Backpage: The police will hunt you for patronizing prostitutes in the U.S.

[Anonymous 3]

Rockmaninoff wrote:

Haven’t you banned people before for suggesting that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote?

In my experience in this site? NO!

Keymaster actually is very patient and gives lots of chances to people before any banning occurs.

And none for women’s right to vote.

I would classify people banned in two categories:
1 – the crazies that want to control women, either by physical force or psychological torture.
2 – the problematic that start fights and create arguments for no good reason, insulting people who sometimes only want to help them.

These banned people are one of two:
1 – crazy problematic individuals that would cause strife and destroy the site;
OR
2 – infiltrators, of false flag operations intended to soil MGTOW, or that lose their s~~~ before achieving their malignant goals.

The women’s right to vote argument is actually pretty commonly used. What made you say that? Do you have a problem with KM?

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

But women shouldn’t be allowed to vote!

lol

I would ask to back up that statement so it’s not such a sweeping blind declaration, but this page is filled with excellent reasons why already. I wouldn’t even know how to argue that!

Maybe Rockmaninoff can.

@rockmaninoff why do you think women should be allowed to vote?

Anonymous wrote:

Keymaster actually is very patient and gives lots of chances to people before any banning occurs.

On the real side… Thank you for noticing.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I’m not an attorney, but it seems to me that you have to be careful with “paying the woman to leave” defense. (Maybe Pete could enlighten us)
When paying the woman to leave, there is still economic gain or opportunity associated with a sexual act. I don’t know how the courts would interpret this.

I personally just avoid all women. However, if I wanted to find an escort, I probably would ask her up front if she were a police officer or was employed in any law enforcement capacity before saying anything else.

Prostitution

“Prostitution is defined as a criminal act that includes the trade, barter, or exchange of sexual acts with the hopes of the receipt of economic gain or opportunity. The sexual acts expressed within legislation addressing the act of Prostitution can include copulation, stimulation, copulation, or intercourse. The notion of ‘gain’ expressed in the definition of Prostitutionmay vary in its classification, due to the fact that the implicit nature of any ‘gain’ will itself vary with regard to personal circumstance case-by-case basis. While the nature of products or services exchanged within the activity of Prostitution will vary, the qualification of Prostitution is contingent in a commercial exchange for sexual favor(s)”

Solicitation

“Within the scope of a Prostitution charge, Solicitation is defined as the interpersonal criminal act involving a solicitor who presents an opportunity or prospect to another individual – or individuals. Within the expressed solicitation of Prostitution, Prostitution can be defined as the intention proposition to participate in sexual activity resulting in the illegal and unlawful exchange of goods, services, or monies; Due to the fact that prostitution is rooted in Solicitation, an individual can be charged with prostitution regardless of participation in any actual sexual activity

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Prostitution

“Prostitution is defined as a criminal act that includes the trade, barter, or exchange of sexual acts with the hopes of the receipt of economic gain or opportunity.

So a woman who spreads her legs after a man buys her a diamond necklace is a whore?

Brilliant.

—

Now film it and tell her you’re filming it and it becomes “porn”, which is now “legal”.

This is why the “legal” system is entirely f~~~ed.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[RennieParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

I would ask to back up that statement so it’s not such a sweeping blind declaration, but this page is filled with excellent reasons why already. I wouldn’t even know how to argue that!

They shouldn’t be allowed to vote, because the vast majority of them are not responsible, or mature enough to handle it.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Of all the s~~~ going on in the world, all the suffering, killing, violence, people are worried about somebody paying for sex. Priorities are all f~~~ed up.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[kythesisParticipant 17]

Anonymous wrote:

ACTUALLY BEHAVING LIKE IT’S THEIR RIGHT.

Haunting audio. I said the exact same thing to my last ex that the DJ said. “You’re free to do whatever you want, but if you want to have male friends and go to clubs by yourself than we’re done.” I’m not controlling, but actions have consequences if that’s what you want. I’m not going to beat you, I’m just going to leave. My ex ended up seeing a guy behind my back anyway and I left.

That lady is talking about it’s immoral to kill a baby, not that I’m disagreeing. But apparently it’s fine to cheat with some dude in a car you don’t even know their name and it’s moral to lie and tell some other dude it’s his baby so you can suck his blood like a vampire for your f~~~up. I had a coworker that went through this, He raised a kid and found out when the kid was a teenager that it wasn’t his and his wife or ex wife f~~~ing knew the whole time. From my understanding, In France a woman can list some random dude as the father and he has no legal recourse to prove it’s not or to get his name off the birth certificate. He’s just stuck with child support. I mean f~~~, you could get stuck with child support from a woman you’ve NEVER HAD SEX WITH. That’ll never get abused. Oh see that dude in the new Bently… He’s the father. There was people trying to change the laws and one of the arguments they were trying to throw out to keep the law the way it is was something like “well aren’t all men collective fathers, does it really matter.”

[HitmanParticipant]

You have to be very careful with prostitution.
First question is are you a police officer. .
If she says no and actually is, it’s entrapment. .case will be dismissed. .
Record it.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

And not every man should be entrusted with the voting franchise. Take our case example. He actually thought he could get sex for a big mac and fries. He’s clearly a clinical idiot. Probably way down the scale. And that’s the only hit they had.

And human trafficking? Give me a break. I’m not saying I’ve been to a pro but one told me that they move around the country as part of a kind of rotation that some company, pimps?, arrange.

Is the movement of adult women who choose to engage in an activity that harms no one but has demonstrable health benefits sex trafficking? Give me a break.

Some countries are civilized and prostitution is legal. The US is f~~~ing ridiculous.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[anonymousyamParticipant 4605]

How come more men are not getting their doors busted in and arrested by the pigs over paying for a wedding, kids, marriage, labor and gifts? this is all prostitution at its finest since if you don’t keep paying the bitch she leaves and denies you services.

