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I have to learn new tricks, and that is hard for an old dog.
Better the dog learns new tricks before it is abused so much it attacks and kills its former master.
No. I am a former white knight in MGTOW rehabilitation.
I get you 100% on that statement.
Knowing that allows me to “learn new tricks”. Sometimes I need to vocalize (speak/write) what I am thinking in order to exclude myself from being totally insane in this world.There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it
Of course not!
Individuals can be good or bad.
That being said, men are the trendsetters and builders of civilization.
Women are not.No problem. A man has to explain his own when necessary.
The intention of this post was to put in context the underlying idea present in most posts, where we criticize women.
The assumption of an outside observer would be that “we hate women”.My take is that there are good people and bad people in every gender.
However, if we drop the societal mindframe and take a more personal definition of “what would make someone good to me”, then we can look at behaviors and classify them accordingly.
Obviously I had my share of problems with male friends, but certainly I have more complains about females.
And then I can generalize it: most men will feel the same.
So, I am actually supporting the notion that we do not hate women, we only speak of our bad experiences. Under these experiences and that definition, most (if not all) women are bad for us.
Thank you for clarifying. I think you can understand my rash judgment. Lots of tuna trolls lurking the forums these days. Can’t be too careful.
I’m in full agreement with you, actually. The “hive”, as it were, claims that MGTOWs all hate women.
Hatred comes from a position of illogic and irrationality, the very things most here advice against.A wise man once said; “You can either love or hate women, or you can understand them.” I think it’s safe to say that most of us here seek to understand, not mindlessly love or hate like blue pillers and manginas do.
"To live is to suffer; to survive is to find some meaning in the suffering." - Friedrich Nietzsche
In these discussions about the differences between men and women the overall impression is that the following statement is made.
All men are good and all women are bad.
No. It’s more accurate (in these discussions here) that you will merely see a REJECTION of the reverse message – which you will see in every facet of the media and culture pounded down everyone’s throats:
“All women are good/smarter/awesome and all men are bad/stupid/rapists/sexist/assholes”.
But what exactly constitutes a “good man” and a “good woman”?
Let’s put their own behavior and our personal judgement of that aside, and look at the LAW. Who is more required by law to be more accountable and pay for their own mistakes, and even OTHER people’s mistakes?
Replace the words “good/bad” with “just” and “unjust”.
If you cheat on your wife, who’s the asshole who should pay?
When she cheats on you, who’s the asshole who should pay and didn’t take care of her needs?A man could be a GOOD man, husband and father and STILL be considered “bad”.
A woman could be a S~~~ wife and mother and still think she is a “good” person.If you asked each of these women if they were “a good woman” what do you think they would say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF_wwIjBxNM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvDhSB7GHk
/video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/But what exactly constitutes a “good man” and a “good woman”?
Because I am a man, I don’t need to answer that because there are laws in place that MAKE SURE I am a “good man” or I will pay for that mistake.
A woman is not in a position to answer that at all.
You’re not going to see MGTOW running around and broadcasting “I’M A GOOD MAN!!! I’M A GOOD MAN!!!” because he doesn’t need to. But if you’re a woman and you tell him “women are smarter than men”, or “if we have sex while drunk that makes you rapist”…. then he will LAUGH at you and hand you a dildo while telling you to go f~~~ yourself. It should have been expected.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Good woman – One that does not kill the husband or the kids (I dont know, it doesn’t seem to be a requirement).
LOL you’re right even then she’d be painted as
the victim because her hubby and kids pushed her too far
so this was her only way out,poor lil thing.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
Women are inherently unstable. Good or bad is where they are at any given time depending on variables.
A woman’s nature is seen when she is angry. At that moment she cannot hide the red glare of her eyes for she is the nature of a devil.
It sucks to have the Devils nature. I did not make them that way. It is not my fault. I only see what is.
Peace brothers
In these discussions about the differences between men and women the overall impression is that the following statement is made.
All men are good and all women are bad.
As everything, some men are “good” and others are “bad”. The same way, some women are “good” and others are “bad”. But what exactly constitutes a “good man” and a “good women”?
The classic interpretation is:
Good man – a man of honor, word and loyalty, that provides and leads his family, instilling and upholding values at his house.
