Approaching final years .. with an AWALT?

[WallyParticipant]

When my father died, my mother started dating 5 years later at 65, they get along great, and have enjoyed each other’s company for 10 years, but he is fast approaching his death as well. My mother far from a NAWALT and in fact my father regretted marriage but they stayed together, and to her credit she stayed with him when he fell ill. That is one thing missing from most recent generations, a great deal many women knew they had a great deal with marriage and taught the next generation to not blow it and ingrained it in their daughters. With my time with my grandmother, I know she did this with my mother. As time went by this was lost to each successive generation. My mother never pushed her new man for marriage and I always appreciated what he did for her.

The laws have changed so much and women with them, attempting to find a decent AWALT in one’s golden years is worse than getting with someone when your younger. She will press for marriage and look to cash out, at that point there is no time to recover.

Having a dog, hanging with some buddies, is the best remedy to loneliness in ones golden years.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Hermit wrote:

Ranger One wrote:

I’m 51 and I plan on dying alone. And by plan, I mean I will keep engineering my situation so that I die alone.I have a gf who is also 51; guess what… she won’t be moving in. I don’t have a logical reason. My home and 2+ acres is my Fortress of Solitude, like in Superman.I enjoy having a good bit of alone time. I also enjoy doing stuff with the boys, like all 3 of us playing a game on the same server together where we all team up.The gf likes to call me a lot. When I don’t feel like talking in an evening, I simply end up texting that I am tired and am taking a nap, and I will nap for several hours when I get home from work. Avoids hurting her feelings and it avoids me being taken for granted.

I just turned 52 and will do what I can to die alone. Can you imagine how aggravating it would be to not only experience dying, but to have a bunch of people, or even one person staring at you asking what they should do and calling an ambulance? If I could speak, I’d tell them to get away from me and don’t bother calling anyone. Just let me die in peace.

If I’m going to die, I probably want to die in peace. I remember Mike Ermantraut in Breaking Bad after walt shot him and then started regretting doing it… he was like “just shut the f~~~ up and let me die in peace”.

If I think I’m going to be on my death bed surrounded by a bunch of annoying people, my last meal will be 6 hardboiled eggs, cabbage, brocolli, wasabi peas, and hummus. Then when I die, the entire room will stink from my death fart.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[VerusParticipant 965]

I’m 56 and have kids living with me. within a decade they’ll be gone. I’ve got no desire to ever marry or cohabitate with a woman again. Here’s my thinking:

First of all the vast majority of women in my age range aren’t attractive. I’m as active as I’ve ever been and in good physical shape, but most middle aged women are wreaks, both mentally and physically. They have lots of baggage, mental disorders, and plenty of issues. Once they get past their early forties they are menopausal or on their way to menopause. You can expect their energy and interest in sex to wain. So committing to a woman, even one a decade and a half younger, gives you only a short window before the sex dries up, the sedentary lifestyle sets in, and hagdom arrives. Then you are like Jack Nicholson in the movie “About Schmidt,” asking yourself how you ended up sleeping with this old woman. It’ll be hard enough getting old myself, I don’t need a shriveled hag beside me to double the experience.

So then there’s the question of wanting someone to take care of you. No, absolutely not. I can take care of myself and my kids, I will continue to take care of myself until I can’t. I wouldn’t want to put someone in the position of having to care for me, of being a burden to another person, or go through the pain of having them desert me when I become a burden, which often occurs. And there’s also the possibility that she goes into decline or becomes incapacitated before me, and I don’t want to be caretaker to an old woman and change her diapers either. If I want company I can always engage in social activities and casual relationships, no reason to obligate myself to a woman or her to me. All this would be different if I had married young and built a life with a woman, with all those good years ahead in which to build a family and (if we beat the odds) a bond that lasts into old age – then the commitment makes sense, assuming she is that rare unicorn. But starting in your 50s you don’t have the incentive of many good years ahead, instead you are only a few years away from infirmity, hospitals, and graves. To me it just doesn’t make sense. Also look at the misery old people inflict on each other, and the possibility of being stripped of your savings late in life when it’s impossible to start over and recoup. I expect to go into my twilight years with a hefty chunk of change to live on. That means I’ll have a target on my back for all the old women on the grift. For that reason alone I wouldn’t trust a woman.

And finally, I don’t owe these middle-aged women anything. The majority are alone because they’ve thrown away the good men in their lives. Let them spend their final years alone. I’m happy doing that, and all they are likely to do is bring me misery. So I’ll leave them to their cats and depression.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

With all those Old folks homes, you would think ALL sorts of PORN would be flowing out of there. Nope. But I’m pretty sure you may get lucky with someone. Just not often.

I don’t know what to tell ya. I’m only 40. I plan on living a HAPPY luxurious life. Relaxing and enjoying running around the world. Nice hot places. Great people I meet etc.

My body is the ONLY thing I own. And the ONLY thing I really care about. So engineer your home to take advantage of your body now so when you get old, its easy to move around.

