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Which is an awesome thing about fleshlights. You can use it as you wish, get drunk, and stay home not having to worry about DUIs, nightclubs, bars, etc.
I’ve always hated the nightclub/bar scene in general. Plus, I know multiple women use men to get free dinners and drinks. Not to mention you have to worry about the white knights/manginas more if you’re trying to score and if they come up to you wanting to start s~~~, you’re in big trouble if you’re a little guy like me. (I’m 5’5 and 135 pounds)
I’m early 30s now. I don’t think I grew up MGTOW though. I guess I’d say I grew up a blue piller with a back bone. I thought women were better than they are and if I just worked hard and was a good guy karma would see to it that I’d stumble upon my unicorn some day, but at the same time I never became a doormat for one, tolerated games, or became pussy whipped.
I had a few girls I dated in highschool, but never got into a serious relationship. They were pretty much a bunch of dumbasses that just wanted to play games, and I’ve never been one for playing games. I just chalked it up to them being young and dumb.
I spent most of my late teens and early 20s not dating much…I was focused on getting through school debt free. Between work and school I didn’t have much free time, and when I did get a night off I was quite content just doing something with the guys.
Mid 20s I had a few serious relationships that lasted about 6 months. Let’s just say none of them ended with me wanting her back….ever. None of them did anything to improve my opinions of women. I actually realized at this point, they were really the same dumbasses I dated in highschool, just with a few more years to run up the c~~~ count and to perfect their games.
Once I got into my late 20s, I realized, being single really is preferable to being involved with a modern woman. Sure…sex is nice…but I really don’t want what comes attached to the vagina these days in my life. I have the freedom to do what I want, when I want, with who I want, I have complete control over my finances, both present and future, and my life is basically completely free of any drama or stress at all! I just completely lost interest in dating.
Fast forward a few more years and it gets even better. In the last few years I polished off a second degree at school, made some great strides career wise and financially, thanks to not having to take classes anymore have a lot more free time to enjoy life, etc, all while coming to realize being single isn’t a bad thing and having practically no interest in relationships has made me just an overall happier person. Its like women can tell when you are happy and they just want to ruin it by worming their way into your life…only when you are on to their games you don’t let them. Plus soon as they find out where I work its obvious I must make some decent money…so I’m sure that plays a part as well.
I’ve been hit on three times in the last month by random girls, and had a fourth that had a mutual contact try to drop some bait for me…but the quality is just sad. Between all the single moms and obese women out there…I don’t ever think it sucks that I can’t find a quality woman…I think that 5 years ago, most of those fatties and single moms weren’t fatties or single moms. Had I got married or had a kid, chances are today I’d be stuck paying child support to one of those single moms, or be stuck in a marriage with a disgusting land whale I can’t even stand to look at, let alone see naked or have sex with.
Going my own way wasn’t really something I wanted, something I planned on from a young age, or even something I think would be preferable if I had the option to travel back in time 70 years and bring a real woman back with me from an era where women had class and actually took pride in their feminine qualities…its simply a reaction to what women have become. I’m not willing to put anything on the line for a woman that has already been around the block after fully understanding how divorce hungry women are and how our biased court system will do everything in its power to appease her appetite. It doesn’t make me happy or sad…it just is what it is. The only regret I really see myself having when I think about what my life will be like if I never have any future relationships with women is that I won’t have kids…but what is really sad is with how our legal system allows a woman to own me if we have a child together, I think I’d regret having kids even more.
Twenty-two year old here. Could you elaborate a bit on what exactly “better” means? And, for that matter, on what “it” is that gets “better”? Much obliged.
Some more on how it “gets better”. With some backstory. For reference i’m now 36 years old.
tl;dr – “***Life*** gets better. A f~~~ing lot better.”
About 3 years ago my (now ex) wife broke my heart. I divorced her. My life was hell for about two months. Finally said f~~~ it, i’ll do something just for me, just for once. Hell, it can’t get any worse.
Prior to that i didn’t do all the things i wanted to, because there was always someone nagging or bitching or otherwise getting in the way (ex, as well as family). Not anymore.
