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This is not a post about my own life, I am mgtow guy for over two decades monk mode and ghosting. I have no reason to live this scenario other than the fact that at some point, I too will reach the age. I am just searching for view that I know nothing about .. experience that I have no knowledge of .. so give me some viewpoints as I simply ask this question ..
>>> First, my hypothesis based on what I believe .. AWALT will always eventually control and make life miserable for a guy. This is a given. There are no Unicorns so don’t even try. Let us take a hypothetical mgtow guy at age 55 .. just for sake of discussion. Let us say he plans to live normal independent life to age 69 based on health, family history .. and all else.
Finally, my question .. for those with past or recent exposure to AWALT lifestyle and tendencies.
>>> question .. is the companionship or any conceivable AWALT domestic benefit, sharing cooking, someone around the house .. you make a list .. even worth considering later in life .. say age 55 and over .. knowing full well she will eventually mess up what you have going and essentially destroy at an increasing daily rate .. the years you have left .. fleeting companionship, is it worth it at later years when you are still “young enough” .. and here is the important point >> yet old enough not to sacrifice more than part of your retirement
… please be brutal and pull no punches .. .. there are still a few very attractive AWALTS who are in their mid 40’s, I mean not-the-norm .. not many but occasionally you see one, like once per year.
.. often, AWALT has messed things up and are now looking for a home .. of course .. much like an abandoned pet at the shelter.
should a guy even consider “giving away” a final decade? not out of sympathy, but, because she might work for that short period… you guys can answer this better than anywhere else. Should AWALT be shunned to the end?
thanks in advanceWell, let’s see. I’m 54 so I’m kind of your guy here. My grandparents lived to about 95 and were self-sufficient until their mid 80’s, so I do plan on being independent past 69. I think late 70’s to 80 before I check into the assisted living home, barring any major health setbacks.
So, if all goes well I’ll have about 15 years between the time I retire and the time I go into assisted living. Do I want to spend that time with an AWALT? I can cook, I can clean, I can totally take care of myself. And those things are very easy to do. Also, I could hire a maid to do those things.
Companionship? Well, yeah that sounds pretty good. It would be nice to have someone to hang out with during the day, someone to cuddle with on the couch at night, someone who is always happy to see you when you’re around. Maybe someone to just go for long walks with during the day, grab a bite to eat on the way home. It would also be nice if they weren’t too picky about where we eat, didn’t make a big fuss about every little detail. Someone with an easy-going disposition. So yeah, companionship would be awesome during those 15 years.
Which is why I’ll get a dog. Because ADALT. All Dogs Are Like THAT
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I plan to be divorced when I’m in my 50″s, and I couldn’t think of a worse fate than to live my last years/decades where I had to deal with the bickering, knit picking, bitching, whining, complaining, ETC ETC ETC of a post-menopausal Ole Hag of a Woman….
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… please be brutal and pull no punches .. just wondering if AWALT is worth considering during final decade or so .. of life .. or is it best to remain heading towards sunset on safe and narrow path of total freedom? .. there are still a few very attractive AWALTS who are in their mid 40’s, I mean not-the-norm .. not many but occasionally you see one, like once per year.
.. often, they’ve messed things up and are now looking for a home .. of course .. much like an abandoned pet at the shelter.should a guy even consider “giving away” a final decade?
… you guys can answer this potential domestic scenario better than anywhere else. Should AWALT be shunned to the end?thanks in advance for your much appreciated views … there is no place else I could ask this questionIf you see something that looks too good to be true, more than likely it is.
Either a pretend-NAWALT is a good liar and actually rode the c~~~ carousel in her 20’s or no men actually wanted her — and likely for good reasons, as in more red flags than China.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
So you’re asking if I want to willingly make the final years of my life excruciatingly miserable? Why would anyone want to do that? Maybe I don’t fully comprehend your question. Let’s see, I’m very happy living alone now and have been very happy these past seven years after the divorce, but in another few years, do I want to go back to being unhappy?
hmskl’d, I like you and I enjoy your posts, but you said to be brutal, so, this seems like a stupid question to me. LOL My answer is, NO. If I die alone, I’ll die a happy man.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
is the companionship or any conceivable AWALT domestic benefit, sharing cooking, someone around the house .. you make a list .. even worth considering later in life .. say age 55 and over
You must be out your f~~~ing mind asking a question like that. It’d be like asking an ex-slave who’s worked up to owning a farm if he wants to go back to his old master!