Good women – a women of honor, word and loyalty, that cares for his family and respects her husband.This is not my interpretation, it is the vows made at the altar of marriage. I am not even using the words “obeys her husband” that used to be norm.
Now, I am sure that we can find many men today that would fit that category and agree with the definition. So the majority of men would be good under the old definition.
And I am equally sure that most women would not agree with this definition and call it retrograde or patriarchal. So much so that they have endeavored to change what means to be a good man and a good woman. But the consequence is that the majority of women are not good under the old definition.
So, in my interpretation, the definition in our days is:
Good man – a man that loves, obeys and respects his wife, providing for her and the family, but somehow finding time to be always present.
Good woman – One that does not kill the husband or the kids (I dont know, it doesn’t seem to be a requirement).This interpretation just states that being a good man is an impossible task, while being a good women is supposed to the default condition.
So, this thing of interpretations is bulls~~~. We are left with what is to be a good human being.
In my view, a good human being is one that brings and tries to bring the possible happiness into the lives he touches.
Under this definition, most men will try to make their women more happy. On the other hand, I dont see most women doing the same thing for their men.
Obviously it is not totally possible to make a woman happy, because she is fast in destroying anykind of wellbeing to create emotional drama.
But at least men try. Women on the other hand just make the necessary effort to trap the man, and are fast to drop any pretense of caring for his happiness.
So, unlike present day society that say “all man are bad and all women are good“, we have personal proof that the opposite is more close to the truth.
And so much is the truth that we dont see women staying away from men. I mean, if men are so bad, why do women want anything to do with them?
On the other hand, MGTOW and many men no longer want anything to do with women. I mean, if women are so good, why do men want to stay away from them?
So, the proof is in the pudding. They want our pudding, we dont want theirs.What do you think is the good one?
In a lot of early Buddhist scripture they held the standpoint that a woman can never become a living Buddha because of her inferior nature but that if a woman wanted to become a living Buddha she would have to die and be reincarnated as a man
Anonymous11Women are inherently unstable.
Damn good point. There are some bad men. To deny it is mistaken. However, c~~~s possess pussy power which the vast majority abuse to the hilt. Blue pillers and manginas enable them so the average c~~~ is just taking advantage of them. I almost cannot blame these c~~~s as it is being served up on a silver platter to them. Why not take advantage of these fools?
MGTOWs are a force with which they cannot reckon.
Men and women just are. The concept of good and evil is often subjective, men think and women feel. The outcome is that we’re diametrically oppossed.
Men and women just are. The concept of good and evil is often subjective
Oh but it’s not.
This woman actually think she’s doing something RIGHT which is within her “RIGHTS”.
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Don’t give woman a pass and let them off because they “just are”.
Nobody will EVER give you a break like that. Least of all, your own wife.She will say you beat her just to collect a bigger check.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Men and women just are. The concept of good and evil is often subjective
Oh but it’s not.
This woman actually think she’s doing something RIGHT which is within her “RIGHTS”.
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Don’t give woman a pass and let them off because they “just are”.
Nobody will EVER give you a break like that. Least of all, your own wife.She will say you beat her just to collect a bigger check.
Which is why us men often have to keep them in check. Main reason why women are reaching new lows (look up Dubai porta-potties) is because they’ve been allowed to do so freely, however, perhaps they’ve always been that way? I have no intention of giving anyone a pass especially women committing those types of actions, however, what can we often do? Except avoid those Women. You make a good point, nonetheless in good and evil due to a dog stopping that women preying on a child. Problem is, we can’t do much against those types of women because there’s an entire government against men in general while giving women free passes because of well vagina.
great video you showed Keymaster! its why I defend my love and respect for dogs so much!
as far as the OP’s discussion I will simply say this.
no not all men are good and all woman are bad, such a thing varies upon the individual.
but lets compare MALE NATURE, To FEMALE NATURE, and yes I’ll take MALE NATURE 7 days a week and twice on Sundays!
"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything
The concept of good and evil are subjective. What is good for you may be evil for society, like MGTOW good for you but society have one less resource mine. What is bad for you may be good for the society, being a debt slave require you to take 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet, but you will be very productive to society.
Being a good man is just a attempt to instill foolish pride in your ego so you will toil in the plantation. Read what you said yourself, being good is just provide for family, provide happiness, provide for women.
