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Anonymous3Red pill or not, anybody who has spent a reasonable amount of time here, will know what I’m talking about. There’s a trend here: Severe lack of sexual mastery. You run into these posts every single day pretty much. Hell, sex here is more often than not, referred to as a “need”. There are even men who mutilate themselves for sex, aka vasectomy.
I’m just curious, is there anybody here who actually practices true celibacy? No, I’m not talking about taking gallons of estrogen injection until your dick is limp 24/7, nor am I talking about turning your head away from women and focus on something else, nor am I talking about masturbating 10 times a day until you’re completely numb.
I’m talking about having control, discipline, willpower, and maintaining clarity of mind even when say for instance, being groped by attractive females, or when some porn is playing on the screen. Having the ability, of mind over matter, and just choosing ignore it, mastering one’s sex drive. Is there anybody here who does this?
Every turn I take here, I either just run into a post about “I have to get laid”, or “I’m getting a vasectomy so I can f~~~ women and hopefully not get f~~~ed over by them in courts, fingers crossed”, or “Just watch porn and jerk off”, or some other forms of sex zombie stuff, it’s a trend here as I’ve said.
I wonder how much of this is a need, and more of a form of inverted peer pressure. We see people of both gender having sex regularly with other people. And we are not. Mostly due to use understanding the inherent dangers of doing so. (From accidentally getting a woman pregnant, STDs, false accusation of a crime, to future child support extortion under threat of imprisonment.)
Also, keep in mind that sexual orgasms can cause the brain to release an endorphin rush. This is the same type of pleasurable rush that some drugs can create. As such, sex can be addictive. Sexual addition is a very real thing.
Though, as you point out, it comes down to self control, disciple, willpower, and maintaining clarity of mind. Not thinking about sex. Not viewing those having sex with envy. And realizing that are pros and cons to everything can help people deal with this.
So instead of doing any one of the relatively low impact things you denigrated to address your natural biological need for sexual congress and intimacy, you’re going to practice control, discipline, willpower, and maintaining clarity of mind in order to address your natural biological need for sexual congress and intimacy.
How is that any different?
I recognize and accept my natural biological needs. I’m not trying to act like I’m something I’m not or that I can change my nature (I don’t expect to change female nature, why would I expect to change male nature?). To provide myself with a reasonable level of protection, I got a vasectomy. I went in and in 30 minutes I was done. Now I don’t even have to think about it.
So tell me why you feel the need to avoid sex? Why are you so obsessed with not being obsessed with sex? And what are you going to do with yourself up to the point where you can exercise control, discipline, willpower, and maintaining clarity of mind with perfect precision?
All this focus on not focusing on sex is, to me, absurd. How about you just go ahead and have sex and do what you can to protect yourself? Life is full of risks and sex can be risky but it can also be deeply rewarding. To dedicate yourself to avoiding it sounds like a colossal waste of energy.
Come on, MGYOW, can’t we just go our own ways without trying to turn this into some silly philosophy or pointless mental discipline?
“Avoid women and don’t have sex” is not one of the laws of MGTOW. Quit trying to make it one.
Anonymous3“Avoid women and don’t have sex” is not one of the laws of MGTOW. Quit trying to make it one.
When did I ever say that in my post? It’s so obvious you came into this thread with an intent and agenda to rationalize your choices, and how dare I talk about celibacy in a seemingly positive way, especially since when you yourself did something else, I must be incorrect! I just have to be so you fired away.
All I said in my post was, is there anybody here who does this instead of that. It was a question. I didn’t say you have to do this and that. I didn’t tell you what to do. I didn’t say any of that. I said I made an observation and asked a question. Did I f~~~ing not?
Anonymous3It’s not a need, it’s just people with poor self restraint and lack of self confidence claim it is to justify their personal issues.
I am religious, so either I get married or I have to be celibate. Granted in my 20s probably I wouldn’t be able to do it, but from my 30s onwards it has been pretty easy for me.
I do not look at any porn though, and I avert my gaze from women in public, as Jesus taught.
If I look at porn, I can indeed masturbate, I guess that ability is there, but I choose not to. I have suggested often that men stop looking at porn, it is a trap.
Men are visually triggered. That’s a major reason why liberals try to make porn easily accessible and surreptitiously encourage men to view it. This is also why feminists want women running around practically naked, shoving their bodies in men’s faces, and then denying what they’re doing.
A man that rises above all of those petty games is very difficult for the Cultural Marxist machine to get at. Peer pressure as someone else mentioned does play into it too, and is the last bastion these women have left to try and impose their power.
Men of previous generations were not thirsty like the men of today. Even most MGTOW on here would be looked upon as effeminate losers by our forefathers. Women were always considered the desperate, sexual gender until roughly 50-60 years ago when things got inverted. Pretty much every piece of older writing that discusses women, throughout different eras, cultures and races, has been similar in that regard.