Let me die a free man, let me die an unmarried man, let me die MGTOW!
Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!It’d be like asking an ex-slave who’s worked up to owning a farm if he wants to go back to his old master!
I appreciate your honesty .. truly, thank you for that.
As guy ages, speaking about myself .. there are many thoughts that appear knowing that life is so short .. and in the blink of an eye .. I wake up one day and I am old.
I’m 51 and I plan on dying alone. And by plan, I mean I will keep engineering my situation so that I die alone.
I have a gf who is also 51; guess what… she won’t be moving in. I don’t have a logical reason. My home and 2+ acres is my Fortress of Solitude, like in Superman.
I enjoy having a good bit of alone time. I also enjoy doing stuff with the boys, like all 3 of us playing a game on the same server together where we all team up.
The gf likes to call me a lot. When I don’t feel like talking in an evening, I simply end up texting that I am tired and am taking a nap, and I will nap for several hours when I get home from work. Avoids hurting her feelings and it avoids me being taken for granted.
All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.
I’m 51 and I plan on dying alone. And by plan, I mean I will keep engineering my situation so that I die alone.
I have a gf who is also 51; guess what… she won’t be moving in. I don’t have a logical reason. My home and 2+ acres is my Fortress of Solitude, like in Superman.
I enjoy having a good bit of alone time. I also enjoy doing stuff with the boys, like all 3 of us playing a game on the same server together where we all team up.
The gf likes to call me a lot. When I don’t feel like talking in an evening, I simply end up texting that I am tired and am taking a nap, and I will nap for several hours when I get home from work. Avoids hurting her feelings and it avoids me being taken for granted.I just turned 52 and will do what I can to die alone. Can you imagine how aggravating it would be to not only experience dying, but to have a bunch of people, or even one person staring at you asking what they should do and calling an ambulance? If I could speak, I’d tell them to get away from me and don’t bother calling anyone. Just let me die in peace.
The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.
In my personal life i have never seen a nawalt or a marriage with a nawalt.
As a phisician for 16 years in total (including training) i have seen old couples, but all they do is be there becouse basically they been toguether their whole life. Although usually the male just looks beaten up.
When the female dies in a old couple, the male usually dies few weeks/months later.
When the male dies first, the female lives five to ten years more.
it doesnt matter if they are close in age range, bitches be bitching.IF SHE BREATHES SHES A THOT.
To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
If you get together with some fat old crone, you will certainly want to die.
So you’re asking if I want to willingly make the final years of my life excruciatingly miserable? Why would anyone want to do that?
There was a TV show in the 80’s or 90’s called LA Law. The asshole attorney was Arnie Becker. Arnie was talking to some miserable bitch at one point in the show and said:
“You know, if I only had 30 days to live I’d want to spend them with you.”
“Why” she replied.
“Because, you could make 30 days feel like 10 years.”So I guess there is that.
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… is the companionship or any conceivable AWALT domestic benefit, sharing cooking, someone around the house …
I can’t think of any benefits. They no longer possess any practical skills, so what use are they? Sitting around whining is not ‘companionship’, either.
Furthermore, at their age you can be sure that you are their last minute retirement plan. If you take one of those on board, you better start sleeping with one eye open.
AWALT is just that — AWALT.
There is no way in hell I would risk my retirement when a woman can divorce and clean you out on a whim.
At 55 it’s doubly foolish — you can’t even work much to rebuild.
Women might act pleasant and attractive at first, but as countless men here have said, they do a “180” when they have you on the hook.
