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Turns out my MGTOW hobby raised some questioning among the most prominent like TFM and Paul Elam
Now I’m getting my own response videos like no big deal
He almost makes me start my own YT channel
Paul’s arguing that I don’t stand a chance around a womanP.S. Some beer is definitely involved in the decision making right here
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
He almost makes me start my own YT channel
i hope you do russky !
you would be great .
if you have the time and ability, why not ?
easy for me to say….
btw, right on for your comments !You do NOT hate women. They just ARE.
word !
Been there, done that.
A month ago, some mangina coat f~~~er went searching for Mgtow videos and stumbled across my video titled “Do not take a relations~~~”.
The s~~~ nugget posted a response video that he took down after just 5 days.
In the comment section of the video were many different anti feminist wallet seekers (including Shoeonhead) playing the shaming card and exposing themselves as blatant frauds.Started out with a normal pulse… my heart rate increased when he took the shot and attempted the “appeal to ridicule”…. was imagining dumping 10 paragraphs here…. but then stabilized (and he redeemed) as soon as he said “For f~~~ sake – let her LEAVE”.
So then I paused.
I agree that’s correct. “For f~~~ sake – let her LEAVE”.@russky is also correct because there ARE plenty of men who will line up to grovel for her, but that is excellent revenge and payback which requires no effort from you. She will punish and damage herself if she chooses the groveling weakling.
“Competing” with the other 99% of blue pill men is EASY.
LET HER HAVE HIM.Give her the weak smiling “beta” or whatever you want to call him, because that man will make her sick. And while he’s jumping through hoops and doing all kinds of mental gymnastics to please and appease her, she will still be fingering herself thinking about YOU – the guy who didn’t let her get away with anything. The guy who REFUSED to bow and serve. The one with the self respect.
I have exes who are married, and I am permanently in their heads forever. Especially the one who once said “I want someone who will make me the number one thing in his life”.
“Then you should have him. Good luck to you.” I said.
( knowing she will eventually resent and despise him for it – just like the Huffington Post confession above – but it won’t be me. )
She got her wish of course, and I still heard from her years after the wedding – on Valentine’s Day(!) to boot. I imagined being her husband , and what I would do if I knew my wife who I kneeled down for in the wedding photo (I saw it) was writing to an ex from years prior on Valentine’s Day.
Better him than me.
It took PE +10 minutes to finally use the word “investment”. He is not in a position to criticize men who don’t even wish to invest. While he thinks refusing to invest at all is a silly way to minimize loss, that’s still what it is. A loss. Whether it “devastates” you – or not.
This video is just spilled salt. Take a pinch and throw it over your shoulder.
It doesn’t require a response.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous0Turns out my MGTOW hobby raised some questioning among the most prominent like TFM and Paul Elam
Now I’m getting my own response videos like no big deal
He almost makes me start my own YT channel
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P.S. Some beer is definitely involved in the decision making right here
Russky,
I think Elam is being too simplistic in responding to your comment in the video. He criticizes your comments and says that “a real man would never walk on eggshells around a woman. As soon she starts acting entitled, you dump her like flicking a booger out the car window.”
But it ain’t necessarily that easy. Some women are good at being the perfect little companion for a while, at least during the honeymoon phase. So a guy invests in the relationship, thinking he has a good one. And then when the woman starts occasionally acting antsy and disdainful, the guy just hopes it’s a temporary thing and puts up with it for a bit. Because he’s invested. And so on. Eventually the guy starts realizing that he’s doing a lot of walking on eggshells all the time, but by now he’s in pretty deep. It’s no longer so easy to just give the gal the boot “like flicking a booger out the car window.”
Anyway, I’m just saying that I agree with you, Russky. Having been through it multiple times, I realize that these gals have a lot of tricks up their sleeves: They have a lot of ways to get you to invest and then to guilt-trip you and keep you coming back for more. And guys want to believe and invest in the relationship. But in the end, it turns out that it’s just easiest to just say: F~~~ ’em all. Keep them the hell out of your life in the first place, and it all ceases to be a problem.
If I were into debating people like in my blue pill years, I’d make a Youtube account for the very purpose of making videos.
But, I just don’t see the need in making videos on MGTOW. This website is the best place to talk about such topics. Youtube is just a gynocentric mess all around.
But I hope you like strip clubs. For some reason DBAs (Database Administrators for you non IT guys) love strip clubs.
Ha, I’ve always hated strip clubs. I figure if you can’t jerk off while watching the strippers, what’s the point of going into a strip club in the first place?
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
Anonymous1The blue pills are more than welcome to em.
All my past relationships ended with the ex, her family and friends hating me with a full on passion. There is one simple reason for this – I never let them get away with S~~~. I ALWAYS called them on the BS. It may sounds tit for tat but do something s~~~ty towards me and i’ll do it right back.