– So i took some dance lessons. It was fun. I actually enjoyed it. And met some cool people.
– Then i started working out. I lost fat, gained strength & confidence.
– I spent some time volunteering in latin america. I did some really great work, met some great people, improved my Spanish, visited a total of 7 countries.
– I spent more time & energy @ work. Made more money. Now i’m on track to semi-retire at 45 on a beach in Latin America somewhere.
– I spent $$$ on clothes that i really like. I have them all tailored. I dress well & i enjoy it. Not because of how other people like it. But because i like what i see when i look in the mirror.
– I wanted to be more comfortable socially. So i spent $$$ working with a therapist, who could help me break down models of social interaction, and map out the discrete process steps (if this sounds strange, it’s because i’m really analytic, and social situations are anything but lol).All of these things bring me joy, and a sense of accomplishment in my life. So that’s how my life has gotten better, and continues to do so.
These changes didn’t happen overnight, but they did happen. When i realized that i should be living my life for me, not for a wife/girlfriend. Even now i have “knee-jerk” reactions to helping women, or feeling like i should say “yes” to everything – it’s really strong conditioning.
Also, you don’t have to be a multimillionaire like a Tom Leykis or whatever to enjoy life. When you don’t have to pay s~~~ for a gf/wife/kids, a regular guys’ salary goes a long f~~~ing way.
Anonymous7Im 18 and its a bitch. Majority of college women expect to be alpha in their interactions with men.
Pair-bonding is a basic human need, as much as eating or drinking is
I certainly disagree with this. I haven’t dated in 15 years it will be 16 years this summer. If it was that much of a need I would be wanting to be bonding with a woman right? I can do without women forever however I can only go without water for 2 weeks. I can without food probably 30 to 40 days. Btw I know this because when I was homeless I passed out after not drinking water for 2 weeks.
"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle
MAN >> WOMAN >> CHILDREN >> PUPPIES
It never works in reverse.
Not sure that is entirely true KM, I feel like a Dog actually has the capacity to love you back, hell even children seem to; really it’s the women who are the problem (a shocking proposal I know)
Going my own way wasn’t really something I wanted, something I planned on from a young age, or even something I think would be preferable if I had the option to travel back in time 70 years and bring a real woman back with me from an era where women had class and actually took pride in their feminine qualities…its simply a reaction to what women have become. I’m not willing to put anything on the line for a woman that has already been around the block after fully understanding how divorce hungry women are and how our biased court system will do everything in its power to appease her appetite. It doesn’t make me happy or sad…it just is what it is. The only regret I really see myself having when I think about what my life will be like if I never have any future relationships with women is that I won’t have kids…but what is really sad is with how our legal system allows a woman to own me if we have a child together, I think I’d regret having kids even more.
Really liked this quote here; having dreamed about the happy married life up until only about a year ago (26 now), some part of me still wishes it could happen.
But as you said it simply is not a realistic expectation, and so I am happy to instead live a quietly content MGTOW lifestyle.
I´m 26 now and I could say I just directed my attention elswhere. It took some time but I figured that if you got other passions and goals that you care about it virtually overrides any pair-bonding needs. I simply got busy and it works like goddamn charm. Lot of time gets spent in my flight training. When I´m not training I´m making money so I could keep training. Then I self study at home. If I´m lucky and have any power and time left I work out outside.
At the end of the day I desire nothing but sleep. So if someone asked me about my sex life after all that I wouldn´t even what that word means. No need for porn whatsoever and less tissue papers expended.
I used to do one night stands, even rented hookers now and then before I got into this lifestyle but I called it quit soon. Boring, dissatisfiing, expensive, toxic, you name it.
Not saying I could´t be swayed if some sly chick would get a lock on that would be a lie. I´m still a straight male by design so I certainly could be. But try to sway me when I´m 15,000 feet above youAs for my age I´m totally lucky I discovered mgtow so early. None of the things I´m doing wouldn´t be possible otherwise.
Qui audet adipiscitur - Who dares, wins
I was still under 30 in today’s society as it stands. I used to be horny as f~~~ at that age and going longer than a week without sex had me pulling my hair out.
