Being Single: Pros and Cons

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Anonymous wrote:

My friend, coming from a yet married man: there are no “pros” in marriage, it is all misery with random crumbs of happiness. And even that gets bitter when you consider the price.
The only good thing in marriage is that you learn to appreciate being single.

Yes, marriage does provide an EXCELLENT frame of reference as to why and how marriage sucks !!!

Unfortunately, many single men that have never endured the BONDS of holy slavery can’t truly appreciate what they have. I was guilty of the same type of thinking before I got married. I really thought I was missing out on something. I just had no idea that the stuff I was missing out on was just misery in all its varied forms.

I will always have this crappy marriage to look back upon when and if any blue pill notions start crossing my mind.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[SamsquanchParticipant 4226]

Do you think it would be easier to take care of a wife + kids or just yourself? I know what you mean, life doesn’t stop, if you can’t work, you can’t make $$, you can’t survive. We’re all in the same boat on that one. Having a wife and kids will only cost you more money, which means more time you’ll have to work.

[RhettParticipant 637]

Anonymous wrote:

What you yern for is a friend. The problem is a women can never be your friend. A woman will never have your back. That is sad yes, but unfortunetly it is just the simple truth.You would have these same challanges, but with the added burdon of a women telling you its all just not good enough. Sorry Man.

A dog will love you, allways be your friend. Unfortunatly thought, they dont know how to drive.

I said it before in a previous post and I’ll say it again, just as reptiles are not pets women can’t be lovers or friends to men or even to themselves. Dogs are way better friends than any woman and a dog will have your back not hide behind it.

Single guys come home, look at what’s in the fridge, and go to bed. Married guys come home, look at what’s in bed, and go to the fridge.......But the best representative of MGTOW is…………… an empty chair,.

[Anonymous 43]

pros- everything

cons- nothing

end of story

[President CamachoParticipant 941]

I’ll admit that I sometimes get tired of jerking it, but the last time I was with a woman I couldn’t get erect. This has happened to me three or four different times now. Since I’m still a virgin (and turning 30 next month) I’m wondering if it’s even necessary anymore.

I’ve never had a relationship but my older brother has been in tons of them, I always remember being puzzled about it because he seemed so frustrated all the time. It never really seemed like there was any benefit for him other than sex (which everyone tells me is great but I wouldn’t know). Nowadays, though, he doesn’t get in relationships anymore and seems like he’s mastered the art of getting what he wants out of women since he never seems to pay for anything. Essentially he’s a Chad while I’m at the opposite end of the spectrum. In spite of that, we’ve always gotten along great.

My situation not changing over the years is something I try to use to my advantage every day.

A Western marriage that survives in the current year is an act of mercy and compassion by the woman.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

I think Eddie Murphy summed it up pretty well in Raw :

Because you waited five months for it.

lf you’re starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this:

“Goddamn, that’s the best cracker I ever ate in my life!

“That ain’t no regular cracker, was it? What was that, a Saltine?

“Goddamn, that was delicious.

“That wasn’t no Saltine. That was… That was a Ritz. That wasn’t a Ritz?

“God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life.

“Can I have another one, please? Please, one more.”

Then you get married, because you think you’ve found the bomb.

Have the same crackers every day for a year.

And you roll over one day and be like:

“Hey, I just got some regular old crackers.”

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Find or develop good male friends that would help you out in a pinch. You can start the goodwill by doing favors for people. They will “owe” you favors in return so you can ask them for help. Obviously this isn’t the main point of having friends, but friends are there to help you if you need it.

Probably the only woman you really could count on to help you is maybe your mother. Your wife would bitch and definitely not help willingly

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[GrumpyParticipant]

Its all a matter of perspective IMHO.

Being single, unattached, non committed is frikking awesome for me.
Being single, all successes and failures are mine, no one can take credit nor assign blame but me. Each and every asset is mine, no claims from anyone are attached to them.
Nobody to rely on my utility but myself, and the friggin tax critter.