I don’t recommend this these days. The easiest option is to not get into a relationship, you can’t win anyway.
One ex insisted on not being contacted when she was on a night out with her friends (I thought this was perfectly reasonable), however if i was with friends I had to be contactable at all times or there would be hell to pay. My phone would ring ever hour or so (such was her insecurity and fear of me meeting someone else). One night met a few buddy’s at the bar and switched my phone off. She turned up at my house in the morning, screaming the street down. I laughed and told her to p~~~ off home, which she did, eventually.
The f~~~ cares what Piggy Paul has to say?
Fast forwarded to the last ten seconds and there it is: the inevitable money grubbing. Piggy Paul isn’t in this for men, and he sure as f~~~ isn’t in it for MGTOW. He’s in it for the money.
Why waste the precious seconds of your life listening to anything Piggy Paul has to say? You can’t expect anything resembling the truth from him. Speaking the actual truth might scare away some of his female or tradcon donors.
Anonymous11All my past relationships ended with the ex, her family and friends hating me with a full on passion.
Me too!!
I asked one ex many years later why she did it. The answer was that I did not chase after her. Once I cut bait, you never see me again. They really hate that.
Elam is smarmy. He does make some logical good points here and there, but he comes across to me as a know it all.
Anonymous1I asked one ex many years later why she did it. The answer was that I did not chase after her. Once I cut bait, you never see me again. They really hate that.
I’ve lost count of how many times i’ve heard the phrase “you never fight for me” – usually after they’ve just pulled something really s~~~ty and i’ve shown em the door.
Shaming language bulls~~~.
let her LEAVE
Make it clear to her that “she can end the relationship and LEAVE anytime she wants”
Most of the time this will correct her behavior, but be prepared when she attempts to call your “bluff”.
She will “walk out the door” while attempting to shame/guilt/criticize you, just smile and say “bye”.
Then:
DO NOT CONTACT HER IN ANY WAY!
DO NOT RESPOND TO HER IN ANY WAY!
No phone calls, no texts, no email, no facebook, no twitter, nothing!
Most of the time, she will move on the to next man that she has “in reserve”.
But, if she shows up at your door “to try again”, remember this and tell her:
“One chance per woman per lifetime. period.”
Then close the door in her face.What everyone is calling an investment is what accountants refer to as a sunk cost. And when you are evaluating what to do in the future in the accounting world, you ignore sunk costs. The only calculation that matters is the future cost vs. future benefit. But you ignore any costs that have already been spent because you don’t have a time machine.
Women bank on the fact that you will look at your past “investment” into the relationship. And blue pill guys do. Hell I used to do it. That’s probably one of the biggest differences between blue pill and red pill guys.
Order the good wine
She got her wish of course, and I still heard from her years after the wedding – on Valentine’s Day(!)
Pretty sure you meant MGTOW day, but point taken.
When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.
Anonymous1The only calculation that matters is the future cost vs. future benefit
Don’t throw good money after bad.
A good point. I really like the analogy.
Chasing losses in the gambling world leads to bankruptcy.
Anonymous0What everyone is calling an investment is what accountants refer to as a sunk cost. And when you are evaluating what to do in the future in the accounting world, you ignore sunk costs. The only calculation that matters is the future cost vs. future benefit. But you ignore any costs that have already been spent because you don’t have a time machine.
Women bank on the fact that you will look at your past “investment” into the relationship. And blue pill guys do. Hell I used to do it. That’s probably one of the biggest differences between blue pill and red pill guys.
I mentioned investment in my previous post. But personally I was probably referring to something more like the concept of “personal boundaries.” It’s a psychobabble concept.
People with *strong* personal boundaries are good at keeping their partner at a proper distance. And they can spot quickly when their partner is testing their boundaries (s~~~-testing) and push them away. Elam was basically talking about the need for men to have strong personal boundaries in the video.
My own problem is that I have *weak* or spongey personal boundaries when it comes to LTRs. If I try to set strong boundaries and keep women at a distance in a relationship, I don’t really feel like I’m in a relationship at all. So I lower my boundaries and let women in close (that is, I make a big emotional investment in them). But then when the relationship fails, the failure ends up cutting me deep because I let them in so close. Enough painful wounds of that nature, and I say, “F~~~ it. No more women in my life. It’s too much hassle and pain when the break-up occurs.”
And so that becomes MY version of the red pill: Just say no to women altogether.
But maybe I should learn to build stronger boundaries. In the video in the OP, Elam talks about using “values” to establish one’s boundaries. Maybe I should check out more of his videos on that topic.
Anonymous1What everyone is calling an investment is what accountants refer to as a sunk cost. And when you are evaluating what to do in the future in the accounting world, you ignore sunk costs. The only calculation that matters is the future cost vs. future benefit. But you ignore any costs that have already been spent because you don’t have a time machine.