Fleshlights had not yet been invented when I was under 30. They would have been a Godsend for me but better late than never.
I do know that whenever I got out of a relations~~~ where I was getting regular sex that it took me a while to get back into monk mode. Kind of like quitting smoking.
I’ve heard so much about these fleshlights! I’m still a traditional jerker!
“”Kind of like quitting smoking.””. I see what you mean by this. After 15 years and my age to an extent, I suppose I’ve kicked the habit.
Thanks to all of you for answering my question. I’ve noticed many guys now use on-line porn, myself included. This is another thing that wasn’t around when I was younger. There was nothing worse than trying to jerk off to the memory of your previous sexual partner, someone you no longer wanted to associate with!Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.
I’m 20 and belong to the ‘socialy awkward’ group. I prefer the internet over ‘socializing’ and what other people call ‘living a real life’, but I prefer the internet events over my real-life events. Some might say its a bad thing but its not unusual in my generation. At east people don’t get the chance to mock at you; you don’t need to constanty groom yourself to suit ‘other people’s needs’.
Never had a problem with my sexual life; never have sex and choose to remain a virgin till the end of my days; yeah I agree sometimes I go “wonder how it would have been,” but then again I remember the feminists’ protests about how mae sexuality kept oppressing women and I go “Well, one more celibate guy, one less woman oppressed.” I find girls attractive but I’m super uncomfortabe if I have to be in the vicinity of one, let alone be speaking to one. I plan on living with my mom for the rest of her days (considering both my brother wil get married and get separated) and then live ife to the fullest til the end of MY days. Haven’t got much planned and woud ive life as it comes to me.
Yeah and of course, ive like a ghost. Works better that way; much less stress to the brain.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Anonymous0I’m 31 now. Had my first run in about a year ago. Its all fresh. I was abused physically and emotionally. I looked beyond her and at the reason of why and how women can get away with it all. The answers I found were deeply disturbing and I almost lost my life because of it. Truth is we are nothing in the eyes of society. We don’t matter to them. We never will matter. Love is a false construct. It does not exist. It was an idea created to enslave your mind to bond with women and society. We all have a need for connection. We must ask ourselves consistently is it worth it? Most of the time it is not for I and I can imagine for some of you it is not either.
The only regret I really see myself having when I think about what my life will be like if I never have any future relationships with women is that I won’t have kids…but what is really sad is with how our legal system allows a woman to own me if we have a child together, I think I’d regret having kids even more.
That’s why we must support surrogacy and artificial wombs…
Just imagine the future: a robot (or maybe two, or three) doing housechores, sex toys and virtual reality porn, and an articial womb when you wish a kid.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
For the dating landscape as a teen in modern america it generally poor. Most girls are either fat, ugly, or have little proportions (no t~~~). There are a few attractive women but you have to be a complete asshole to get with them (im a asshole so i have little problems but other dudes are not) to avoid being put in the friendzone. Hot chicks are a tiny minority (about 15%) and are mostly either italian or some form of latina, The ugly chicks usually are anglos or sometimes indian. You older mgtow can ask me anything?
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Anonymous11I’ve heard so much about these fleshlights! I’m still a traditional jerker!
BB666, you and I are about the same age. I’ve only jerked once in the 2.5 months I’ve owned one. It’s much healthier for the ol’ tool to not use your hand. I think I suffered from death grip syndrome where your brain and rod nerves connection gets dulled. My sensitivity has returned thanks to the Fleshlight. It’s not as good as the real pussy of a Unicorn, but I’ve never met any Unicorns.
@anonymous: When I was a teen back in the 80s, everyone was way slimmer. I look at these younger women and wonder just how big they are going to be when they’re 40. You’re right about them responding to being an asshole. I am not an asshole unless I have to be then I am a supreme asshole.
Why should I be something I’m not to attract something that will turn on me w/o warning? Even the assholes I know that have “the girl” are all miserable and stressed out from dealing with their women.
Plus, they all say they want a “nice guy” 😉
I’m 20.