I would rather think of men and women in terms of mental stability. Mostly men are more rational, able to think logically, able to control their emotion, women mostly are irrational, think with their emotion, and from time to time unable to control themselves (Chad thunderc~~~, twice like to abuse and kill her own children /forums/topic/chinas-new-domestic-violence-law/#post-275241).
There are of course mentally unstable men, and mentally stable women, but on the whole women are much less stable then men.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
The concept of good and evil are subjective. What is good for you may be evil for society, like MGTOW good for you but society have one less resource mine. What is bad for you may be good for the society, being a debt slave require you to take 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet, but you will be very productive to society.
Absolute truth vs. relative truth.
Absolute truth = natural law, unwavering right and wrong.
Relative truth = Something can still be “legal”, but it doesn’t make it right.
This is why it’s called a “legal” system now instead of a JUSTICE system, and thats’ what you get when more women vote. Favoring relative (over absolute) truth can have dire consequences.
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Between Adam and Eve, God expected Adam to “know better” than Eve… because Adam has the capability to know better.
Our legal system is set up exactly the same way.
YOU (MEN) ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN SHE IS. AND WOMEN/FEMINISTS KNOW IT.
You have the capacity (are expected) to know better because they know women don’t. The “legal” system doesn’t even think women have the ability to make up their own minds. It’s right there in print.
Now I’m not a religious man, but of all of the things that were in the Garden of Eden, the only thing not directly from God… is Eve. She was created from Adam, who was created in God’s image. Adam is copy of God, and Eve is a copy of Adam… Adam is “one step closer” to God/Absolute Truth than Eve is.
And, when regarding how male and female brains “work” in order to ascertain truth, men and women “find truth” in different ways. G.W.F. Hegel describes the phenomenon in the following way:
“… Women may have happy ideas, taste, and elegance, but they cannot attain to the ideal. The difference between men and women is like that between animals and plants. Men correspond to animals, while women correspond to plants because their development is more placid and the principle that underlies it is the rather vague unity of feeling. When women hold the helm of government, the state is at once in jeopardy, because women regulate their actions not by the demands of universality but by arbitrary inclinations and opinions. Women are educated–who knows how?” — G.F. Hegel
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Keymaster, that is pretty close to how my father explained society and women to me.
He also explained the problem with the knowledge that women are inferior and have the Devils nature.
The problem is that nobody who is inferior wants it known that they are inferior. Even if they know they are. And they don’t want it to be known in society. Nobody wants to be known as inherently unstable. It sucks to be what they are.
I also am not religious but to deny what was written by wise men is detrimental to one’s knowledge of the destructive reality of what a woman is.
Our society allows Feminists to stand upon the pedestal of truth with self righteous indignation and spew what is their right.
Rave on cat s~~~. Women, you don’t have the right.
Peace brothers
I have met some pretty s~~~ty “men” in my life. These people are worse than some of the women I have come across. I have no respect for those kind of men. Those that commit adultery on both sexes, are not respectable people– regardless of their gender.
If you are a piece of s~~~, you are a piece of s~~~. Female or male, it is still a giant piece of s~~~.
Those that commit adultery on both sexes, are not respectable people– regardless of their gender.
I would push back on that for two reasons.
When a man “commits adultery” he’s going to pay for that mistake. HUGE.
When a woman “commits adultery” she’s going to expect a MAN to pay for her mistake. HUGE.
That’s how it’s possible to still genuinely “respect” a man. And women will respect him more as well, because the ability to have many sexual partners actually INCREASES his perceived “value” in the eyes of other women.
A man who commits adultery is never going to come home with a baby to his wife and say “Here this is yours. Pay for it.”
When Tiger Woods “cheated” on his wife, he wrote her a check for $250M and publicly apologized. But she was just bad in bed and beat him with a golf club. He wasn’t a “cheater”. She was cheating him OUT OF IT. Listening to Tiger Woods “apologize” on top of writing her a QUARTER-OF-A-BILLION DOLLAR check actually hurt me in my b~~~~.
See the difference?
Sure there are “bad” men – AND – woman.
But a man never collects any reward or pay out for being a s~~~ty husband.Was Tiger Woods really a “bad” man?