The modern world is very unique, proof that cultural programming can override any type of biological urge. It’s rather impressive. Would not surprise me if within another 50 years the majority of people become homosexuals, after being trained to be so. Even now you kind of see it, especially with how quickly women decided they hate sex with men.
How about you, Tungus, are you celibate? If so, how do you accomplish it?
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
As always, go your own way, sex, celibacy, or anything in between. Whatever. myself, I’m in the in between category, a place I arrived at after much deliberation and experience. It works for me. If it works, use it.
I am one of those. I don’t chase tail, so I hear you. I am bewildered myself how come people calling themselves MGTOW here, come to the boards and post s~~~ like “Yesterday I’ve been on a date with this chick and you won’t believe what happened…”. Pussy simply doesn’t magically descend on you unless you’re actively seeking. Going on dates equals actively chasing tail in my book.
Not like it’s anything wrong with chasing tail, but still – there is some hypocrisy build in here. Or maybe a split personality.
Again – I am not judging anyone, but I understand where he’s coming from. Because I am a MGTOW who doesn’t chase pussy, it is hard for me to understand what motivates MGTOW to engage in this behavior. Whatever floats your boat I guess, but I completely understand why this could be raising the question the OP is raising here.
Maybe it’s just me. I can’t go on a date and pretend I’m someone else and tolerate the bulls~~~ treatment just to bed someone. I could never be a used car salesmanproud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome
mastering one’s sex drive. Is there anybody here who does this?
I do try it, whenever I can but in an increasingly relaxed way (rather than in a forced one!) ie. keeping having a quiet-one-off-the-wrist down to a minimum. And of course I am getting better and better at it naturally by progressing in my age. Put it to you this way in a nutshell:
“For men grace comes naturally with age and for MGTOWs the mastering of their risk charged sex urges also naturally comes with age plus said grace. That’ll be the bust of the blue pill in more ways than one… … therefore I can gladly consider myself a happy and gracefully aging MGTOW.”
Any more questions…?
I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC
I don’t date in any conventional sense of the word and I don’t believe I chase pussy. If it’s offered, I occasionally accept. I also find that while it’s offered to me more now than even a few years ago, I’ve been accepting less often.
I guess you could say I’m slowly sliding towards celibacy.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
I’m in my 40s, at an age where the big head thinks more than the little head.
Seeing the obese, entitled, arrogant, facially ravaged, overly tattooed, ashtray breathed, debt-ridden single mothers that make up the available dating pool at this age REALLY affects the libido! I have no desire to make myself the ‘best’ version of myself that I can (i.e. money and muscles) just to get in the queue for a date with THAT. Win win, I guess.
Anonymous3How about you, Tungus, are you celibate? If so, how do you accomplish it?
Yeah I’m celibate. I’m also in my mid 20s with a standard sex drive, somewhat stronger nowadays now that I’m working out more and eating well, so I don’t think anybody can credit the dwindling libido here.
You really just have to do it. Commit to it and just DO IT. Easier said than done, but once you begin to gain confidence in your ability to control, everything kind of snowb~~~~ and you’re there. At first, I remember I would look at porn. I tell myself I’m going to do it for 2 minutes. When the time is up, I’m done. At times, I would get some offers when I was out, and when it’s time, my answer is no. Regardless of what happens and how you feel, maybe you have a mean hard on, maybe the porn is really hot, maybe a girl is sucking you off, you have got to commit.
Think of it like your workout. Think discipline. Commit to it 100%. I’m certainly not the best at it, but at the same time, I don’t think it’s as difficult as many people make it out to be.
I am one of those. I don’t chase tail, so I hear you. I am bewildered myself how come people calling themselves MGTOW here, come to the boards and post s~~~ like “Yesterday I’ve been on a date with this chick and you won’t believe what happened…”. Pussy simply doesn’t magically descend on you unless you’re actively seeking. Going on dates equals actively chasing tail in my book.
Not like it’s anything wrong with chasing tail, but still – there is some hypocrisy build in here. Or maybe a split personality.
Again – I am not judging anyone, but I understand where he’s coming from. Because I am a MGTOW who doesn’t chase pussy, it is hard for me to understand what motivates MGTOW to engage in this behavior. Whatever floats your boat I guess, but I completely understand why this could be raising the question the OP is raising here.
Maybe it’s just me. I can’t go on a date and pretend I’m someone else and tolerate the bulls~~~ treatment just to bed someone. I could never be a used car salesmanYeah, I have no problem with what men do with their little guys. If somebody wants to chase women, great, do it. But call it what it is, you know. Don’t say you’re above chasing women and then go out on a date the next day.
So you know what ? I have gone without pussy for about 5 years. Big deal (NOT).
But to ridicule men who watch porn or masturbate is just plain wrong.