I always tended to have a lot of pride, and even as a kid, I would just cringe at my schoolmates trying to get a kiss from a girl by doing everything she wanted.
To me they looked like pets girls could make anything they wanted with.
I hate obeying to anyone I don’t deem worthy of respect.
Most girls my age seem to be mindless t~~~s. So you know the result.I’ve tried dating, and to be honest, every time I was more than 30 minutes into the conversation, I just wanted to leave because let’s face it, the vast majority of women have no opinion and no real f~~~ing conversation.
Once, I asked a women what she liked about what she was studying, she couldn’t even answer.
It’s like they’re just cruising through a see of dicks with their brains off and autopilot on.
Truly unbelievable, lmao.Obviously that’s the kinda s~~~ that makes women say “You’re just picking bad girls, I’m not like this.”
Problem is, all girls say this anyway, so we mgtow’s know there’s some people trying to bulls~~~ males into relations~~~s.Now it’s the same, I don’t put up with anyone’s s~~~, I don’t even confront them, I just leave,I don’t want them to have any fun starting a dramaf~~~fest with me.
It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.
http://www.kidstrangelove.com/2014/03/20/im-glad-i-was-a-sexless-hopeless-unattractive-nerd/
Bullets Dodged,
Look at any rejection as bullets dodged, I’m 44, and although this article is PUA game inspired, it still has a lot to say about life from a male perspective, and puts female intimacy in a rational and logical perspective.
I’ll sum it up as Sex yes, committment NO, and you still have STD’s and child support to contend with.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
I live in that solitude which is painful in youth, but delicious in years of maturity. Einstein
I feel it is difficult to understand the above quote until you are actually there and that does not happen until you reach your 40’s. I must agree with you bb666 that in your 30’s the desire is still to great and I would probably make most of the same mistakes I made 20 years ago chasing tail. Not that I am one to speak of my spanking prowess, but the fleshlight(which I had never heard of until I got on here) is pretty f~~~ing good. I think a combination of fleshlight and quarterly trips to the Sportsman’s lodge in San Jose shall suffice until the end of times…
It's never to late to be what you might have been...
I’m 21 turning 22 in three months.
The thing about MGTOW is that no matter how young you are you will always wish you discovered the truth earlier.
It would have helped a lot to know the truth about women when I was I child.
The three things I wish I knew back then are:1- We were raised to see women as goddesses. The best thing you could achieve to your life was a “good woman to start a family with”. We were told to protect them and excuse everything they did. Gods can’t be held responsible for their actions because their worshippers are the ones who pay. That’s why women get a free pass everytime.
This is something that is subtly enforced. No parents tell their sons that women are goddesses but they teach their sons to treat women like they are some sort of superior race. You are supposed to do everything to make her happy and make sacrifices for her. Like you would do for a god.
I’m not against religions and I respect everyone’s beliefs and respect those who don’t believe in anything. I consider myself a christian but I disagree with all that is taught about women and I believe many of the things are said to make us conform to our roles.
2- Relationships with women are a no win situation. No matter what you do you will get screwed and you will be blamed by everyone like everything was entirely your fault. Actually that applies to every interaction a man has with a woman. This isn’t going to change until women lose the position of goddesses in society. Women are aware they are worshipped and they like it. That’s why they always attack ideas that would make true equality happen.
3- People don’t want you to live alone because off three reasons.
A) that way you are not useful to them as society. They want you as a tool.
B) they envy us
C) they want to control you like a toy. It excites them to have control over another person’s life.
That’s why everyone tries to shame us into pursuing women to start a family. That is way they will always say anything to convince you to commit.You can live without women if you want to do so. We are no animals, we can build our ways and choose our lifes. You can tell society to f~~~ itself and follow your dreams. You just have to ignore all the worshippers trying to stop you. Sex is fun and only a body function and if you need you can watch porn and masturbate. There’s no need to enslave yourself for Sex. Sex isn’t the way to achieve happiness and it is can be used against you if are not paying attention.
These are the three biggest reasons I turned MGTOW. My life is SO much better now. Sorry for writing such a long text.
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