If I had enough of a s~~~ty job. I leave (which I just did), there is no pressure nor guilt laid out on me by someone who relies on me to support them. I still have assets and am financially secure enough to not “have” to work again until next spring/summer.
That is a definitive Pro

Life has its ups and downs, I have to do everything for myself, but so does every other person who values their lifestyle.
S~~~ needs to be taken care of and it is easier and better to handle it yourself, knowing it will get done, than try to rely on someone else to do it and possibly not have it done. Because “someone else” knows YOU will do it if they don’t, they suffer no penalty because the odds are pretty good if the your name is on a bill, you are 100% responsible regardless if there is another name on the bill or not.
How many divorced guys here remember seeing the bills in both their names and their ex wives names, yet only HE is primarily if not solely responsible?

If I had a “spouse” I wouldn’t be able to do that, my savings and assets would also be “hers” and then her guilt trips about being a man, supporting blah blah blah blah

Marriage/relationships/attachments for me are synonymous to working at a s~~~ty job, for s~~~ty wages, with s~~~ty people. Where I literally have to pay my employer to work there, pay all the bills, pay for all her additional demands, and then maybe get a f~~~ing allowance for my own needs, yet have to spend that allowance on “household” s~~~.
Does that NOT sound like an absolute CON?

Just my 2 cents

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Mr. CrowleyParticipant 384]

FunInTheSun wrote:

a female companion that understands how I feel, will put her energy into making my life easier, and won’t make me feel horrible because I made a mistake, said something stupid, or neglected to get something done. Someone who will accommodate instead of interrogate. Someone who will aid instead of jade.

You mean my dog?

She’s the best dog ever!! I tell her that often. She doesn’t speak english, so she thinks me telling her that is defined as ‘bring rope toy to master! we will play for many hours!’

And then we do. I love her. I can put all the time and energy I want into her. Or, I can do my own thing and she just follows me around. She doesn’t care either way.

You see, as a man we require something to love. Something that depends on our care. Its making yourself balanced that will keep the depression away.

I’m in a similar situation, and I get lonely sometimes. But that’s ok. I’ve found posting on this forum a lot is therapy to me, and it works.

You could take the easy way out and go back to the plantation. But before you even think to open that gate, remember this. There isn’t a single person you know who passed back into the plantation and it turned out for the better. Not one. The house always wins. Otherwise, it wouldn’t exist.

Punks- Not Feeling Lucky Since 1971

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

I think Eddie Murphy summed it up pretty well in Raw :

Because you waited five months for it.

lf you’re starving and somebody throw you a cracker, you gonna be like this:

“Goddamn, that’s the best cracker I ever ate in my life!

“That ain’t no regular cracker, was it? What was that, a Saltine?

“Goddamn, that was delicious.

“That wasn’t no Saltine. That was… That was a Ritz. That wasn’t a Ritz?

“God, that was the best cracker I ever ate in my life.

“Can I have another one, please? Please, one more.”

Then you get married, because you think you’ve found the bomb.

Have the same crackers every day for a year.

And you roll over one day and be like:

“Hey, I just got some regular old crackers.”

After a while, they don’t even want to give you the cracker.

Then they start scraping off the salt.

Then they start making you beg for the stale crumbs.

If that doesn’t, work they’ll just give it to you all dirty and smelly.

Eventually, you just completely avoid the dam cracker.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

paying a maid to clean my house

When I get to that level of existence, single life will be a bit better. Plus: having more money for takeout. I like Thai food, but it’s kind of pricey.

If every city in the USA had a red light district with pretty girls in massage parlours (with happy endings), I’d probably never date again.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[ResidentEvil7Participant 9548]

Pros: I’ll have money that I can use to pay myself and my freedoms. I will be able to have the man cave house all to myself (when I get there). I can (already do) drink milk from the jug, drink beer whenever I want, listen to my KMFDM music as loud as I can. I don’t have to spend on her and some wanty kids. I don’t have to be obligated to anything except my own lifestyle. So basically, the pros are: freedom, stressless life, and independence and maybe financial security.

