Am I betraying my ancestors by not passing on their genes?

[debt slayerrrrParticipant 36]

don’t let abstract ideas dupe you into have kids.

I’m an odd one as well, no worries.

[,Participant 1301]

just sayin,

yep I’d do it all again and even with the same wife of 28 yrs. The divorce and the money grab was stupid and unnecessary. It did not ruin my relationship with my kids.
She was not the worse pick of the lot, the divorce was something unforgivable everything else could have been overcome. I don’t hate her, I just pay. I’d have spent it on her anyway if we were still together but HER WAY gave me complete freedom after 9 yrs. Under 6 to go and f~~~, NO ONE will take my inner Happiness, ever! For if they succeed in that, their world is going to make them cry for eternity; I’ll ensure that. ( I have one SuperRed Pill for emergency use ONLY )

Have a lot of friends that did not reproduce. They are fine with that and only a couple appear to emit any kind of perceptible remorse.

You build kids, men are builders where most modern wymmin are watchers. Late to realize, so I’m building them still as they allow. And they vote with their mind.(not mine)

“The Kids are Alright”
Rah!

with joy/without hate

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Well said MRHOW! Don’t think you will find a dad that would not crawl through all the s~~~ again for the kids he has. The “men build kids” part was spot on brotha.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

After all the s~~~ I have been through, I still love folding my 10 year old’s socks while he sleeps on the bed being dead tired after fishing all day. Or how proud I am when my girl tells her teacher that common core is ” bulls~~~” and that she was taught quadratic equations and trig by her dad three years ago and that she doesn’t need to “color the parallelogram” in the group of shapes.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Anonymous 0]

Your free will gives you the right to do what you will. I would say do not feel obligated to ancestry, and I don’t think they would condemn you for not doing so. What men face today was never around in their time. If you believe you’ll see them again one day, then when you see them you can tell them all about the world and what it became. Or they would likely already know what has happened to the world.

My line also ends with me and I do not feel obligated to my ancestors to continue the gene pool. I do not even feel obligated to immediate family on this issue. F~~~ them too, if that is all they want out of me or from me then I will gladly happily let my genes die with me. A bit of spite to put them in their place and allow me to do what I want. F~~~ that s~~~, I am going to do what is best for me and, if my ancestors don’t like it then they can all go to hell.

[Y_Participant 4591]

Greg Honda wrote:

What gives me the right to throw away this DNA? When I think what unimaginable hardships they put up with in pre history to continue their line, and I bail due to social constraints on my freedom in a Gynocentric world.

Take heart Greg – for humanity is only an interim life form.

A Nobel Laureate once wrote that the species we will turn into – that which will watch the sun die – will be as far removed from us as we are from the amoeba.

They will have no memory of us or any use for our ‘human’ adjuncts. Well before that time our race as we know it will cease to exist – perhaps in some ways that is for the better.

There is no real continuity for any of us – our rationalisations are only a mirror for our irrational fear of dying and not having anything to show for it. Offspring represent immortality – albeit vicarious. Again it is the lizard brain whispering – to offer yourself as a sacrifice for a humanity that is already doomed to extinction.

If you want a legacy that is truly immortal – then look to make a difference in someone’s life or society in ways that best suit you. Contribute your very own weaves into the rich tapestry of existence that is immune to the acid test of time.

The choice of Achilles is as much as we are allowed to aspire to in our short and painful lives.

Peace and strength.

[globemasterParticipant 443]

Buddha, said that not taking birth is the ultimate happiness. World is a place of suffering, every living thing suffers till death.Death is seen as a sad thing but it is actually a way out of the misery.

Had you not born you would have been happy without even existing. I sometimes feel i should make my children happy by not having them.

The goal of having children is for security in your old age, but sadly no children takes care of their parents nowadays.

Or you can f~~~ select random women who you believe is relatively better women and impregnate them with your genes and vanish. You can be the ”someguy i met in the bar” when your son /daughter asks who is their father to their mother.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Jim01 wrote:

On the other hand – I think anyone bringing kids into the world now is mad. The West WILL crash and burn within the next 15-20 years thanks to the likes of soros and his puppet politicians so who wants to bring kids into that

I totally agree. I never wanted kids and I’m not sure that I really understand people who do. I would feel guilty for bringing another person into this world. If there aren’t already enough people, I didn’t get the memo.

I was an unwanted child and I had to be put up for adoption. I could never figure out what is so great about this world that would make someone think that it is a good idea to bring another person into it. I’ve never heard of anyone regretting never existing. I think many folks have kids when just getting a dog would have been a better option.

I haven’t read the whole thread yet, so excuse me if it’s already been mentioned, but there’s a movement called “VHEMT”.

http://www.vhemt.org/

The rationality behind it makes sense to me…

[Anonymous 54]

Autolite wrote:

I’ve never heard of anyone regretting never existing.

Very interesting.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

Some basic numbers to consider.

Each time you have a kid, that kid will inherit 23 chromosomes from you.

If your kids have their kids, each grandchild will most likely have inherited anywhere from 6 to 18 of your chromosomes(it could be as high as 23 or no chromosomes at all but those extremes are lottery winning remote).

Even if your grandchildren gave you great-grandchildren, the odds are they will have 0-9 of your chromosomes each and the odds that it will be zero will only increase with every generation after that.

Genghis Khan only managed to leave a 5% genetic legacy by impregnating thousands of women over his lifetime, you having only 1-3 kids will mean that your genes will most likely disappear completely within 6 generations.

So if you want a genetic legacy to last beyond a couple of a hundred years, you better have dozens of kids or more and they need to end up as breeders themselves, otherwise you might as well go childfree and enjoy your time on Earth.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

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