If a 40-something woman is “looking for a home” like an abandoned pet, it’s just not my problem.
Let her live off the proceeds of her past divorce rapes, or get a quota hire job, or a women-only small business loan, or go live in a women’s shelter. She has options men don’t have.
I have no desire to get tangled up with a late-life parasite.
I would rather spend my own golden years with money, freedom, friends and peace.
So… It’s not worth it… NO F~~~ING WAY.
I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.
It’d be like asking an ex-slave who’s worked up to owning a farm if he wants to go back to his old master!
I appreciate your honesty .. truly, thank you for that.
As guy ages, speaking about myself .. there are many thoughts that appear knowing that life is so short .. and in the blink of an eye .. I wake up one day and I am old.You’re lucky to have passed your years like in the blink of an eye. Mine passed so slow even though I lived at 200mph. It always felt like I had to do as much as I could in a short time, always on the go, always busy, always hurried like I had fire in my back pocket and still it went by slow. Then the divorce came and all the hell on earth one can imagine and I decided to slow down, way down to the point where I wouldn’t even run even if I was late for something important, f~~~ it.
Nowadays, I live my life so slowly that I might as well be in slow motion. Why hurry? F~~~ it! I take the time to enjoy things around me, observe anything that interests me regardless if I have to take a train or a plane, I take the time to look – really look – at things, anything, a tree, a car, a dragonfly… I hurry for no one and nothing.Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!I believe what happened to me this morning ..
instead of writing my usual sci-fi or old stuff, that i sometimes do, pool halls and sitting on old barrels and boxes
listening the the Beatles
I do believe all this might have been some kind of midlife crisis here .. something like a 20 year itch
if this one regression for me is all that it turns out to be, what i mean is that it didn’t cost
I believe I’ll get through it..thanks for the assistance and advice, appreciated
I think an interesting question would be do you think an AWALT can become a NAWALT over time? Can the wall knock a little AWALT out of Judy?
How about a widow? Maybe she really is a unicorn and was unlucky in that her husbank died before his time. And now she’s back on the market at 50. Is it really a unicorn, or when you get up close is it a rhino that’s going to run you over and kill you?
Because the way you describe the question, an AWALT’s gonna AWALT, the answer will always be no. The real question is have you burned your hand on the stove enough times. Or does this new stove look different? Is there a scenario where you believe that unicorns exist again?
I know the answer here will be no, but I see that as the bigger question. Is there ANY circumstance to make you even consider it again?
I can say, in 54 years, there is only one woman that I can think of that may be a unicorn. If she were single and showed up in my life, that would be the one circumstance that would make me wonder. Not saying I’d fall for it, but I’d check the horn to make sure it was attached.
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Anonymous38Fuuuuuuuck no.
There’s only one thing better with a woman present and even then not always, and rarely over 60!
Though, I do believe companionship is important. Theoretically I could enjoy a female companion, more of a lodger than a partner, someone with a nurturing soul.
I believe what happened to me this morning ..
instead of writing my usual sci-fi or old stuff, that i sometimes do, pool halls and sitting on old barrels and boxeslistening the the BeatlesI do believe all this might have been some kind of midlife crisis here .. something like a 20 year itchif this one regression for me is all that it turns out to be, what i mean is that it didn’t costI believe I’ll get through it
..thanks for the assistance and adviceNostalgia viewed thru rose colored glasses?
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
Fuuuuuuuck no.
There’s only one thing better with a woman present and even then not always, and rarely over 60!
Though, I do believe companionship is important. Theoretically I could enjoy a female companion, more of a lodger than a partner, someone with a nurturing soul.Cant f~~~ old women. Just would never, thats not what is attractive to me. My mental age is in my mid 20s, i like young bodies, fertile bodies, they can be soft and sometimes a little chub in the right places is fine, but old bodies do nothing for me. Would also need someone who actually likes sex, old women pretty much are done with it. They can all be my grandma or mom, no thanky.
Moot anyways since I have no desire to have sex with modern women today and risk my health and wallet and freedom.
Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.
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