Cons: I wouldn’t know, not being in the game in the first place. If having a badgering mother and obnoxious aunts is anything like having a girlfriend or wife, I rather be single and happy.

https://themanszone.webs.com/

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FunInTheSun wrote:

In my experience, being single is a blessing, but sometimes it’s depressing.

It’s a good thing to have my own personal space (my apartment), and to manage my money (without someone else spending it). But it’s a challenge to be self-reliant. There are times when I wished someone would pick me up from work when my car is in the shop, help me pay the bills, or just hang out with me when I’m going places.

Interesting thought.

I often wonder if men invented washing machines, microwaves and dishwashers to make their women’s/wives lives easier? Or their OWN.

What you’re talking about here is companionship. You don’t need a “woman” for those things. In fact you can’t even RELY on a woman for those things. Women are not interested in helping you with self-reliance or making it easier.

In their minds, you are a man who exists to assist HER with those things.
Not the other way around.

That’s right. The very things you could actually USE a woman around for, are the very things she expects FROM you — and resents you for — when you really need her most for actual “support” and help.

Women will not be “there for you”.
You are expected to be their for HER.

I don’t really enjoy putting it to you this way, but this is what I tell myself when I am having a similar thought: “Snap out of it, Keymaster. If you think some kind of equitable balance is achievable here, you are SORELY mistaken”.

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Once, I took a female on a really great road trip. Through the desert, page Arizona, saw a bit of the Grand Canyon, national park and Las Vegas. I did everything. I drove. Filled the tank. Surprised her. Planned it all. Paid for everything. Booked everything ahead of time. She was blown away.

Finally we are relaxing poolside in the sun at the hotel in Vegas.
AAAAAAHHHHHHH.

I said “Can you please go get us a drink. Charge it to the room and take my wallet in case you can’t”.

She says…..

“In a few minutes. I just want to relax here for a bit.”

So I said…..

“Let me put put to you anther way. After all I have done these last few days, entertaining you and carting you around at my expense….. Let me rephrase. Go. Get. Me. A. Drink. And something to eat. RIGHT NOW. I’ll have the crocodile sandwich. And make it snappy.”

That’s what it took to make the point.
ONLY THEN did she begin to understand.

As far as I am concerned, she should have JUMPED at the opportunity when I asked her for that one thing. After what I did for her, if asked her to cluck and lay an egg, she should have happily squatted and asked “what color?”. But women just don’t see it that way.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Keymaster wrote:

Women will not be “there for you”.
You are expected to be their for HER.

After my resident sweety was a stay ay home do nothing mother for many years, and the youngest was in school fulltime, I told her it was time for her to go back to work full time. She was hesitant to even acknowledge that she had to work, but she was like well maybe part time. I politely, or not so politely, informed her that if anyone was going to work part time, it would be me. She looked at me cross eyed, “Yeah, but you’re the man, you have to work full time”. So much for our 50/50 partnership that never existed anyways. The point of the story is:

Keymaster wrote:

Women will not be “there for you”.
You are expected to be their for HER.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[TwistParticipant]

And, in my decades of experience, if they happen to actually do something for you, it will be with a p~~~y sense of resentment. To the point where you just tell yourself it would have been better to walk the 4 miles home…

Now limited to my brother and friends when I need a hand, I really miss that p~~~y resentment…. HA.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

No idea what the cons are. Honestly.
Peace.

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[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

Cons: Loneliness
Pros: Solitude

Once you finally learn to embrace your own company and use your time for your own benefit, it becomes a wonderful gift that you will not want to surrender for the sake of jumping through hoops for scraps of leftover sex.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

Being alone and self-reliant has been a learning process for me. I’ve been totally alone for about 2 1/2 years. I’ve spent a major part of my life living with family members and roommates. I’m used to being in situations where I’m asking people in my household for favors or doing favors in return.

Right now I feel like a lone soldier fighting against the world for my daily survival. I think this is the chapter of my life where I ought to be totally focused on doing whatever it takes to improve myself (character traits, financial stuff, job skills).

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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