Women bank on the fact that you will look at your past “investment” into the relationship. And blue pill guys do. Hell I used to do it. That’s probably one of the biggest differences between blue pill and red pill guys.
I mentioned investment in my previous post. But personally I was probably referring to something more like the concept of “personal boundaries.” It’s a psychobabble concept.
People with *strong* personal boundaries are good at keeping their partner at a proper distance. And they can spot quickly when their partner is testing or pushing at their boundaries (s~~~-testing) and push them away. Elam was basically talking about the need to have strong personal boundaries in the video.
My own problem is that I have *weak* or spongey personal boundaries when it comes to LTRs. If I try to set strong boundaries and keep women at a distance in a relationship, I don’t really feel like I’m in a relationship at all. So I lower the boundaries and let women in close (that is, I make a big emotional investment in them). But then when the relationship fails, the failure ends up cutting me deep because I let them in so close. Enough painful wounds of that nature, and I say, “F~~~ it. No more women in my life. It’s too much hassle and pain when the break-up occurs.”
And so that becomes MY version of the red pill: Just say no to women altogether.
But maybe I should learn to build stronger boundaries. In the video in the OP, Elam talks about using “values” to set one’s boundaries. Maybe I should check out more of his videos on that topic.
This is only an analogy, brother. Personal boundaries can equate to money (infact they do in the literal sense)
Go easy on yourself, fella. The fact you’re even here shows you have boundaries.
Also. You can’t have a relationship with a woman without having your boundaries tested. The 2 are synonymous.
I personally don’t want my boundaries tested, so I stick to the ocassional one night stand. No relationships, but you already said that.
Anonymous0This is only an analogy, brother. Personal boundaries can equate to money (infact they do in the literal sense)
Go easy on yourself, fella. The fact you’re even here shows you have boundaries.
Thanks for your kind words, but I’m good. My life is on track and I’m in a good place.
I’m just playing with some ideas here. I always knew I had spongey boundaries. Sometimes it worked to my advantage, sometimes to my disadvantage. But I’m figuring maybe this discussion is an opportunity for me to learn something new. Open up my mind, try some new things, maybe tighten up my boundaries a bit.
Also. You can’t have a relationship with a woman without having your boundaries tested. The 2 are synonymous.
I personally don’t want my boundaries tested, so I stick to the ocassional one night stand. No relationships.
Yeah, it’s definitely interesting to look at it as a boundary thing. Women are always going to test the boundaries.
BTW for you IT bound guys.. was talking to the top dog.
They cannot find database, ETL, web app and security guys.
They have to go to India.You need to focus on the big game s~~~…the closer you are to the databases..the better the pay.
do they go to India because they can (work remotely) and it’s cheaper, or do they do it because they can’t find any local talent? I have reservations against learning something that can and will be outsourced. I almost want to focus on something that can’t be outsourced – like hardware administration and/or repair
proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
Anonymous1This is only an analogy, brother. Personal boundaries can equate to money (infact they do in the literal sense)
Go easy on yourself, fella. The fact you’re even here shows you have boundaries.
Thanks for your kind words, but I’m good. My life is on track and I’m in a good place.
I’m just playing with some ideas here. I always knew I had spongey boundaries. Sometimes it worked to my advantage, sometimes to my disadvantage. But I’m figuring maybe this discussion is an opportunity for me to learn something new. Open up my mind, try some new things, maybe tighten up my boundaries a bit.
Also. You can’t have a relationship with a woman without having your boundaries tested. The 2 are synonymous.
I personally don’t want my boundaries tested, so I stick to the ocassional one night stand. No relationships.
Yeah, it’s definitely interesting to look at it as a boundary thing. Women are always going to test the boundaries.
A lot of guys on here push the “one woman, one chance, one lifetime”
I’ve always been a cold man once a bitch has shown her true colours but pushing the “one chance” method is something i’ve struggled with (not even sure how realistic it is)
These days I prefer ‘no woman, no chance….and certainly no lifetime’ much safer.
That being said, a good lay every now and then is no issue for me.
TwoStep:
I wasn’t picking on you about using the term investment. I just wanted to throw the concept out there (again) about a sunk cost.
So many people will say buy a stock at $100, watch it go to $80, and then hold on just hoping to get back to $100. Instead, they should look at the stock at $80 and ask where it is going from there. If they think it will rebound then keep it, but if it doesn’t have a good story going forward then dump it and take your loss. And we do the same thing with relationships.
As far as boundaries go, I understand what you are saying completely. My problem is I’m too nice of a guy and tend to get taken advantage of sometimes. That said, I’m not going to change who I am at my core just because other people suck. I’ll be nice until I get burned, and then I’m done. But I can still lay my head down at night and sleep like a baby. How some user asshole sleeps at night is beyond me, but that’s their problem.
Which probably explains all anti-anxiety meds that so many women take.
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