will see that one of the victims was a four year old little boy. You f~~~. The application of laws against men for having sex with minor females is so rigidly enforced because it is the common understanding as to how damaging the experience is to the young mind. How is it that this experience is mitigated by being male? There have been plenty of instances where male teacher had consensual a relationship(s) with female, minor students and they did tall time in prison. Equal protection under the law.
Either we make it okay for adult men and women to have sexual relationships with minors or we don’t. Either we throw clitorises and breasts in the disposal along with a man’s penis so that Sharon Osbourne can have a laugh, or we all say that is morally repugnant and that no one should be the victim of such treatment.
Houston Press Compiles Texas’ 10 Hottest Female Sex Offenders
That Jennifer Fichter is looking at the possibility of not breathing free air until she is in her 50s, is an indicator that the American populous is getting tired of hearing about our underage sons being molested, no matter how good looking the woman is. We can only hope that this is a continuing trend. The fact that she may have a SMV above 6 isn’t worth consideration. This article has demonstrated that the opinions of “What teenaged boy doesn’t want to boink a hot teacher”, and “She isn’t that big of a danger to society” or even “He wanted it as much as I did” is a mainstream idea in media and culture. If we were to reverse the pronouns in the previously mentioned opinions, then men and woman would be calling for the head of Gad Saad Ph. D.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
I understand what you’re saying, and some menbers speak in generalities about why women cheat regarding the cycle of finding, bonding and extracting resources from a dupe; there isn’t a single guy who reads a mans story here and gives her a pass.
The much more common response is F that bitch, you’re better off without her, and they normally follow with a story or a supporting action.
We expect women to be more than their basic programming at the DNA level. If they can’t move beyond that then among our brothers here it just provides validation for the idea of GYOW.
Women act against you, the Gov protects her from negative actions and even rewards it, they become become insignificant to men that don’t want to be treated as lesser creatures to something that can’t even differentiate between the good and bad choices.
Saying it’s female nature is an easy, sometimes maybe lazy way of admitting AWALT; and justifying the decision to live free of their influence. It’s not a free pass it’s short hand.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
I’m stealing this joke from somebody. Simpsons? South Park?
It’s too bad there’s not like a book that has rules for living in that we could follow, so that we’d know what to do that was ok, and what not to do that was ok. *sigh* If only something like that existed.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
The more I think about it, My opinion is that women are the way they are because their hormones fluctuate daily. They cycle every 30 days. Hormones are powerful psychoactive drugs. That is the part that makes AWLT.
Similar things happen in men when they take steroids to get big. Mental changes, mood swings, anger. etc. But most men don’t take steroids.
But on top of the biology which isn’t their fault, you add the lying, manipulation, victimology, feminism, greed. That is willful and is their fault. They choose to do those. That makes them worthy of scorn.
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Well, I’m a determinist and don’t actually believe in free will. So yes, I believe women do things because it’s in their nature to do so. They have no control over it. And when society allows them to continue doing destructive things to them and society as a whole, they’ll continue doing it.
It’s the same as if you let a dog eat at the table. If you continue to let them do it, they’ll continue eating until nothing’s there anymore and the food is all gone.
The reason we’re MGTOW is because of our nature. We don’t like to be f~~~ed over by other people because women want vagina privilege. Hence, we became MGTOW because of our nature.
Women will keep doing whatever they f~~~ they like until someone stops them. They know better yet they still proceed with whatever the they chose to do. They have no limits until limits are enforced onto them, if women where routinely killed for having sex with young boys rather than awarded children support watch what happens.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Free will. Is it true? Because if it is not true, then this gender can do what ever they want and it is our fault for getting in the mix. If it is true, then as stated already in this thread they are completely at fault for freely choosing to behave that way.
Question 1: Given this red pill knowledge you have now, looking back, at any moment in your life, have you ever, once, witnessed a girl making a decision that does not fit in with the red pill knowledge you have attained now? Looking back, honestly do any of their actions surprise you now? All they had been able to do in the past is break down the blue pill version you had in your mind about them. Does this mean they were acting out of free will or as biological agents in a field in which they were subject to what surrounded them?
Question 2: If free will is an illusion, and divergence from the pattern is reliant on a negative stimulus that diverts the course of action of a human, then how can we expect a gender that is placed within the confines of a system that does not offer negative stimuli in a serious enough dose to alter the pattern of this gender? Choices are real, but they are reliant on personal history and an external stimulus.
Question 3: If free will is true, then NAWALT. There must be women out there that are free enough of their own biological patterns to be able to break free and make the right choices regardless of what is going on around her and in her history. So the chances of free will are looking pretty slim here…
My stipulation on the issue of ‘female nature made her do it’: Yes, female nature made her act in certain ways, but also yes we also need them to be responsible for their own actions. I completely agree with OP, we need to engender the surpassing nature in women. The problem is how exactly are we going to do this, with sticks? Because ultimately we need them to believe that they did it of their own choice, even though the only way is to continuously offer negative stimuli that is relevant enough to force a change in the pattern.
eg. Negative stimuli from the past may have been shame and disrespect from fellow town people about her actions. Now she can just move towns, big deal.
Another example might be that she could have been threatened to be broken up with by her husband and left on the streets as a beggar. Big deal these days right? She’ll get half his stuff, half his money, child support payments, etc. In fact, we would call this an incentive.
Can society really let a woman hit rock bottom and change her ways? And if it does, and she is forced into a change, does its stick? Ok enough rambling today hah
I thought that somewhere in a woman’s brain/conscience there was a part of them that knew it ought to take responsibility for doing s~~~ty things, but didn’t because society always gives them a free pass. And it’s low, mind you, that they always use that pass.
Now I seriously question whether women have the capacity for conscience in any serious capacity, to feel any real remorse. It may simply not be there. Some state of affairs.
Society: I refuse your stick and carrot. If you try to beat or shame me you'd better take me down first time. If I want smoke blown up my ass I'll buy a cigar and a length of hose.
Women don’t blame everything on “female nature”. They only do that when they can’t blame men for their f~~~ups. Anything to avoid taking any actual responsibility.
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