My mom is in her 60’s. Arthritis is starting to kick in. She is already having problems going up and down stairs. The Surgery she had on her knee did nothing.

Let me make this clear. YOU WANT to live in a home that is EASY to get around. EASY to bath, shower etc. And BUILD THE HOME FOR YOU.

Same with your property. Don’t work around it , have it work around you. And save up PLENTY of money in invest in any infrastructure that would make life as easy as pushing a button. Making strides for Robots to cook meals in your kitchen. Clean your home. Even your toilet should be something that can cleaned by pressing a button, and having some powerful water jets just wash the whole place down.

When you get older, walking is going to get hard. Make sure to have rails installed where you need them. And also make modifications so that you can get in your electric wheelchair.

Doors should open by themselves etc.

ALL these things are EASY TO DO TODAY. And you should plan on them. Don’t be that guy that puts in that S~~~Y plywood ramp that falls apart. Get ready and PLAN for tomorrow today.

That’s the thing man. You want company? You got a home that’s easy to get in and out of? You will have all sorts of visitors. And there is a VERY good reason why they have Guest homes.

But as far as company goes? I would stick to RICH and WEALTHY windows. Anything else is just to dangerous.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[bstoffParticipant 4878]

I will confess/brag about my current situation only because I think it’s unusual and probably what the OP or his friend was expecting or hoping for.

I am 52 and have a 20 year-old GF with no issues or baggage except typical childhood issues in her past, which probably make guys her age seem immature to her.
She’s never been with anyone before me, sexually or in any kind of relationship, and I’m absolutely certain of that.

She is smart, very beautiful, sexy, and we agree on everything that matters.

Is she a NAWALT/unicorn?
F~~~ no! They don’t exist. Never pretend that they do.
Everything seems fine between us now, but I have enough experience to know that all relations~~~s are destined to fail, somehow.

I am not going to fool myself into believing I will grow old with her.
It might seem nice, but I never try to fool myself into believing one of us isn’t going to get tired of the other and bail on the relationship.

Before hooking up with her, I was planning to retire soon and move overseas (Asia or Central America) and pump/dump only 18-20-year-olds until I died.
I learned that any woman older than 20 that I met, most likely had already been ruined enough to see men only as a utility to be abused.

If you come across a woman who you think will make you happy for a while, I say let her into your life if you are willing to risk whatever harm she is capable of bringing onto your head.
It is very likely that any women is going to hurt you, somehow, if you let her.
If you don’t already know how much harm a woman can bring you, read the forums.
I know many women, personally, that deserve prison for the way they have used and abused men, often through the court system that has their backs.

I will say 99.99999999% of all women are going to bring some kind of harm to you if you trust them in any way.

The one I’m with, just hasn’t been brainwashed or made bitter enough to want to hurt me yet.
I don’t intend to give her a reason, but I’m not going to expect too much from her either.

Sorry for coming off as a blue-pill fool, but I am enjoying myself immensely in my current situation and will continue enjoying it until I see a need to escape.

EDIT:
This woman has been red-pilled regarding the nature of women and has made are aware of exactly the kind of things that make men go their own way.
She knows that I’m GMOW, and she understands why.
She resents the way that women take advantage of men and has seen and heard, firsthand, of many of their tactics and thought processes.
She only wants love(companionship and sex) from me and knows better than to try to manipulate me and never asks for financial support.
If she begins to show hyper-gamy, she knows that will be the end of us.
If all women were more like her, it would be harder for men to figure out that GYOW is the best, and safest, avenue for men.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Life long monogamous relations~~~s are against human nature anyway. They may have somewhat worked many centuries ago when a guy only lived on average until age 35…

[SwimcatParticipant 3599]

Here’s my story. I’m 65 years old. I met my wife when I was 18. We were married at age 21 for 39 years. Three children one grandchild. Two are married. All are successful. We both did well in our careers and built good pensions and 401K. In late 2014 she came down with a brain tumor and died in July. The life insurance that I on her had paid off the remaining amount of the mortgage and what was left of my daughters student loans. I have a house free and clear that’s too big for me, a new camper trailer I can use to travel the world, and enough of money coming in every month I can’t come close to spending it.

Since the day she died I’ve had a target on my back. I’ve spoke at length on here about what has occurred since I became widowed. There are things I miss very much about women. Besides the sex I miss going places like concerts, ball games, and weekend trips. I have at times foolishly fell under the spell of charming words and a nice ass. I wouldn’t mind having someone to go here and there with. Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttt, every one I meet it doesn’t take long before she spots the possibility of a better life with me. Some of them have been young, younger than my daughters. The very idea of prenups to protect my kids and/or the horror of a late in life divorce. Me dying first and a 2nd wife walking off with everything. Then there’s the Holy Trinity from Hell. My two daughters and my daughter in law. They would welcome a new step mother with all the charm of wounded pit viper. No thanks!!

