Alimonies for cohabitation – it happens in Italy

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

In Italy there’s at discussion a bill who grants alimonies to the “weaker part” (do you guess who is? 🙂 ) after a cohabitation ends.
No need to sign anything, you have just to move in with a woman.
There are no temporal limits: even a cohabitation of 3-4 months will grants alimonies.
It’s absolutely sure it’ll pass, because the feminist who proposed it is evily smart: it’s part of the bill about civil unions, that is meant for same-sex, so, basically, all medias and all people are just only talking about same-sex civil unions, that pertains just only roughly 3%-4% population while totally forgetting the issue – the “regulation of de facto cohabitations” – that pertains the other 96%-97% of the population.
The only good thing is that “alimonies will be limited to an amount of time proportionated to the actual duration of the cohabitation” (it means that if you live with a woman for 18 months, then you’ll probably have to give her alimonies just “only” for 18 months after the split).

I guess that the effect on the long run will be that even the number of cohabitations will begin to fall, with a rise in both the number of Italian MGTOWs and cats sold by pet shops 🙂

“In front of the man and the woman are two streets: the cruelty and the indifference. Everything suggests that it’ll be the latter, that among them there will be neither explanation nor break, but they will continue to move away from each other” – Emile Cioran, 1952.

Prophetic, isn’t it? 😉

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[UntamedParticipant]

Been waiting for that one. Alimony for cohabs, ha!
Only a deluded Bluepiller retard would opt for cohabitation. As soon as you move in together she has the upper hand, even if you pay for everything. Something happens and you’re in the wrong, always.
Weemins who move in together with a guy already have a long-term scheme to end up lording over “their men” in the long run. If it doesn’t go as planned she can always play the victim and get out scot-free.
Get your own places, Men. Let not even a crumb of bread come from “a feminine touch”.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

“Sry cupcake, i can’t let you stay at my place, i don’t want to pay alimony.”

1 year later
“Female homelessness on the rise and it’s all men’s fault!”

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

This s~~~ is getting out of control.

So, now men can even cohabitate with a woman?

F~~~ women, im going monk!!!

[OldBillParticipant]

One more fugitive slave law which other Western nations will be eagerly copying.

Stay vigilant brothers. It’s going to get real dark real quick.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Called this s~~~ from a mile away.

It’s not just marriage

Yep, men all over the planet have wised up to it all. Women want men to marry them so they get the money, so men don’t fall for it, we tell them to f~~~ off, now here comes the cohabitation bulls~~~. Yep, the government knows it’s bulls~~~, but they do everything to coddle poor women. Pretty soon they’ll get alimony if you even look at them.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

In Australia, if cupcake moves into your house for about 6 months (I’m not sure of the exact required time) she is ENTITLED to a piece of your estate, YIPPEE.

You don’t even have to marry to get f~~~ed over by a c~~~.

Silverstone the Second wrote:

Pretty soon they’ll get alimony if you even look at them.

Because, you know, they’re all so strong and independent.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

hellraider wrote:

This s~~~ is getting out of control.

So, now men can even cohabitate with a woman?

F~~~ women, im going monk!!!

NO. MEN CAN’T COHABITATE ANYMORE WITH WOMEN IN ITALY!
It’s not like in Canada or Australia, it’s not 6 months: even if you move in for 3 months and then split, then you’ll have to pay alimonies to her for other 3 months.

Women are crazy for marriages and men supporting them: IT’S THEIR MAIN GOAL, EVEN IF NOT THEIR ONLY GOAL!
Men are marrying less and lesser? Women lobby to transform cohabitations in marriages!
Always have been so and always will be: it’s their f~~~ing nature, women think we have to pay them for having had the use of their pussy! It’s programmed into their brains, through million years of natural selection! That’s why women are so receptive to “commitment”: because if you don’t commit, it means you’re not willingly to support them!

This is just only a step – I expect they’ll take even more steps in future! When cohabitations will begin to fall, then women will lobby for another way for being financially supported by a man.
Women feels entitled to men’s money, it’s their nature.

