Are you actively trying to spread MGTOW?

[JinParticipant 77]

there is also another thread like this with others opinions

/forums/topic/spread-mgtow-philosophy/

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

[Long shotParticipant 48]

I do enjoy calling out women on their bulls~~~ and warning others of the dangers of the scam they call a relationship, usually in the form of derision and mockery (usually face to face as I am not a big facebook person. But lately I have noticed a trend in which those who do listen are forbidden from playing with me by their succubi. I guess the biggest issue is the women who “c~~~block” any form of red pill entering the system of their pet sucker.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Long shot wrote:

I do enjoy calling out women on their bulls~~~ and warning others of the dangers of the scam they call a relationship, usually in the form of derision and mockery (usually face to face as I am not a big facebook person. But lately I have noticed a trend in which those who do listen are forbidden from playing with me by their succubi. I guess the biggest issue is the women who “c~~~block” any form of red pill entering the system of their pet sucker.

That reminds me 5 years back, freshly split up, over a year before the divorce, I went to a friends wedding, now you got to remember this is 4 years before I even heard of The Red Pill, or anything like MGTOW, I was talking to another old classmate from years ago, freshly married to a Romanian wife, and I was going through this rationalizing of how to do marriage properly, I proposed that people should get counselling and make an agreement of expectations before marriage, well she whisked him away and I haven’t heard from him ever again, guess she didn’t like me filling his head with “nonsense” I wonder if he’s divorced yet?

Looking back knowing what I know now, could you imagine a newly married wife hearing those words?  “agreement on expectations of what you want out of marriage”  She must have been fuming, what does any woman bring to the table, a decaying pussy, for lifelong provisioning, even after divorce, hmmmm ….. no thanks.

Looking back, I see how I’ve developed, do I understand what women want?

Well not only do I understand what they really want, but what they do to get it, and most importantly, the fact that I don’t, nor ever will, give a f~~~ about what a woman wants ever again.  Unless she wants my glob splashed across her lips, then I’ll oblige, if I’ve got the time and inclination.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Long shotParticipant 48]

Yes and the nights you can get them away from -insert nomme de jour- for a weekend or even a night tend to go down in history. Like someone getting out of prison and just going nuts and its always my fault for misleading them.
I go to more bucks nights than weddings, go figure.

[RoyDalParticipant]

I won’t proselytize. In that sense, I do not actively try to spread MGTOW. I’m just the shy type, I guess. (It reminds me of a line from an old Monty Python skit; “He’s handing out leaflets to the masses.”)

If someone is curious, yes, I’ll explain myself and refer him to sites like this one. “Pull out your smartphone and google it.”

It’s his job to open his own eyes and straighten out his own head. No one else can do it for him.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 11]

I’ve found that most men I come in contact with have not ever entertained they are actually living a delusion. I do not openly mention MGTOW unless I know he his amenable. MGTOW is the anti-thesis of gynocentrism and many have been brainwashed into gynocentrism.

I remember as a young lad in the 70s absolutely being dead against feminism. I could see it for what is was even as a naive child. The reason my handle is CPig is that nearly every 70s sitcom would throw out a “chauvinist pig”, and then the man would simply roll over belly up and urinate on himself.

I’m more subtle. I like to chip around the edges. I am a termite in the MGTOW army chewing away at the structure of gynocentrism. I’ve found teaching about White Knighting to be a fairly easy way to get guys to listen w/o going all in. If one goes spouting off full MGTOW in public, White Knights will jump out of the woodwork. I prefer to work in the shadows and let gynocentrism do the converting work for me. I’m there to apply a finishing coat of nice shiny MGTOW.

[BONEParticipant 448]

Feminism is spreading MGTOW fast enough as it is lol.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FreeGhost wrote:

Are you actively trying to spread MGTOW?

MGTOW is a calling…. and not a “sales pitch”.
Hospitals don’t actively go around shooting people to generate more patients.

Men arrive organically – in their own time – and if the introductions are any indication, almost every 2nd one already lives that way before he gets here. “I had no idea this even existed! I thought I was alone out there! Great to meet you all!”.