That’s a form of female shaming language.For example :(Can’t get laid?).(Haven’t had pussy since pussy had you?)British women love to thro around the insult “wanker” Funny how tradcons,feminists and women’s interests seem to line up again and again.Tradcons hate that porn exists even though they secretly are some of its biggest users.Women mock and look down on men for looking at porn.But they also see it as a threat because men can find sexual release and satisfaction ouside of their control.
Fatso piglady feminist dwarkin testified against porn to the US congress.Mewhile
women are by far the biggest purchasers of sex toys by far.Dildo vibrators etc.I just don’t need the hassle and hazard of having or being around a woman.
Women are a hassle and a hazard and they know it.
The most honest ones will tell you
“Baby I’m worth it”Because they are unable to conceive that men have better things to do then to put with and tolerate them .
They cannot imagine that a man would think “Damn I don’t need all this hassle, sex or no sex” and just Go His Own Way.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
So instead of doing any one of the relatively low impact things you denigrated to address your natural biological need for sexual congress and intimacy, you’re going to practice control, discipline, willpower, and maintaining clarity of mind in order to address your natural biological need for sexual congress and intimacy.
How is that any different?
If I can control myself, I can control the world.
I am celibate and expect to remain so for the entirety of my life, my age is 23.
I am monk mode. I don’t trust any woman to let her get that close to me. I don’t see this changing any time soon.
This is one those thing I don’t even think about or question. Just like I wouldn’t question why I like pizza. It’s a biological thing like taking a p~~~. Try “actively practicing” not taking a p~~~. Can’t be done.
I need to nut every few days – whether there is woman there or not – or I will start throwing things and can get pretty aggressive. Much calmer when I do. But I don’t have a NEED for a woman to be there. As long as a man is pleasuring himself, his fantasies will always go exactly the way HE wants them to.
How many men can say that about their girlfriends or wives?
Since women don’t (generally) actively initiate or pursue sex / dating & mating themselves (and they rely on men to pursue it) …. the only thing a man has to do is NOT PURSUE IT.
That’s not “actively practicing” celibacy.
It’s just —>> not pursuing sex.It doesn’t require any effort to not get laid.
I have said this before, but women are like those knife-sharpening wheels with a stool. As long as you pump the pedal, there is something happening and you may even see sparks(!), but release your foot from the pedal and nothing’s ever going to happen. They are designed to RESPOND.
Actively practicing celibacy would require a woman to lay back with her legs in the air without any prompting and say “give it to me big daddy”…. and then you would have to say “no”.
How often does that happen? Only once was non-girlfriend sex ever that easy for me, where a woman knocked on my door and broke through it with intention to f~~~ that I was totally unaware of.
So if sex is free and on the table, suregreatfine.
The only thing I “practice” is bitch-slapping that message pumped into our heads on a daily basis that we need a woman around and in our lives. Or that we “NEED” to get laid. Any woman who perpetuates that lie in my presence is f~~~ing toast. If she plays the withholding game, I just give her the Bill Burr line and tell her that’s the dumbest game she can possibly play.
“ha ha you’re not getting laid tonight”.
“That’s like trying to putting a chain around my fridge when I have an infinite supply sandwiches in my pocket. I’ll just jerk off right in front of you and squirt on your dress. You lose. Now what.”
She’s not withholding jack s~~~. I’m nutting with or without her. ++PLUS!! In my fantasy, she’s years younger and more attractive with a better rack, so WTF is she talking about? If she’s not 100% willing to turn around, bend over and touching the floor while peeling her panties off FOR me, I’m not even gonna be INTERESTED in her. I would prefer she wasn’t even there!
That’s not practicing celibacy.
But it’s also not actively pursuing it.Pussy simply doesn’t magically descend on you unless you’re actively seeking. Going on dates equals actively chasing tail in my book.
This is exactly what I’m talking about.
AND PS. TUKUSKHAN. Great to see you again.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I’ll look up some data on it later but for men having orgasms reduces the chance of prostate cancer.
So anyone who wants to criticize men for jerking off I’ll tell them to go to Hell .
Women do it too and a lot of them will lie about it .Just look up dildo sales etc.
frankly my dear i don't give a damn
Women do it too and a lot of them will lie about it .Just look up dildo sales etc.
10% of women masturbate. The other 90% are liars.
Where I often call woman out, is when women go out on a “date” with this “no sex” frigid attitude. Im like bitch who the f~~~ are you kidding. After dinner, you’re gonna go home and dildo yourself with the cat in the room, so WTF are you talking about “no sex”?
Try NO DATE. How do you like that.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I’ll look up some data on it later but for men having orgasms reduces the chance of prostate cancer.
So anyone who wants to criticize men for jerking off I’ll tell them to go to Hell .
Women do it too and a lot of them will lie about it .Just look up dildo sales etc.
Not whacking at all is not good for you. You need periodic release for your own sanity and well being. Anyone who thinks it’s bad to whack needs a reality check.
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