My lawyer told me, when I divorced, to avoid every cohabitation, because this was going to happen. My lawyer was a woman and said to me “we are all whores – don’t trust what she will said about the magnificent things you two could do living together” (I actually had two lawyers, both females, and my wife had one, male: psychological trick, there were more females on my side! 🙂 also both my lawyers were specialized in divorces, the lawyer of my wife – selected by me and half-paid by me – was good, but specialized in…car accidents! 🙂 ).
That’s why I’m avoiding cohabitation, and even giving her the keys of my home, with my current partner.
I’m even ready to going monk, but I’m forced to use an halfway: I never approach a woman, I’m so good at self-control that I do not even notice them most times. I do not approach a woman since 16 years, more or less.
But, s~~~, I cannot resist when they hit on me if they’re good-looking: I was renewing the prepaid credit card at the post office when I met my partner, she’s a postal clerk. She did the first move, and even the second move. I was PUA-like once, my old instincts are still here, it’s not like a radio that you can turn off – it’s like…the scene in “Finding Nemo” when the vegetarian shark smells the blood of the fish 🙂 this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWRIR39N8WA
And this is even the lesser problem for me: the main problem is that I have a 11 yo son, and he’s already showing my same instincts, and I have to teach him how to refrain: last time the guy had been at a birthday party, 11 yo girls and boys, other boys played soccer, he stayed with 13 11 yo girls, he proposed to play “spin the bottle”, so he kissed all 13 girls (the rule he invented on-the-fly was: “if according the bottle two girls have to kiss each other, they can choose to kiss each other or, in alternative, kissing me” – obiousvly, it was kiss on the lips….). If he will not learn how to refrain, it’s likely that he’ll be falsely accused before reaching the age of majority.

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[AttonParticipant]

I think we will be seeing more Italian mgtow coming to this forum.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

That’sure: in Italy feminism is quite different from USA. Women do not complain about “eye-rape” and nor even catcalling. The idea that a drunk woman cannot give consent is still quite uncommon. False accusations of rape are quite uncommon. Yesterday a FEMALE judge even discharged a man who touched, multiple times, his female coworkers: boobs, asses and even the vagina – not because he didn’t touched them, because he admitted it, but because according the judge “he’s immature and he was just playing” 😀
In Italy feminism is just only about a thing: GOLD-DIGGING.
Alimonies with cohabitation, false accusations of stalking: we have the world record of accusation of stalking after a couple splits: WHO THE HELL CAN REALLY THINK THAT AFTER A SPLIT MOST MEN WOULD CONTINUE TO PURSUIT HER, EVEN TO THE POINT TO STALK HER? It’s so unrealistic…indeed my lawyer told me that at least 80% accusations of stalking after a separation are FALSE. This is the common weapon Italian women use to extort more money.
My current partner is not a begging single mother: she has no children, she has a job as postal clerk, her car and even her house. The matter is that she’s divorced and she took the house mostly paid by her husband. First red flag. Also, I earn more than her (I also work 9 hours per day, she works 6 hours per day, and I have a degree, she hasn’t), I have two cars, a boat and two houses, and both houses are larger than her house. With such law I would be enforced to give alimonies to her, that’s sure. And having had th experiences of a cohabitation and a marriage I know well how much things change, for bad, after she moves in.

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[LivinitupParticipant 135]

Man that sucks!

I wonder how long it will take for this bulls~~~ to come to Austria….

Best wishes for you my southern brother!

give us liberty, or give us death!

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Thank you.
Sorry, but I bet it’ll come everywhere, because it’s just appeasing women’s inherently exploitative nature. They may have some more problems implementing it in countries where there are already same-sex unions, but as long as most men will be silent no way to stop such things.
The law is under discussion, even now.
NO ONE talks about it includes “regulation of the facto cohabitations” (aka: alimonies after cohabitation ends): all people are focused on the part about same-sex civil unions that pertains no more than 5% population, and no one cares about the part pertaining the other 95% population.
I agree with same-sex civil unions, I even wish to see same-sex marriage: I want to see lesbians quarreling and crying within courts when divorce comes, each one trying to play the victim game.
Civil unions can be signed even by hetero couples and basically are “fair”: you have to register the union, so you have chance to be aware that that means rights (for women) and duties (for men), just like a marriage.
Cohabitations, on the other hand, will just become the ultimate scam for men: no need to sign, no need to register, nothing – just allow her to move in, and you’re done. I bet that through time the “rights” of the poor victims will be further extended.

