Another Welfare Bitch Found

[Anonymous 22]

She should try to cover her face somehow. She is fat. And finding healthy food is not difficult. In the USA it’s very easy! It’s not like here in Thailand where it’s much more difficult.

She can go to the subway and get vegetarian sandwiches for her and her children. They’re very cheap also. I have zero respect for that f~~~ing bitch.

She is trying to get attention. F~~~ you bitch. Lose some weight, you f~~~ing cow.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

sidecar wrote:

So again, you can’t make a dollar to dollar comparison between the WW2 debt and our current debt because the war debt was spent on things that made it easier to repay while our current debt was spent on things that make it all but politically impossible to fix.

Not really…what did we spend money on in WWII? Tanks and planes that sat on a base when the war ended? Payroll and care for troops that had to go find new jobs after the war? Munitions that were used up during fighting? None of that stuff was really important for economic growth once the war ended. How did any of that stuff make it easier to repay debt when the war ended?

What actually happened was after the war ended government spending dropped drastically. We didn’t balance the budget based on war spending, we balanced the budget when government spending got cut down to a third of what it peaked at. What’s really disgusting is our sustained government spending right now is more than it was at the peak of WWI, and almost as high as peak spending of WWII and politicians apparently can’t agree that certain things need trimmed.

If spending was cut right now to the same % of GDP it was post WWII we’d instantly have a balanced budget. Considering healthcare and pensions are over half of our federal budget if nobody is willing to take a swing at those things it will be pretty much impossible to balance the budget, even if we cut our military and welfare spending in half it wouldn’t do the trick if we won’t come up with reasonable healthcare reform that amounts to more than spreading the excessive costs around and we do something with the unfunded pension time bomb that is only going to get worse as more boomers retire and expect fat pensions their generation didn’t want to fund while working.

Its not that we spent on better things economically back then because most of the war related jobs simply went away after the war. All the women working in factories became baby mamas and all the soldiers coming home had to find jobs that weren’t war related. If you want to argue we built factories during the war that were retooled shortly after…its really no different today, we have plenty of empty factories sitting around thanks to all the companies that fled for lower tax/cheaper countries. The spending we did do while running up our WWII debt was temporary and could easily be throttled down when no longer needed, where as today people voting for handouts and the politicians they put in office are making it impossible to reduce spending.

To be fair…I’m just saying its possible to fix things still…but I’m a pessimist that it will ever actually be done because it will be too unpopular with the millions of people waiting with their hands out. Its also why I’m hoping to have enough horded to retire and leave the country within the next 10 years. I don’t want to be around when taxes start to go up to pay for s~~~ a previous generation promised themselves on the back of my generation, and I certainly don’t want to be around when the system collapses as a result of that since its obvious nobody has the desire to fix it, they wall just want to milk it and hope it doesn’t implode while they’re dependent on it. Yeah welfare and failed social engineering policies are part of the problem, but they aren’t the entire problem.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Beer wrote:

Not really…what did we spend money on in WWII? Tanks and planes that sat on a base when the war ended?

But apart from the minimal cost of materials like iron and aluminum, the money that went into buying tanks and planes didn’t actually go into the tanks and planes themselves. It went into smelters and tooling and factory construction and technology development and all the other things needed to be able to make tanks and planes etc. better, faster, and cheaper. After the war ended were we supposed to close those factories and smelters, smash the tools, and forget the knowledge? That’s valuable infrastructure that can be readily converted to civilian production once the war is over. Civilian production that drives an economy that generates the surplus that can sold for profits that can be taxed to pay off the war debt incurred to build the factories in the first place.

Payroll and care for troops that had to go find new jobs after the war?

Well trained troops that after the war became a well trained and well disciplined civilian work force for producing goods. Troops that also after the deprivations of war were primed and ready to become a huge consumer market for all the goods they had put off during the war years. Goods and services that they themselves or other returning soldiers were producing. Thus we got the massive increase in economic activity after the war for the government to tax and use to pay down the war debt.

Munitions that were used up during fighting?

Munitions require tooling and factories and logistics just like tanks and planes do. See above.

And speaking of munitions, for all the money that went into the Manhattan Project, it only produced two bombs used in the war. But the knowledge that money paid for was turned around after the war for “atoms for peace”, generating power that ran the factories that made the products that were sold for the profits that were skimmed for the taxes that paid off the war debt that paid for the Manhattan Project.

None of that stuff was really important for economic growth once the war ended. How did any of that stuff make it easier to repay debt when the war ended?

See above.

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