Anxiety in Public

[IndependentlyFreeParticipant 108]

I always thought I was crazy, but whenever I am my normal MGTOW-self and not caring about other people, yet actively trying to avoid women and not give them preferential treatment if forced to interact with them, I can tell that people don’t like me. Its like they know im not playing their game, not on their “team” to say.I’m not against them, I just wanna be left alone. But that isn’t good enough for them. they want me to be a productive member of society, and engage in the family having ways. I DONT want that because of what it means nowadays. I woulda wanted it 100 years ago probably, but not in 2018. However, I am fine with not marrying, but i am just SO ANXIOUS all the time. Someone said women are traps, not guns. I just dont believe that. I really think we are persecuted. What can i do about this because it is legitimately taking its toll on my health.

Don't be a slave. Be yourself.

[TwistParticipant]

Exercise has been shown to help. Do a lot of it. Know your body and you will know your mind.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

IndependentlyFree wrote:

I really think we are persecuted. What can i do about this because it is legitimately taking its toll on my health.

Are you a chick?? Get over yourself. Stop caring what others think about you — it’s feminine to do so. You would be surprised how little others care what you do or say.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Anonymous 3]

IndependentlyFree wrote:

I can tell that people don’t like me. Its like they know im not playing their game, not on their “team” to say.I’m not against them, I just wanna be left alone.

That says right there that you still care about what people think.

And that is normal, because almost everybody cares about what others think.

Not caring is actually difficult. You may end up trying to get people away from you instead what most people do that is: trying to attract others.
Getting people away from you is not ghosting, it is just painting a target in your back.

Ghosting is acting polite, but never allowing emotional attachments to form.

That is NFG.

Learn to read your emotions. Talk with them, ask them what do they want. You will be surprise with how much you can learn about yourself.

[MonkParticipant 17050]

Most people are Blue Pill.

Blue Pill people are stupid.

I don’t care what stupid people think.

[AwakenedParticipant 35206]

Sometimes, we can be our own worse enemies, and create things/situations/scenarios that only exist between our ears.

RELAX, Most people are to self-absorbed to be overly concerned about other, especially others that are quiet, keep to themselves, and mind their own business.

Relax, and Ghost On !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Branched offParticipant 10980]

Generally the best cure for anxiety is to slowly approach the fear, just past your comfort zone but to the point where you are still in control. Then just stay there till the anxiety lowers. Next time you can get a little closer. This works for anxiety in public but it takes time and dedication.

As to people not liking you for not being a team player -think about it a lot. Don’t let it get you down but do think about the implications. No man is an island. No man should be a serf to a system or to a woman. You need to find the balance. This takes practise. Unless you want to live in the woods using only stone tools you need other people for some things. You need to look at what you can do for them in return that is a fair exchange -not that is more than fair because this is unfair on you.

If you are not a tram player kind of guy and people’s reaction bugs you, then you need to over the years learn to be a better team player, not to the point where you sell out your soul just to the point where you are getting what you want from people in a fair exchange and you are getting companionship and friendship as much as you need them. You could learn not to care but then life will probably be quite limited for you as few people will offer you opportunities.

These things take time. If you are a young man don’t worry too much. Men learn these things later sometimes. Whatever you do don’t worry excessively, its bad for you.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[Anonymous 18]

Spetsnaz said it best:

To be empowered is to shake off others perception of you.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22568]

“Anxiety in Public”

When you have to go in public, pay attention to through around you. Stay in within range of the cameras, that is a double edge sword.

Do not talk to people unless you have. Avoid large groups. Pay attention to those around you. Avoid families and children. Keep arms length between you and everyone else.

When going to restaurants, only go inside to the restaurants which the locally owned, whom you know the workers and owners in person.

For the restaurants, use a drive through. It is not easy being seen as threatening when you are sitting down and their were two to three feet of empty space between you and the cashier.

If you want to go to the theater, go on a matinee during a school day, when all the kids are in school.

If there is an issue, always remain polite.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

From keeping up with the Jonses, to “you should” to “do the right thing” we are all brainwashed and programmed to care what others think that is why political correctness takes hold and is so useful to those who want to silence thought and speech.

Break out of the prison of caring what others think.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

If you can pull it back some and get the anxiety/panic controlled. Turn it into a sense of awareness of what is going on around you,..is a key part of going grey man. A survival technique in today’s world.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

Our minds are programmed to believe whatever it is we are telling ourselves repeatedly.