We don’t even advertize elsewhere. The effort is not to recruit, but to greet them when they land at the airport so to speak.

About the only “active” thing you can do is stop a wedding.
But more importantly, it pays to internalize it.

In the real world, you keep it to yourself. A secret or a punchline to a joke that nobody else gets. You see a commercial and see right through it. You hear a woman speak and know what she is REALLY saying. You smile and nod, because you know better, but you don’t actually tell her “I am a MGHOW, so cut the s~~~, bitch.”.

FreeGhost wrote:

I have debated with male friends time and time again that they were getting duped, only to be ridiculed.

Exactly the point. You don’t engage in a “debate” with them. You happily sit back in your chair as if to say: “If you say so, sweetie”. Then they begin to wonder what you know that they don’t. You can go back and forth in a flame war if you want, but you won’t accomplish anything.

Which response do you think is more effective?

Going back and forth in comment streams with multiple paragraphs explaining how they are wrong?

Or dropping a simple “MGTOW. Look into it.”.
And your work is done.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[harpo-my-“SON”Participant 2410]

In my situation I have little to worry about in the form of female retaliation. I work in a field that they avoid..elements like it being Dirty, Dangerous and uncomfortable insure I am protected from their presence on a daily basis..I will spread the message, but only when interest is shown…I let them ask my opinion first…I am not scared or ashamed to display the logo or admit to living this way..But  I don’t go out of my way to bring attention to myself..My new motorized bicycle project will display the logo and the 5 letters. Have not decided the size or placement yet…

I had a good laugh at AFT’s words here: Well not only do I understand what they really want, but what they do to get it, and most importantly, the fact that I don’t, nor ever will, give a f~~~ about what a woman wants ever again.  Unless she wants my glob splashed across her lips, then I’ll oblige, if I’ve got the time and inclination.

I was bound to be misunderstood, and I laugh at those who misunderstand me. Kind mockery at the well intentioned, but unfettered cruelty towards those would be prison guards of my creative possibilities. This so as to learn as much from misunderstanding as from understanding. Taking pleasure in worthy opponents and making language fluid and flowing like a river yet pointed and precise as a dagger. Contradicts the socialistic purpose of language and makes for a wonderful linguistic dance, A verbal martial art with constant parries that hone the weapon that is the two edged sword of my mouth.

[Anonymous 25]

Yes, I actively spread it but not overtly and only very subtly by planting seeds. If you try to persuade people overtly you will just be met with resistance.

Every small victory helps.

Influencing is one of the best skills we can master. Like one of the above posters said, not only women can be chameleons.

Persuading a guy not to get married is a pretty easy sale to make. Just talk about the latest ludicrous court case where the guy got shafted. They are making our lives easy to persuade other guys. It’s easier to persuade someone to avoid women by ‘innocently’ talking about some false rape allegation where a guy went to jail than it is to tell them about mgtow

once you’ve got quite a bit of momentum and someone wakes up and stops being a white knight then the window will open to mention mgtow, but even then only subtly

[Great-OzParticipant 226]

I try to share with those men who I believe are ready for the red-pill, but I don’t shout it at the top of my lungs. To me, the red-pill is something that you have to be ready for and until then you’re going to reject it utterly.

"Life is the future, not the past." Wizard's 7th rule, Terry Goodkind

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

No, I do not proselytize MGTOW, it’s not for those that are not ready for it. Blue Pillers will reject it out of hand because they either want to believe the lie, they can’t believe it for ego’s sake; or a combination of the two. You can’t save someone that doesn’t understand, it is a waste of time. We all got here a thousand different versions of the same way. No one had to sell this to us, we sought it out. What makes you think it will happen any other way?

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

BONE wrote:

Feminism is spreading MGTOW fast enough as it is lol.