Or was she just a “bad” wife.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.The concept of good and evil are subjective. What is good for you may be evil for society, like MGTOW good for you but society have one less resource mine. What is bad for you may be good for the society, being a debt slave require you to take 2 or 3 jobs to make ends meet, but you will be very productive to society.
Absolute truth vs. relative truth.
Absolute truth = natural law, unwavering right and wrong.
Relative truth = Something can still be “legal”, but it doesn’t make it right.
This is why it’s called a “legal” system now instead of a JUSTICE system, and thats’ what you get when more women vote. Favoring relative (over absolute) truth can have dire consequences.
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Between Adam and Eve, God expected Adam to “know better” than Eve… because Adam has the capability to know better.
Our legal system is set up exactly the same way.
YOU (MEN) ARE MORE RESPONSIBLE THAN SHE IS. AND WOMEN/FEMINISTS KNOW IT.
You have the capacity (are expected) to know better because they know women don’t. The “legal” system doesn’t even think women have the ability to make up their own minds. It’s right there in print.
Now I’m not a religious man, but of all of the things that were in the Garden of Eden, the only thing not directly from God… is Eve. She was created from Adam, who was created in God’s image. Adam is copy of God, and Eve is a copy of Adam… Adam is “one step closer” to God/Absolute Truth than Eve is.
And, when regarding how male and female brains “work” in order to ascertain truth, men and women “find truth” in different ways. G.W.F. Hegel describes the phenomenon in the following way:
“… Women may have happy ideas, taste, and elegance, but they cannot attain to the ideal. The difference between men and women is like that between animals and plants. Men correspond to animals, while women correspond to plants because their development is more placid and the principle that underlies it is the rather vague unity of feeling. When women hold the helm of government, the state is at once in jeopardy, because women regulate their actions not by the demands of universality but by arbitrary inclinations and opinions. Women are educated–who knows how?” — G.F. Hegel
And for the atheist, the average men have larger brain size and brain nerve cells then the average women.
http://www2.nau.edu/~bio372-c/class/behavior/sexdif1.htmMany of the studies are watered down to fit the narrative, there are some people who claim to have a part in the IQ test claim that if the test results show big difference between men and women score, the test question are thrown out and put in new test question till there is little difference between the scores between. Given today environment, I tend to believe that.
We just need to look at history, what men has achieved? What women have achieved? Real life shows better then any dubious IQ test and research can.
There are c~~~s that is p~~~ed off that a transgender is winning the women game tournament.
http://www.reaxxion.com/3654/how-transsexuals-are-ruining-e-sports
Now only they state women are weaker then men in non physical intensive task.Woman have slower reaction times compared to males (up to 100ms), this being the reason why there is no (genetically) female on the top of fast reaction sports, like e-sports, motorsports and similar
For slow games that is all about brain power like chess, men is always the better player, there is only one grandmaster chess player that is woman, and she is not even the best player of her time.
It is just Darwin evolution, men has to be competitive and good at their work for countless generation, or they die. Women generally have a sheathed life through the sacrifice of men. Thus men is force to evolve to be better and women don’t have much motivation to evolved. As such it is predictable that women are inferior to men.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
but lets compare MALE NATURE, To FEMALE NATURE, and yes I’ll take MALE NATURE 7 days a week and twice on Sundays!
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I’d rather work the biggest mangina of all time, than work with women. At least manginas have the potential to acknowledge our points about MGTOW and why we’re MGTOW.
I have met some pretty s~~~ty “men” in my life. These people are worse than some of the women I have come across. I have no respect for those kind of men. Those that commit adultery on both sexes, are not respectable people– regardless of their gender.
If you are a piece of s~~~, you are a piece of s~~~. Female or male, it is still a giant piece of s~~~.
You have been lucky. A s~~~ty man will punch you in the face. A s~~~ty woman will destroy your life.
A giant piece of s~~~ man has nothing on a giant piece of s~~~ woman. Not even close to being equal.
You really need to try harder at p~~~ing off a good piece of s~~~ woman. You haven’t really lived life until that day happens.
When was the last time a piece of s~~~ guy went into your bosses office and simply by crying got you destroyed. (I watched it happen to a co-worker)
P~~~ed off woman equals the loss of your right to exist.
Peace brothers
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