So if you constantly engage in negative self-talk, expect too much of yourself and others, believe that you “should” or “have to” do something or act a certain way in order to feel good about yourself, or if you tell yourself that others don’t like you or in some way they have it out for you — well, my friend, your brain is hearing a constant message and will adapt to these inputs, and simply act out accordingly.

How you frame your thoughts might be the key to unlocking and reducing the anxiety you feel plagued with now. Train your mind, control your internal dialog.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[IndependentlyFreeParticipant 108]

I appreciate the responses, however I don’t agree with a lot of your opinions. For example, one guy said, “Are you a chick?? Get over yourself. Stop caring what others think about you — it’s feminine to do so. You would be surprised how little others care what you do or say.”

I don’t mind being called a chick, but i dont like someone saying that you can just get over what other think about you. If I am being me, then ill act like it, and its not normally in conjunction with societies standards if im not watering myself down, this in turn garners attention from people. So to not care, doesnt make sense. You have to care to survive, because if you don’t care, you’ll make a mistake that will get you in trouble. Nothing crazy but like, not giving a woman what she wants at work for example. Its your JOB and you NEED it, so you have to play slave to the system. People talk about MGTOW for relationships, but forget about the rest of the time they’re a slave.

Don't be a slave. Be yourself.

[AwakenedParticipant 35206]

IndependentlyFree wrote:

So to not care, doesnt make sense

To NOT Care Makes A LOT of Sense, but NOT Caring doesn’t Mean to be reckless; It means to STOP Caring about the so Many Unimportant things in Life, like what others think about you, and Focus ALL that Wasted energy On YOURSELF.

Learning No F~~~s Given is a Learned process, and it means so much more then simply to “not care”, but that is a starting point.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[IndependentlyFreeParticipant 108]

“If you can pull it back some and get the anxiety/panic controlled. Turn it into a sense of awareness of what is going on around you,..is a key part of going grey man. A survival technique in today’s world.
”

THIS

At least someone is confirming its real, and that we are persecuted because we don’t give a s~~~ about women or their preferential treatment. Someone said maintain frame…but like saying think positively. Isn’t that not what MGTOW is about? We’re not lying to ourselves about other people, in a negative nor a positive way, were just letting the truth flow into us through observation? Its not like im engaging in negative self-talk, its just my observations of how people treat me seems to be that they only want something from you. And if you dont give it to the women, they’re indignant and mad and you WILL be a target. Am i wrong?

Don't be a slave. Be yourself.

[Anonymous 54]

Mabey you are better than average at perceiving others thoughts, or the vibe around you.

Sometimes its best to hone your acting skills. To pretend you fit in.

Makes you less of a target.

On stronger days, be your self and tell them to p~~~ off. Like you did here!

Hope that helps.

[DocParticipant]

Don’t over think it.
YOU are in control. Not them.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[IndependentlyFreeParticipant 108]

Don’t over think it.
YOU are in control. Not them.

I wiiiiish that were true. Im certainly in control of myself, but not how they respond to me. And like I previously said, its not like you can just ignore them. Im MGTOW in my head, and aware of female nature. Its soul-sucking, they only interact to get something from you. Yet, I am not forced to interact, but im forced to choose between ignoring them and have a target on my back, or interacting and having no target.

Don't be a slave. Be yourself.

[hmskl’dParticipant 6414]

A person, any person .. tends to move in the direction of their dominant thoughts.

[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

I have the same problem and I deal with it daily. Its a real thing. The best thing all the websites and counselors agree works is Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (talking to a counselor). In my case I didn’t want to spend the cash so I read a few books about this subject and gave myself my own CBT.

Each night I purposely go to bed early 1-2 hours, and I think about what is making me anxious and why. I look at it logically and slay these anxiety demons by using my INTELLECT and BRAIN to override my emotions.

I have found this works. Especially since in bed, at night alone, I am not actually confronted by specific immediate anxieties, and I am not in the role of having to perform in some capacity, like at my job.

When I do this I really take on the role of counselor and divide that perspective from myself. Its like I am saying: Why did that person (who is actually me) feel anxious meeting with that customer? That doesn’t make sense? This perspective enables me to view it outside of myself as irrational, while simultaneously being able to get to the root emotional causes.

Anyways… I can’t say that it will work for you but it might.

Here is a link to some natural remedies I just found, some I have tried.

http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20669377,00.html#take-a-forest-bath–0

But you have my support because I know its a real thing.

Smoking tons of weed helps me too.

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