True that.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

I don’t really mention MGTOW unless the discussion comes up, but otherwise I will challenge any female coworker, family member, friend, when they bring up some retarded feminazi drivel, and any subjects that have some measure of trying to target men. Although I have a few times uttered the sentence, of “Just a man going his own way”, I think it’s always been hidden in open sights, since I still haven’t been called to a meeting on it, or been called a woman hater, I guess when I battle someone in a debate, I either am winning well, or am about to get stabbed hard in the back, hah.

I am very open about not wanting anything to do with relationships,  I often say, “maybe in 5 years or so, when I’ve reached my goal in what I’m doing”, but in reality, I don’t really intend to ever do so, because what I’m doing and aiming fore, is something I see myself working on for decades to come, but the 5+ year excuse will work for now, and with MGTOW getting more and more open, I soon might sing Mgtow songs/anthems without care.

 

[Anonymous 11]

I have one friend who is an alpha stud. Women throw themselves at him constantly and have since we were teens.

Anyway, he was with me on some of my spontaneous public service anti-White Knight seminars that I hold at various local bars on occasion. He was always giggling and semi-mocking me as any true friend would. Lo and behold, he calls me this morning raising hell about chivalrous men and White Knights.

WINNING!!!!!

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

FreeGhost wrote:

I have debated with male friends time and time again that they were getting duped, only to be ridiculed. Of course most of the time, I was right and they got shafted out of thousands of dollars and precious time. I feel both male and females in the western world are in/headed towards total narcissism. Our consumerist culture demands men to trample upon other men to reach the top, at least to better their chances of procreation.

I run my own YouTube channel, which is around MGTOW. Maybe that counts. I am not actively promoting it, just producing content and talking on YouTube. I chat on here. Pretty much I chat in the MGTOWsphere about things. If there is a context where I can talk, I do.

With this said, I don’t see MGTOW for all men, just those for whom are ready for it. A man who isn’t ready won’t act. A man who is having much success in life being Blue Pill isn’t going to listen either.

In regards to narcissism, I see that MGTOW can be very prone to being this. It is about yourself first and foremost, and really focused on knowing who you are. It is a way to try to manage that, living it, but it isn’t a way by itself to get you to connect more with the world and save anything. It is about saving yourself.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[LowKeyParticipant 702]

I find it best to have people stumble upon MGTOW themselves instead of me introducing it to them, – I am not in the business of campaigning to everyone anyway

I have introduced the MGTOW concept to some people (friends) however they just brushed it off which I respected but dont expect me to feel sorry if they get women taking advantage or trampling over them

Don't let defeat, defeat you; Let defeat be your greatest teacher.

[Sky-OParticipant 18934]

Some of you guys might disagree with me on this:

But I firmly believe that women, although not actively trying to spread MGTOW are in fact leading more men to MGTOW than men could spread MGTOW to other men.

Women are leading more men to find MGTOW and doing so at a rate that is higher than what men could spread MGTOW.

Women are doing it through their own narcissistic, self absorbed, lying and manipulative behavior. Combined with their lack of a desire to be monogamous and systematically use the men they are with as human wallets. . . . . .

When the men they are with start to figure it all out, take a step back and look at their own lives objectively and ultimately crash and crash really hard when they see that it all was a lie and a facade. Then at that point, and with nowhere else to turn, they find their way to MGTOW. In many cases, they morph and evolve into MGTOW prior, but ultimately always will find a way to MGTOW.

So as long as women keep engaging in the hypergamous, manipulative and parasitical behavior they have mastered since the dawn of time and with MGTOW as a sanctuary and place for men to go: Those women are directly responsible for basically leading men to MGTOW and essentially doing so at a rate that exceeds what current MGTOW men could do in terms of spreading the message, the island of peace and sanctuary known as the MGTOW way and philosophy.

For every five guys that get used, devalued, discarded and then crash and burn on a psychological and emotional level: If just one out of every five picks himself up long enough to recover what is left of his life and sanity, then finds his way to MGTOW – then every woman out their is already essentially sending men to this path.

[HitmanParticipant]

yes .. discreetly to those who may have a chance..so much ignorance in the way tho..first thought is , sadly ” no more pussy ? ” i’m like .. NO ! MORE !!! just LESS GRIEF !!!

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