Now in reality getting a hooker is illegal for 3 reasons,

1 It is not very Christian to pay someone to have sex since fornication is a sin in religion and this early country was inspired by religion in a degree (not that this is a Christian nation but it was influenced by it).

2 Fat c~~~s don’t like it since it is about paying for hotness and it lowers marriage down since why buy the cow when i can get more variety and hotter chicks for cheaper? it puts the price of pussy down even lower.

3 Cop pigs like filling more quotas for arrests to make more money off of this.

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Awakened wrote:

Don’t the police and courts have ANYTHING else to do ???

Answer: Hunting down murders HARD
Stopping a robbery HARD
Taking on drug gangs HARD
Busting a John EASY

Does that clear things up?

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

About the I’m paying you to leave bit

As a technical matter the KM is right however most johns are busted by undercover cops and guess what—they lie AND Judges will not believe you—they will believe the cop. So I wouldn’t try this.

Best strategy is have nothing to do with any woman for any reason.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

As a clever retired lawyer one other thought occurs to me. Most prostitution statues read like contract law there must be: Offer, Acceptance and Consideration, e.g money BUT consideration can be ANYHTING OF value so if you try the I’m paying you to leave a smart attorney would say: due to the unbelievable skanky vileness of the whore her leaving WAS consideration for the sex.

You know one has to spend thousands of dollars and study for three years in order to learn how to think in this f~~~ed up manner. Sorry.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Keymaster wrote:

This is why you must make it TOTALLY KNOWN the you are not “paying her for sex”, you’re paying her to LEAVE. . You can even record it on your phone.

“Honey I would NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS pay you for sex because no woman is worth it, but let’s f~~~ and when I am done, I will pay you $X to get the f~~~ out and I never want to see you again.”.

Then you’re not paying for sex.

You’re crystal clear that you’re paying her so you don’t have to date her, call her again, talk to her, listen to her, take her out, sit across from her or tolerate her while listening to her stupid hopes and dreams. That’s perfectly legal. Just like divorce prostitution is legal: You’re paying the whore to LEAVE.

Paying for sex is never worth it — or even necessary!
But I have heard some divorced men say paying her to go away was worth every penny.

Women don’t know how to leave after a good f~~~. The whores will even come back later – 30 years later – to collect on a f~~~ they THINK should have been paid for. They think “men pay for sex”, but you don’t pay her to marry you either. You pay her to go away.

Not 30 years, but just after she pop a baby out

Prostitute get child support

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Honestly, on this issue, with prostitution, at least here in the West, we are really really behind.

Let’s look to Amsterdam, who legalized marijuana and prostitution. How are things there? Pretty f~~~ing good.

Somewhat similar to how things used to be here in the West.

Look at any Western film, and you have certain key locations. The barbershop. The tailor. The saloon. Gambling houses. And the brothel.

It is sad, that in our attempt to become modern. We have lost our way in so many respects.

This knowledge that MGTOW has, as many have pointed out, is the old knowledge our ancestor had. It was well understood. But lost, through this cultural modernization.

MGTOW have found it, and slowly, it will balance the terms.

Brothels, were a legitimate business. Legally recognized, and no one was shamed for going out for a toss, with a nice young girl. Who would do things, the old ball and chain would never even speak about, never mind perform.

It is a sad state of affairs.

Prostitution, is one of the oldest professions out there. That it has become illegal here in the West. While we sit and watch in our films, about a time where it was perfectly legal. Gives us some insight into how far we have devolved out of where we used to be.

Amsterdam, being forward thinking and intelligent. For various reasons. Financial. Economic. Police there reported that they were happy that they did not have to chase after pot smokers and men wanting to pay for sex, as it gave them time to focus on actual crimes.

My point. If they legalized prostitution here in the West. And they are slowly legalizing marijuana. Well then it could be paradise all over again.

A woman has very few commodities. Give men the freedom to pay for sex, and for women to bank on this commodity, as it is, by way of a few hundred if not thousands of years, time tested and proven form or legitimate monetary exchange.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[HitmanParticipant]

You can take a trip to Nevada for the brothels. ..

[StentorianParticipant 1690]

Hitman wrote:

You can take a trip to Nevada for the brothels. ..

At least there is Nevada. That’s a positive. And slowly the laws around pot are being changed. That’s also good.

It’s just silly, to have to run around hiding grass, and evade the cops when looking to hire a special lady friend.

A peculiar time we live in. Where I seem to need permission from the government, regarding what I smoke, and where I put my peacemaker.

“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

Brothels in Pahrump, NV…. but not in Las Vegas or Reno — prostitution is not legal in Las Vegas or Reno.

Hombre

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

Put an expensive ring on her finger, become enslaved with a mortgage, support her, pay off her college loans, pay her bills, maintain a minimum $250k life insurance policy, etc. . .

And she is called a ‘wife’ and the bread crumb, boring, obligatory sex she has with her financial slave is considered legal.

Give another woman a few hundred dollars for just sex, and an illegal act has occurred.

There is no doubt that women in general that prefer the first situation mentioned above aka the charade and facade of marriage – are actually against prostitution being legal, because they do not want the actual, semi worthless value of a vagina to be readily available for a lower price on the open market.

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

In defense of Keymaster’s legal argument regarding how a guy could have his case argued in a criminal court and win.

Important to note: When a case goes to trial, a verdict is not reached by a team of judges, attorneys and legal experts:

There are 12 regular people with no real legal background and lives that allow them time to sit on a jury.

So, whether or not Keymaster’s approach would work or not. . . .

OJ was found not guilty by a jury.

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