The most funny thing is: women economical situation is improving, more and more, compared to men. A lot of women will never marry nor cohabiting with poorer men, but some women will do it.
I foresee that marriages and cohabitations numbers will fall, more and more, but within the few surviving marriages/cohabitations the percentage of men theoretically entitled to alimonies will rise.
WHEN THE PERCENTAGE OF MEN POORER THAN THEIR FEMALE PARTNERS, AND BY SO THEORETICALLY ENTITLED TO ALIMONIES, WILL BE SIGNIFICANT, THEN WOMEN WILL BEGIN LOBBYING FOR THE ABOLITION OF ALIMONIES.
After DECADES of tireless whining about “weak people must supported by their partners” and “relationships are about equally sharing all wealth” we’ll finally see the true face of the human female animal, and it’ll be a very educative day 🙂
A similar thing already happened about rape: in 2013 in both Isreal and India gender-neutral rape laws have been reverted to the old “just only people with penises can rape” due pressures by “women’s rights groups”, and even in USA Mary Koss tried to lobby for the same.

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[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

As MGTOW gets stronger, you will see more and more of this s~~~. I’m surprised it hasn’t happened here in the US yet. Pretty soon, you’ll be on the hook for alimony because you were in the same room, car with some dumb c~~~ for longer than an hour.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[AntaresParticipant 208]

Insane cohabitation rules sounds like rental real estate opportunity.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get. -- Ben Graham

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Eric Lauder wrote:

I guess that the effect on the long run will be that even the number of cohabitations will begin to fall,

Yup…most the unwed people I know that cohabitate do it at least partially to save money by splitting bills. Alimony after splitting pretty much means “saving money by splitting bills” becomes a loan you have to pay back if/when you break up.

Eric Lauder wrote:

After DECADES of tireless whining about “weak people must supported by their partners” and “relationships are about equally sharing all wealth” we’ll finally see the true face of the human female animal, and it’ll be a very educative day 🙂

They’ll keep trying to “fix” marriage by passing more and more dumb laws that just push people away from relationships in general. If they want to fix it, its simple, marriage/divorce shouldn’t force you to legally combine/split assets unless you voluntarily put those assets into joint accounts or in both of your names and abolish any form of alimony. Women always say marriage is about love, why can’t we just make it about love and not about finances?

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Never been an issue for me never mind moving in with a woman I rarely lasted a month or two with a woman.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[GrumpyParticipant]

Hell, I wont even allow them to spend the night anymore. Just a matter of time before some douche bag legislates that as “cohabitation”.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Beer wrote:

Eric Lauder wrote:

I guess that the effect on the long run will be that even the number of cohabitations will begin to fall,

Yup…most the unwed people I know that cohabitate do it at least partially to save money by splitting bills. Alimony after splitting pretty much means “saving money by splitting bills” becomes a loan you have to pay back if/when you break up.

Eric Lauder wrote:

After DECADES of tireless whining about “weak people must supported by their partners” and “relationships are about equally sharing all wealth” we’ll finally see the true face of the human female animal, and it’ll be a very educative day

They’ll keep trying to “fix” marriage by passing more and more dumb laws that just push people away from relationships in general. If they want to fix it, its simple, marriage/divorce shouldn’t force you to legally combine/split assets unless you voluntarily put those assets into joint accounts or in both of your names and abolish any form of alimony. Women always say marriage is about love, why can’t we just make it about love and not about finances?

Partially agreed.
I still think that an housewife should be supported after a divorce: she choosed to not work and to keep care of her family, in such case the man have a moral duty towards her.
I just think that a woman who have a full time job should be NEVER supported after a divorce: no matter if she earn less than him. She have her job, she didn’t sacrificed her job for the family.

After such news, my actual partner said we could live together but keeping separated our official domiciles.
“Sorry, honey. I don’t wish to live with you.”
Cold and strong hearts are needed for cold and strong times, as my grandparents were used to say.

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[MichaelSpectator 544]

After reading Eric’s other post I’m thinking he approves of this news. Just look at all those smiley faces

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

AFT wrote:

In Australia, if cupcake moves into your house for about 6 months (I’m not sure of the exact required time) she is ENTITLED to a piece of your estate, YIPPEE.

You don’t even have to marry to get f~~~ed over by a c~~~.

Silverstone II wrote:

Pretty soon they’ll get alimony if you even look at them.

Because, you know, they’re all so strong and independent.

Absolutely true of 6 months. I was telling at mate in the U.K. about this, there it’s 2 years, and his jaw dropped when i said “6 months.”

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