This last escapade in Florida has taught me once and for all that I best remain single. It’s just too dangerous for a man like me, and hookers are not an option. Men who indulge in prostitution are the next big target of the feminazi lynch mob, and the law is reacting. If they can take down a powerful wealthy man like Robert Kraft, guys like you and me are small potatoes.

I belong to two men’s fraternal organizations of which I’m active. I play a lot of golf. I hike and overnight backpack. I love my favorite sports teams and go to a lot of games. Love this time of the year. The NCAA basketball and opening of baseball season. I spend a lot of screen time on my family history, taking math courses, and talking with my MGTOW brothers. At my age I just don’t need the aggravation of women. It seems like anymore most of them are certifiable lunatics, especially the young ones. I’m glad I’m not young and single, trying to find a wife to make a family with in this day and age.

My son and his wife have moved in with me recently and I enjoy the time with my grandson, but that won’t last long. They are actively looking for a new house. I plan to hit the road again in May. This time for the Rocky Mountains. I don’t plan to come home till November. I hope this year I don’t get chased home by wild fires. I’ll sell this house after my son leaves. I’ll just get a condo I can pay cash for with enough room that my daughters will have a place to stay when they come home, and I’ll spend most of the year a nomad till I can no longer leave. I intend to die with my boots on, a good and honorable man, who obeyed the law, served his country, paid his taxes, and took care of his family and community. I’ll be damned if I let any women take my money or tarnish the record I’ve spent a lifetime building.

[HermitParticipant]

bstoff wrote:

Sorry for coming off as a blue-pill fool, but I am enjoying myself immensely in my current situation and will continue enjoying it until I see a need to escape.

I don’t see you as blue pill at all. You’re doing it similar to how I do it. If you can have some fun with a woman, why not? You know what kind of a c~~~ your sweet young gal can turn into and you’re guarding yourself and prepared for it when it happens. The only difference between our situations is, I don’t have a girlfriend. I have 1, 2, or 3 gals I hang out with and have fun with. When they are not fun, I forget about them. Sometimes they’ll get to where they are fun again and I hang out with them again. I don’t get too close to them or develop feelings or get emotions for them. I just have fun with them until they do something that prevents that. There’s always another one around the bend.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[HermitParticipant]

Ranger One wrote:

I remember Mike Ermantraut in Breaking Bad after walt shot him and then started regretting doing it… he was like “just shut the f~~~ up and let me die in peace”.

I was thinking of the same scene when I typed my post. Sitting by a beautiful stream on a nice day would be a great way to go.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Anonymous 38]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Cant f~~~ old women. Just would never, thats not what is attractive to me. My mental age is in my mid 20s, i like young bodies, fertile bodies, they can be soft and sometimes a little chub in the right places is fine, but old bodies do nothing for me. Would also need someone who actually likes sex, old women pretty much are done with it. They can all be my grandma or mom, no thanky.
Moot anyways since I have no desire to have sex with modern women today and risk my health and wallet and freedom.

That’s normal. Nature doesn’t want us to f~~~ women that aren’t fertile. I can’t even get a hard on for most fertile women these days let alone a cougar. Obviously that says more about their femininity than it does my masculinity 🙂

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22546]

Autolite wrote:

Life long monogamous relations~~~s are against human nature anyway. They may have somewhat worked many centuries ago when a guy only lived on average until age 35…

…or the woman died in childbrth.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Anonymous wrote:

Fuuuuuuuck no.
There’s only one thing better with a woman present and even then not always, and rarely over 60!
Though, I do believe companionship is important. Theoretically I could enjoy a female companion, more of a lodger than a partner, someone with a nurturing soul.

I only have one, just one female best friend that i’ve known for 12 years after hs that actually contacted me on fb when i got that back, and we reconnected. Since she has no one of a friend to turn to that doesn’t want to get into her pants, and I don’t want her at all since she doesn’t bother to hide her true nature with me, there is at least some level of respect.

Everyone else on facebook that knew me didn’t give two s~~~s about me, and the only best friend herself enjoys her own time alone which is what she claims, but meh I don’t care enough to find that out myself.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Wally wrote:

When my father died, my mother started dating 5 years later at 65, they get along great, and have enjoyed each other’s company for 10 years, but he is fast approaching his death as well. My mother far from a NAWALT and in fact my father regretted marriage but they stayed together, and to her credit she stayed with him when he fell ill. That is one thing missing from most recent generations, a great deal many women knew they had a great deal with marriage and taught the next generation to not blow it and ingrained it in their daughters. With my time with my grandmother, I know she did this with my mother. As time went by this was lost to each successive generation. My mother never pushed her new man for marriage and I always appreciated what he did for her.
The laws have changed so much and women with them, attempting to find a decent AWALT in one’s golden years is worse than getting with someone when your younger. She will press for marriage and look to cash out, at that point there is no time to recover.
Having a dog, hanging with some buddies, is the best remedy to loneliness in ones golden years.

That is why its best to try to enjoy your own company, but ya if you don’t have any interaction with people at all, there will be a consequence to ones own health.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

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